Ok, well take progressive out then (which is a matter of opinion I suppose).
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They might also appreciate the fact that Bernie won't send them to die in pointless wars.
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Your last link is disgusting conspiracy trash that segues from claiming the '16 primary was rigged and invalid, to quoting Cornell friggin West and then to even dismissing the influence of Trump's involvement with Russia as "fear mongering". Your Obama link is not about the the party itself not wanting Sanders specifically, but wealthy donors being fidgety and critical of the entire field, including Biden.
Your lot is intent on stirring the pot, and it baffles the heck out of me.
Would Trump insert himself in the middle of a humanitarian crisis, collect billions of donations intended for the destitute and unfortunate, and have a bulk of that money re-routed to corrupt wealthy elites and foreign contractors in charge of rebuilding the tourism industry?
Would Trump ban a left leaning populist political party from running during a presidential election?
Would Trump further interfere in that election and ask for a first round do-over after a rightwing candidate he backed lost?
After being told no to a do-over, would Trump threaten to cancel the US visas of politicans and the party running up against the rightwing candidate he backed?
After being told no to a do-over, would Trump threaten to suspend humanitarian aid to the country unless his puppet of choice got another shot at winning the election?
After this right-wing puppet wins would Trump allow the puppet to loot his own country of money and minerals on behalf of Western colonial powers, while also turning a blind eye to the puppet's involvement in drug trafficking?
Of course Trump would do all that... and the above is exactly what wolf in sheep's clothing Hillary did to Haiti during her time as Secretary of State. She practiced undemocratic shitty ass colonialism and has the nerve to play victim and complain about outside interference in elections and the subversion of democracy.
Abuela could have used your rule of thumb then. She can please stfu for now.
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Not to me, honestly. If it's true, it'd make perfect sense. A huge point in Bernie's favor that weirdly people don't actually use much is that he's fantastic on veteran's issues. I feel like maybe it's because "great for vets" is all too often a dogwhistle for pro-military in the general discourse, but honestly, it's a strong argument for his electability and people who like Bernie should be proud of it.
Is there any way we can get an idea of which rules can be broken with just a warning and which would get bans? Or do they all just get warnings?
Cool. I actually like the use of warnings first to give people an idea of when theyre going overboard as opposed to a week timeout. Thank you for clarifying.
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It's not going to be every time - sometimes, somebody will just be in clear violation. But we've had a lot of edge cases, spirit-but-not-letter of the rule, etc. That's where the warnings will come in.
As an outsider from the Middle East, honestly Bernie Sanders looks to be the only one set to break the traditional monotony of internal US politics, the continuous cycle of Democrats vs Republicans, Biden seems like a Republican lite.
As for Foreign policy, don't really know where Sanders stand on, especially ME and Iran, but Biden and the Clintons are as much pro Israel as any Republican.
As for Foreign policy, don't really know where Sanders stand on, especially ME and Iran, but Biden and the Clintons are as much pro Israel as any Republican.
This makes it sound like people will be able to more regularly violate the thread rules as long as there is some level of doubt. I don't like the change.
Oh for sure i get that. I think its a good thing since obviously a lot is on the line and tensions are bound to get a bit high, and 99% of us just want Trump out of office when it comes down to it anyway.
Thats isn't what polls mean. By that same logic you could say 73 Percent of the party does not want Joe Biden to be the Nominee.
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Well, if they keep going at it after the warning, that's where the week and then convention ban comes in. We're not going to let people who look like they're deliberately toeing the line slide.
For sure, but that hasn't stopped the fighting in other threads one little bit, lol.
Well there are some topics which despite that fact, are incredibly difficult to navigate even with a unified front in getting rid of Trump.
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Oh, sure. Like, everybody has disagreements on the issues, that's fine. But there's a reason there wasn't a primary OT for a long while. Even when the discussion is just the competition, or when the discussion is centered around Trump, it seems like the people just can't stop going at each other. Thus the somewhat draconian first approach here.
Bernie is one of the most liked candidates. Who people want and who they vote for are not always the same.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I hate having to wade through targeted threads about specific articles as opposed to general primary talk
also him being in this upcoming debate at all does exactly the same thing - takes time away from Biden and gives Sanders/Warren free shots at him
I've been canvassing for Warren for months in Iowa because I've been a fan of hers since I was in high school.
That said, Bernie is my obvious second choice. And if I have to live with Biden I'd be okay with that.
An interesting thing from my last canvass today: There's still quite a few undecideds. I guess it's not terribly surprising if you look at polls, but it's different when you're there and talking to people.
That said, Bernie is my obvious second choice. And if I have to live with Biden I'd be okay with that.
An interesting thing from my last canvass today: There's still quite a few undecideds. I guess it's not terribly surprising if you look at polls, but it's different when you're there and talking to people.
my read of this is that people were violating the rules already but getting away with it because the moderator hesitated to impose a week ban for a relatively minor violation
According to Pete's Chief of Staff, over 400 members of the media have RSVP'd to attend his rally in Des Moines tomorrow.
Pretty crazy
Pretty crazy
It's the day before the first primary/caucus state. That's ~8 people per state, which doesn't seem large in context of needing to send 1-2 people to cover each campaign.
This seems like a major fuckup. Obviously a Pete supporter was polled and noticed it.
The question is if it's from a tired telephone pollster or if there's an error in the script.
Please. If this had happened to Bernie the conspiracies and RIGGED chants would already be trending #1 on Twitter.
CNN isn't exactly the DNC. People already know CNN doesn't want Bernie to win.
Probably, but since there is no way to know how many times Pete was left off, and he is actually a contender of sorts, it would not be reliable.
Shhhhh you're not allowed to mention that it was maybe the failed states and not the Communism that
Cornell West rules tho.
It actually turns out they didn't forget about him it just looked like that after they got the results back and no one was voting for him.
If what they're saying here is true, the entire poll got tanked because one person had trouble pronouncing Buttigieg.
Don't they record these things though? Seems a pretty easy issue to check.
He's Amu Bernie to most Middle Easterners who pay attention, according to my wife. He'd be much better than most Dems on ME issues. He was the only one to unequivocally say Soleimani's assassination was bullshit.
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