Boogie2988 invited to the Game Awards (famous champion of 'both sides' in regards to white supremacy)

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Saganator

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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
Ah, the ole' "they're only assholes in public" defense.
 

Clusterdreams

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fuck boogie. When has he ever stood up for the people he claims to be an ally for?

All he doesn’t is gaslight LGBT and minorities and tell them they should meet halfway with people who think they’re sub-human
 

LegalEagleMike

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Oct 25, 2017
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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
Probably isnt an irredeemable demon, but until he starts to walk that path of redemption then it is fair game to judge him for his words and his actions, and to expect more from those who prop him up.
 
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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
The dude was giggling while telling people how his ex died of cancer.

Not sure what good points he has, but he has a LOT of bad points.
 

Caz

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I wasn't planning on seeing this anyway but hey, thanks for giving me another reason not to.

Also it gives me an excuse to post this I don't think anyone else has):
 

TemplaerDude

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Gross. I was going to watch this but I guess I'll pass now. Seriously disappointed, Geoff should be ashamed. Boogie is a bad human being.
 

Big One

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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
I don't think there's anyone in this thread saying he's an "irredeemable demon" they're just calling his bullshit out. If you say and do stupid things in a public space you can't expect to not get critique. On top of that he's pretty active at saying something shitty, apologizing for it, and then return back to his status quo which showcases he doesn't really seek to improve nor is he ever truly sorry for anything.
 

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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
both sides of boogie himself? this is meta
 

ArchedThunder

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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
It's almost like Boogie has a long history of saying vile shit.
 

Griffith

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I'm not going to enumerate all of the shitty and stupid things that Boogie has said over time, others have done a far better of that than I ever could, but I would like to point out to those that may sympathize or even appreciate his content that what he says about his centrist stance on issues is not true. Typically when Boogie is discussing a given subject where one perspective is extreme and another isn't, his "center" will be the middle between those two points of view, not where the morally grey part of the argument would be which is where a centrist would typically hold his stand. Boogie's opinion won't ever be neutral or "centrist" because his "centrist" opinion will always be skewed towards the most extreme argument.

That is why I don't respect him. That is why I don't follow his content. That is why I think he should not have a platform to present his heavily skewed "centrist" perspective.

The only thing he does, is look at two dots in a line, pin something in between them and call that a day. His own standing and his own views are meaningless because they are not his own, they are just roughly the middle point of whichever two points of view he happens to look at. His moral compass is a dog turd floating on water.

Where will it land? Wherever the extremist winds blow.

Only one thing is certain, wherever it does land, it will smell.
 
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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
No one is calling him a demon. We're calling him an asshole.
 
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hey sofajockey, i used to hang out on the uBSN, so we've met. i'll assume you're posting in good faith:

boogie farmed out his sister's trauma for clicks, against her express wishes. he then proceeded to wish the man who abused her well. (there's evidence of this in the thread--i don't want to post it again, because it's potentially quite traumatising.)

boogie has expressed sympathies for white supremacists and claimed the holocaust had a silver lining

boogie supported gamergate

boogie laughed about his ex-girlfriend dying from lung cancer

there's a bunch more - just browse the thread - but i think this is probably enough to demonstrate why someone might take issue with boogie being invited to a major gaming event as a 'friend' of the organiser. it's not a matter of simply not liking him.
Just based on these 3 clips :

Holocaust one : hes not wrong. That IS the "silver lining" to the holocaust. Everything about the holocaust was horrid. The way they discovered those practices is horrid. Obviously everyone would want these practices discovered by non-nazi doctors in humane ways, but it is what it is. Ya, you add the "let nazis speak" thing hes doing now and it looks bad. Real bad.

Gamergate: this one, someone please correct me if im wrong, but in 2014 isnt that when it first started? This one is just bad. If he did any research he would've known it was just a witch hunt on zoe.

Third one: idk if he loved his mom, could that could change the whole context. If he loved her it seems like a nervous laugh after saying everyone he loves is dead and nobody else laughing at his gallows humor

I dont follow or watch boogie or any social media personalities but i decided what the hubbub was in here since i did use to watch him at the very start when i wasnt sure if francis was real. (Only saw the mtg vids)
 
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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
Thanks, David.
 

Nere

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As a person who lost his father 2 years ago from lung cancer, I honestly can't watch that video of him making fun his past gf, I closed it half way through. I used to think it was just hyperbole hating this guy, but after this there is no excuse, what a disgusting human being he is. I wouldn't wish cancer on my worst enemy and he is just laughing about his old gf dying from it? How pathetic can you be to do that?
 

Raigan-etc

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Remember guys, your opinions of him are on a minute scale compared to those folk who do like him, that’s why he is at the Game Awards.

Resetera petri dish opinions are that.
 

lacer

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Oct 25, 2017
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lmao at you guys @ing GK like a single one of the 60 posts he's made in a year are about anything than hyping The Gamies. it's a promo account guys
 

Big One

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I'm not going to enumerate all of the shitty and stupid things that Boogie has said over time, others have done a far better of that than I ever could, but I would like to point out to those that may sympathize or even appreciate his content that what he says about his centrist stance on issues is not true. Typically when Boogie is discussing a given subject where one perspective is extreme and another isn't, his "center" will be the middle between those two points of view, not where the morally grey part of the argument would be which is where a centrist would typically hold his stand. Boogie's opinion won't ever be neutral or "centrist" because his "centrist" opinion will always be skewed towards the most extreme argument.

That is why I don't respect him. That is why I don't follow his content. That is why I think he should not have a platform to present his heavily skewed "centrist" perspective.

The only thing he does, is look at two dots in a line, pin something in between them and call that a day. His own standing and his own views are meaningless because they are not his own, they are just roughly the middle point of whichever two points of view he happens to look at. His moral compass is a dog turd floating on water. Where will his it land? Wherever the extremist winds blow. Only one thing is certain, wherever it does land, it will smell.
Yeah this. Labelling him as a centrist is insulting to centrists actually, lol. I'd actually say I'm pretty centrist myself on issues, even though I do have a strong stance on things I'm able to put it in perspective on the issues that stance can lead to.

Some things like Charleston for example isn't one of those issues. It's as clear-cut and dry as it could be but assholes like Boogie and many others always try to use false equivalencies to justify not taking a stance on anything despite issues like that being so abhorrent in the first place. It's the equivalent of trying to find the middle ground between someone murdering a girl for pleasure for me: There is no middle ground.
 

fertygo

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Not sure what this thread supposed to aim. Because y'all damn know Boogie ain't the only nazi attending this show.
 

Mechaplum

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I'm not going to enumerate all of the shitty and stupid things that Boogie has said over time, others have done a far better of that than I ever could, but I would like to point out to those that may sympathize or even appreciate his content that what he says about his centrist stance on issues is not true. Typically when Boogie is discussing a given subject where one perspective is extreme and another isn't, his "center" will be the middle between those two points of view, not where the morally grey part of the argument would be which is where a centrist would typically hold his stand. Boogie's opinion won't ever be neutral or "centrist" because his "centrist" opinion will always be skewed towards the most extreme argument.

That is why I don't respect him. That is why I don't follow his content. That is why I think he should not have a platform to present his heavily skewed "centrist" perspective.

The only thing he does, is look at two dots in a line, pin something in between them and call that a day. His own standing and his own views are meaningless because they are not his own, they are just roughly the middle point of whichever two points of view he happens to look at. His moral compass is a dog turd floating on water. Where will it land? Wherever the extremist winds blow. Only one thing is certain, wherever it does land, it will smell.
Yup he is a spineless turd. I guess people like him because then they don't have to do any sort of critical thinking which probably equates to "picking a side" in their mind.
 

retrocore9

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Remember guys, your opinions of him are on a minute scale compared to those folk who do like him, that’s why he is at the Game Awards.

Resetera petri dish opinions are that.
This sums up his presence at the Game Awards pretty well. The controversy surrounding Boogie has not hit mainstream press. The majority of the gaming public know him from youtube and his daily twitch streams. Believe it or not, Todd Howard's presence at the game awards would be a bigger contraversial impact today than Boogie simply on press alone.
 

Frecklestein

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Maybe Keighley can see what a lot of people can't (or won't): Boogie2988 is not a monster. He is a person who has good points and bad points, just like everyone else. You may not agree with everything he says (and that would be normal) but painting him as some kind of irredeemable demon is pretty extreme. Not surprising, because the Internet, but discouraging nonetheless.
The guy is a fucking Nazi sympathizer. That's PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING AN ACTUAL DEMON. I have good points and bad points too. Like, I think Pizza is great! Good point. I think Dark Souls 2 is the best dark souls game in the series. Bad point. Shitting on women and minorities are more than just a "bad point".

Get some perspective.
 

Orochinagis

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I remember the time when some people said all of his stuff was just and act of his Boogie character, yeah, no.
 

saenima

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This website was made in 2017, dude...
Burner accounts with less than 50 posts that suddenly wake up to defend bigots are a dime a dozen. Every time a thread like this happens it's like cockroach Hanukkah. Always with the same talking points and the same old JAQing and the same 'let me just defend this bigot i never heard of'. They 're not slick or smart. Or creative.
 

Razmos

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Oct 28, 2017
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Remember guys, your opinions of him are on a minute scale compared to those folk who do like him, that’s why he is at the Game Awards.

Resetera petri dish opinions are that.
Sounds more like a "the rest of the gaming community is a pile of shit" problem than anything wrong with the opinions in this thread.

If the gaming community outside of Resetera supports people like this I want nothing to do with it.
 

Noodle

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Aug 22, 2018
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He blocked Shaun for this:



Holocaust one : hes not wrong. That IS the "silver lining" to the holocaust. Everything about the holocaust was horrid. The way they discovered those practices is horrid. Obviously everyone would want these practices discovered by non-nazi doctors in humane ways, but it is what it is. Ya, you add the "let nazis speak" thing hes doing now and it looks bad. Real bad.
Boogie's example of choice for good the Holocaust did was Anne Frank.

 
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