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Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
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Whoa I really wasn't expecting this. Though, I had a feeling if the deal did break, it would be because Disney asked for too much.
Honestly, I'm totally fine with this. While I've been happy to have Spider-man in MCU and have adored their version of the character, I'd prefer for Disney to not have another billion dollar franchise under their belt after buying Fox. And while I love the MCU, I prefer the freedom the Spider-man brand gets from not being forced to be part of the MCU like all their other characters. It's how we got the greatest Spider-man movie ever with Into the Spiderverse. Though, I am still concerned about the future quality of the films given how inconsistent Sony can be.
Oh and I'm also one of the weirdos that will stan for Venom.
Honestly, I'm totally fine with this. While I've been happy to have Spider-man in MCU and have adored their version of the character, I'd prefer for Disney to not have another billion dollar franchise under their belt after buying Fox. And while I love the MCU, I prefer the freedom the Spider-man brand gets from not being forced to be part of the MCU like all their other characters. It's how we got the greatest Spider-man movie ever with Into the Spiderverse. Though, I am still concerned about the future quality of the films given how inconsistent Sony can be.
Oh and I'm also one of the weirdos that will stan for Venom.
Let's not act like this entire thread ain't a bunch of people bickering over something none of us have any real context or insight into based mostly on which company they like better. People are shitting on Sony and acting "salty"'just as much as they are with Disney, and in both cases it's probably based on nothing substantial.
I don't know how people are coming to the conclusion that Disney is paying and making the movies and Sony is taking the profit.
I'm pretty sure Tom Holland's version of Spider-Man can only appear in the MCU, if Sony go ahead with this then we will see yet ANOTHER reboot for fucking fuck sakesssss.....
If this shit happened with a definiative fate/ending for Spidey ala Captain America and Iron Man in Endgame, this wouldn't be so bad. But the fact that this happened with such a cliffhanger ending for the character is so fucking infuriating.
Here's hoping this gets resolved ala James Gunn and GOTG 3.
Here's hoping this gets resolved ala James Gunn and GOTG 3.
Venom just made an absurd amount of money. As trash as TASM was it still made tons of money. This is the right play by sony.
The original MCU deal between Disney/Sony was basically:
- Sony gets 95%-100% of box office revenue from Spider-Man films.
- In return, Disney gets almost 100% of the revenue from all licensed merchandise based on the Spider-Man films. (Toys, clothing, etc)
If Disney wants 50% of the film revenue, then Disney should give Sony a larger percentage of revenue from Spider-Man licensed merchandise (toys, clothing, etc).
Marvel Studios is competent though. It'll suck but it'll hurt Sony and Spiderman more
This literally kills his character, that would be too awful if he continues.
i'm just mad because far from home had the best spiderman villain EVER in a spidey live action movie and we'll never see something as great again
They own the film rights to Spider-Man, but the games were always a bit different. I mean, it's why Marvel Games stuck with Activision for so long.
I know right? Disney offered a shitty deal and Sony left. Too bad. But it makes sense.
I'm all for shitting on a corp but how was Disney greedy? The original deal was for Spider-Man: Homecoming, its sequel, Civil War, and the two Avengers. The upcoming MCU slate doesn't have any Avengers movies or films that would make sense for Spidey to cross over in. Disney offering to pay for half the film and for an undisclosed amount of profit makes sense for the amount of leg work they put into the character.
its still under Sony. Might be a different studio, but these entities aren't that far removed from another that they can't learn from the positives others do.
Wooooooow the irony of this in a post ASM2 world is just... wow
I read that too, I guess it's possible that they can resolve the cliffhanger from FFH but will it still be connected to the MCU? Probably not, but the wording is interesting.
So many questions.
So many questions.
Their garbo Venom movie made almost 900M dollars worldwide. The ASM movies both made over 700M. Where exactly is the sense in giving up 50% of Spider-man's gross to Disney? Or any kind of substantial percentage?
Disney just got greedy as fuck.
It was pretty sweet, seeing everything superhero -related in Homecoming and Far From Home revolve around Tony Stark and Tony Stark's legacy, and everything not superhero -related revolve around generic high school drama cliches.
Nobody gives a shit if Disney is "greedy," fans are ultimately the ones who are going to lose when Sony tries to go it alone on a SCU.
Can you tell me how much you think Disney is asking for the gross? Do you really think that a 50/50 split in cost won't make them ask for a similar split in revenue?
Er, yes, because that's Marvel trying to get more control over the Spider-Man license and the profits from it.
Is it really "hilarious"? I mean, are you genuinely sitting at your computer laughing to the brink of madness because fans of Spider-Man are upset that future films will be trash (this is based on Sony's track record with the IP). I'm really trying to see the punchline here. You know, the "hilarious" part.
Because from where I'm sitting, it looks like Sony desperately holding onto an IP that they continue to mismanage time and time again. It's only a matter of time before Spider-Man ends up like Dark Phoenix if it's left exclusively up to Sony.
MCU doesn't need Spider-Man, but I think this current iteration of Spider-Man needs the MCU. With that said, Disney is out of their fucking minds asking for 50% co-financing. The math makes zero sense for Sony to entertain that.
Yes but only one company has a history of making shitty Spiderman films and has tom rothman and avi Arad in charge.
People can shit on Disney, that's fair. But to think that spidey will be better with sony? Nah son
Is Feige's secret sauce really worth nearly $300 million? Because that's how much they're giving up if they took this deal from Disney. Besides, Jon Watts was the director, so he mainly oversaw most of the creative portions of the film anyway. I like Feige, but he's not worth giving up that kind of cash for.
We know they read Neogaf to see reactions to the ASM trailer.
Who knows. I expect the general audience isn't hip to the studio politics, so it'll still make bank, but if there's that quality drop off, I feel like people will smarten up when part 4 rolls around.
At the same time, that Marvel Studios name means everything now. Not having that seal of quality might turn some people off.
Maybe. But it's the wrong play for fans and consumers. Back to shit tastic Spiderman so they can add him to the horrible Venomverse.
I'm selling my PS4
Especially considering that right now Sony is financing 100% of the movies and Disney is still getting 5%.
Yep. I don't believe for a second that Spider-Man is really leaving the MCU.
With Iron Man and Captain America out, Spider-Man is one of the few remaining, big heroes in the MCU.
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