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Fire Emblem: Three Houses |OT2| Greetings, Era! Nothing to Report!
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Nope, at least not tomorrow. Maybe at whatever digital event replaces E3 in June.
Golden Deer House :P
Alright cool so I'm on the right track.I should've mentioned that I chose the Golden Deer House since they looked like the underdogs. I unlocked the feature to have one of the students join me for a month. I was unsure of who to pick but reading this page it seems Fredrick is the way to go?
Also, does each character have a special class that I should focus on getting them into?
Ferdinand is a good choice. He's a good all around physical character and his personal skill makes him good at evading as long as his HP is maxed out. Slap an Evade Ring on him, equip a battalion that gives bonus to evade, stick in on a forest tile and watch the enemy team waste their turn whiffing at him.
There are basically two ways of recruiting someone. Either have Byleth rank up in the skill they're interested in, or get their support rank to B and they will eventually ask to join as time passes on the calendar. It's easier to recruit Ferdinand with the later method, as the skill he's interested in is Heavy Armor, which Byleth is not naturally inclined to study. So bringing him along on missions, eating meals, giving gifts and choir practice will help you get his support level up to B.
You only really need to recruit a few units since most most missions allow for about 9-11 deployments of units. Go for whoever interests you the most rather than trying to recruit everybody on the first go around. Also, some church staff will be recruitable once Byleth hits level requirements.
The only characters who have special classes are the house leaders and Byleth, and those are obtained automatically at story points. The only other special class is the dancer. Later in the game you'll be asked to choose one student to compete in a dance competition and if you win (based on their charm rating) they get the dancer certification. Dancers can be used to allow a unit who has already moved/attacked to move/attack again that turn, and you only get one dancer. If you have a unit that has been underperforming in battle, making them a dancer is a good way to salvage them because they allow your better units to go again.
So generally, everyone can play any class I desire? Or rather, choose the classes that they have skills in? Also, thank you for these tips they have been very helpful. I feel like this is going to be great time sink so I appreciate the help
There's a time skip?? 😮
There are a few classes that are gender-locked (Pegasus Knights and Gremories for female units, Grapplers and Dark Bishops for male, etc) but aside from that you can get any unit into a class if you meet the requirements. It might take longer if you're going against their weaknesses, but you can brute force it. In my Golden Deer run I went with a gimmicky Warlock Hilda build to take advantage that she learns Bolting, a spell with extremely long range. Though I'd save getting too wacky with classes for New Game+, since that gives you better tools for ranking up students faster and taking advantage of skills they previously unlocked.
If we're getting a FE4 remake they won't announce it till later. Next year is the 25th anniv for that one.
Finally came back to this after beating Golden Deer last year. Almost halfway there with Edelgard and gang. It's good to be back and seeing some of the subtle differences in the story thus far does address some issues/points of confusion I had encountered back in my first run.
Lysithea needs to stop blaming me for failing her class exams. It's your bad judgement failing the tests, not mine
Lysithea needs to stop blaming me for failing her class exams. It's your bad judgement failing the tests, not mine
Definitely. There are hardly any anime high school shenanigans for the record. Go into it with an open mind, the academy setting is there for a reason.
No high school shenanigans here, especially not compared to say Persona 5.
So here's my update:
I am enjoying my time so far. I am level 25 at chapter 8. I've been taking my time and soaking in the characters, the world, and the lore. It's been a pleasant surprise hearing the voice acting and recognizing voices after my playthrough of Persona 5 Royal; hearing Haru in Marianne is hilarious.
I was going to follow the suggestions in this thread and go for Ferdinand, but Petra was calling my name. And she is a BEAST. Her, Leonie, and Hilda have been my front line monsters. Beautiful stuff. I've recruited Petra, Catherine, Shamir ❤, Cyril, and Manuela. I'm enjoying Golden Deer a lot.
Question: What should I make Byleath a master in? As of right now, my highest stat has been Sword at a B. He's been pretty OP by himself as he has strength, speed, and respectable defense so I haven't really focused on him. Maybe I should go for Swordmaster and stay there? Some advice would be helpful.
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I'm in the middle of my second playthrough (Golden Deer btw), after beating the game the first time at launch with Black Eagle. I think the first time I played Three Houses in the worst possible way one can imagine, namely:
- I didn't use gambits and battalions. At all;
- I didn't get how classes worked, at first. I didn't promote anyone until later Part 1, thinking the game should have prompted me to;
- Every single month I talked to every single NPC in the Monastery because I'm crazy :)
As a result, I found the game strangely too difficult, to the point I had to lower the difficulty setting from Hard to Normal for the last chapter, and I thought the Monastery was incredibly boring.
Cindered Shadows (which I greatly loved) showed me the power of gambits and this time I'm truly enjoying the gameplay mechanics introduced by Three Houses. I'm also talking only to the handful of NPCs I'm really invested into and as result, the Monastery is a non-issue this time (in fact, I think it helps flashing out the supporting characters, like Shadows of Valentia did with the villages).
However... I think the game is too easy now? I don't know if I feel this way because, well, the first time, I de facto played a Super Hard Mode, or because of the NG+ buffs actually make Hard Mode easier. Outside of the odd paralogue, the game is a cakewalk. I decided not to take extra missions or replay the paralogues already beaten with BE because I already feel too much over-leveled.
- I didn't use gambits and battalions. At all;
- I didn't get how classes worked, at first. I didn't promote anyone until later Part 1, thinking the game should have prompted me to;
- Every single month I talked to every single NPC in the Monastery because I'm crazy :)
As a result, I found the game strangely too difficult, to the point I had to lower the difficulty setting from Hard to Normal for the last chapter, and I thought the Monastery was incredibly boring.
Cindered Shadows (which I greatly loved) showed me the power of gambits and this time I'm truly enjoying the gameplay mechanics introduced by Three Houses. I'm also talking only to the handful of NPCs I'm really invested into and as result, the Monastery is a non-issue this time (in fact, I think it helps flashing out the supporting characters, like Shadows of Valentia did with the villages).
However... I think the game is too easy now? I don't know if I feel this way because, well, the first time, I de facto played a Super Hard Mode, or because of the NG+ buffs actually make Hard Mode easier. Outside of the odd paralogue, the game is a cakewalk. I decided not to take extra missions or replay the paralogues already beaten with BE because I already feel too much over-leveled.
Hard mode should have been named Normal mode. It's only remotely hard on a NG playthrough, and a cakewalk on NG+. I can tank most situations with a properly built mage in NG+ Hard 🤷♀️
Of course it's possible to make some bad decisions (team composition etc) that will end up with Hard mode being actually hard. But anyone at least familiar with SRPGs will likely find Hard mode to be pretty easy, bar maybe the final battle, even if it's not super-duper-easy on a NG playthrough.
Be aware that Maddening is REALLY HARD though. Even with NG+. The game basically has Easy, Normal, and Super Hard modes, with no proper "Hard" mode.
I'm still on my first NG+ Maddening run (Blue Lions) and I can confirm, it's fun though, probably the most fun mode. You really need to use gambits, skills, and abilities efficiently. The early game is tough because of lowered exp gains, beefed up stats on enemies, and scummy skills like Pass and Poison Shot actually being used against you strategically. After a certain point the main missions get a bit easier to deal with, but I've noticed Paralogues are especially difficult even if you're at the recommended level. Try it out though, you can always lower the difficulty!
By the way, I wonder if Hilda and Holst are a reference to Hilda and Horus/Hols from this classic anime. Although the name of the boy is slightly different, both in English and in Japanese (ホルス in Takahata's anime, ホルスト in FE). Probably just a fun coincidence.
Spoiler-y question. I know that Cindered Shadows is set during the school portion of the game but does it take place during any particular chapter therein?
To my (mild) chagrin, my roommate is gonna end up playing Three Houses for the first time before I do my DLC replay, so I want to steer him properly. lol
To my (mild) chagrin, my roommate is gonna end up playing Three Houses for the first time before I do my DLC replay, so I want to steer him properly. lol
It takes place after Chapter 4 chronologically, so pretty early on.
I WAS NOT READY FOR POST TIME SKIP GOLDEN DEER. THE FUCKING HYPE. Why did I take so long to play this game. God damn this is so hype right now.
You playing with quite possibly the best house too. Hope you didn't let anyone die.
Is this thread for FE in general now? Seeing someone mentioning the 30th anniversary... Honestly I'm concerned about a FE4 remake. Kaga would need to return. Which the likelihood of that is... Zero.
I do not have faith in IS to do a remake without messing it up like shadow dragon. Though new mystery of the emblem was pretty good.
I could tell from the beginning but the vibes with Golden Deer seems so much better than the other houses. My first impressions of BL and BE was that they were darker. Golden Deer definitely got my heart. I didn't let anyone die but it was disappointing seeing the teachers look the same. Seems like an oversight.
I'm definitely a fan of these series now. I'll take any remake! (Because I'm not touching a 3DS)
We got another one, fam! Welcome to the fandom. Here's hoping we get a shiny new remake to play real soon, if it happens to be FE4 or 9 you'll be in for a treat as they're generally thought of as some of the best games in the series.
As far as the other houses go, do you think you'll hop straight into a second route? Will be interested to see who you go with after Golden Deer.
Graciously accept me! I'm definitely doing a second route and most likely will choose Blue Lions because post time skip Dimitri looks like a total badass. I really like the design for everyone.
I can't talk smack about any of the 3 lords' routes as they've all been super fun and interesting in their own way. Currently doing BL as my third route and I'm still as invested as ever in the plot.
The moment to moment character interactions here are so good. Like wtf. Hilda is amazingly funny, Lysithea is an asshole, and Bernie- she's so adorable I can't handle it. I really appreciate the work that has gone into this.
Mm, maybe, if you wouldn't enjoy completing that run. Worth noting that NG+ benefits for runs are cumulative.
But 14 hours isn't so long in this game, so if you were going to restart, now would be the time. Hard is more demanding than Normal (which may as well be 'Story mode'). Maddening is far more rigorous than Hard, but I also wouldn't recommend it for a first run; it basically demands full knowledge of the game.
Putting aside how you contradicted your own argument by pointing out how New Mystery, a remake of Book 2 that was done by Intelligent Systems, was an improvement over Shadow Dragon (in part because Book 2 is much better than Book 1), Kaga is not necessary for a remake to be good from a gameplay perspective. If there's anything I worry about, it's how IS will handle things like how few women have any agency in that game given how badly they handled Celica in Shadows of Valentia or the incest which is just...disgusting. The Kaga era had a lot of experimentation when it came to narrative and mechanics but not all of them were particularly successful, and Seisen No Keifu showcases that dynamic quite well.
Also, we have a thread for Fire Emblem.
Honestly, not being able to increase the difficulty mid-game is the biggest flaw of the game. The difficulties aren't very descriptive which catches a lot of players by surprise, but by then they're typically several a hefty ways through a campaign and restarting a meaty strategy game is a lot to ask of players. Would it really screw up things too bad to increase the difficulty mid-campaign? I'd think characters raised on lower difficulties would still be viable, if not better equipped thanks to increase exp gain, so I don't think players would trap themselves by adjusting the difficulty.
I'm pretty sure the inability to increase difficulty is plain old gitguddism. Yup, we're in 2020 (well the game was released in 2019 but whatever), and games are still designed with gatekeeping as a core principle 🤷♀️
It's just a holdover that needs to change. It didn't used to be that big a deal, because the games weren't as lengthy a commitment as Three Houses, and the difficulties matched their naming a little better.
This'd be less an issue if Normal were... a satisfying normal, instead of piss easy. But there's no reason it shouldn't change; not like Fire Emblem is multiplayer or even has achievements.
Well. I agree.
It's just that some developers seem to be hang on ... let's just say a certain idea of "merit" that's honestly bloody annoying when you've been playing video games for 30+ years and just have seen it all, and don't really need a video game to try to remind you that "life is hard" 🤷♀️
Just let us play the goddamn game however we see fit.
Considering how poorly-designed the first few chapters of Maddening are, why would that matter?
The games difficulty changes how much exp you earn. Being able to change the difficulty changes the expected amount of exp you would earn, which is obviously a huge deal in balancing the difficulty of a mode.
The problem with three houses difficultywise is it needed a lunatic difficulty between hard and maddening, not that it didn't let you change really
the only one I'd really consider close to unfair is chapter 2 with the bandits
chapter one is manageable if you go to the left instead of trying to take both houses at once, and chapter three you should have at least a couple of beginner class units by that point as well as catherine mopping up a few enemies for you along the way
honestly i think one of the biggest contributors to how difficult the early chapters of three houses are on maddening is just how weak magic units are before they can promote to monk
also how does maddening compare to say lunatic and lunatic+ in awakening? Three Houses is the first FE I've played on a harder difficulty
It's much closer to lunatic+ than lunatic. The game has no lunatic equivalent.
Thank you! I restarted with the Golden Deer on hard and I already like them more, its a fun set of characters (I played Blue Lions previously). Battles already feel a lot harder so I'm happy with that difficulty.
I really love that everything is fully voiced because that's pretty rare and it really adds to the immersion. Hopefully, choices are going to be a big part of the later chapters.
So I'm really trying to decide between this and the upcoming Switch version of XCOM 2 to fill my tactics RPG void.
+Really loved Awakening a lot, but didn't finish it. Haven't played a FE since
+Like the look and sound of this one a lot
+Seems to have some excellent reviews and a lot of content
- I prefer Sci Fi to fantasy a lot
- I adored XCOM 1, it was one of my favorite games ever made
- It will probably be cheaper and includes all content. FE may go on sale but I think it's only shot would be E3 time.
I don't really know for sure what the consensus for XCOM 2 was but I'm pretty sure people generally thought it was great. Thoughts? I've been interested in 3 houses since launch but still haven't pulled the trigger.
Also how much content is the DLC and how essential is it? I probably should just wait until around E3 time regardless since there may be sales, but I'm tempted to grab it now.
+Really loved Awakening a lot, but didn't finish it. Haven't played a FE since
+Like the look and sound of this one a lot
+Seems to have some excellent reviews and a lot of content
- I prefer Sci Fi to fantasy a lot
- I adored XCOM 1, it was one of my favorite games ever made
- It will probably be cheaper and includes all content. FE may go on sale but I think it's only shot would be E3 time.
I don't really know for sure what the consensus for XCOM 2 was but I'm pretty sure people generally thought it was great. Thoughts? I've been interested in 3 houses since launch but still haven't pulled the trigger.
Also how much content is the DLC and how essential is it? I probably should just wait until around E3 time regardless since there may be sales, but I'm tempted to grab it now.
Well, this is an FE thread so... play FE! :P
The fantasy setting does some interesting things with its lore. It isn't just a typical medieval world. And especially compared to the lacklustre world of Awakening, this one has a lot of backstory and details to get immersed in. The characters and story are also phenomenal.
The DLC isn't really necessary, it's only worth it for the bonus side story which adds a bit to the lore (but is ultimately not canon) as well as 4 new characters and classes (of which, imo, only two are particularly useful). None of it is required and the game is huge and a complete experience even without the DLC. You can and should play through one of the four routes without it, get a feel for the game, and then decide whether you want the bonus content or not.
Got it. So it sounds like if I loved Awakening, I'd probably like this one even more. And good to hear I can consider the season pass at my leisure really.
So it sounds like I will get the game. But now I just have to decide if I'm gonna wait for a sale or not. I feel like one's gotta be coming up soon at E3 time since it's never been on sale before. Hmmmm...
The game lacks a proper Hard Mode, and ideally with NG+ we should be able to unlock custom difficulty settings, such as XP modifiers, enemy level modifiers, monetary gain modifiers, etc.
Also someone starting on Normal and finding the game too easy should totally be able to at least raise it on Hard. I agree that such options make discussing difficulty pretty tricky, but then again maybe difficulty shouldn't be balanced with stuff like XP nerfs but more with enemy numbers, skills, and stat adjustments.
I know its off topic but Time Skip Edelgard is the first legend hero unit from Three Houses
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It just shows IS has a mixed bag. Well I personally am not a fan of Gaiden. Regardless of NES or 3DS. Geneology however tells one hell of a story. A story that shouldn't get redacted.
Incest is disgusting? On a dark age/medieval story? Man, you must hate opening up history books huh. Can't help but laugh reading this part.
A lot of experimentation that is still in use today. IS owes plenty to Kaga. If there is a game IS can be proud of that can match up to kaga emblem, tellius comes into mind...
I'm not sure you're aware of this but Fire Emblem is not history; Intelligent Systems chose to use it as a plot point when they could have used just about any other method to showcase how evil the villains were. Just because they included something that happened in the real world doesn't somehow justify its inclusion nor is it a defense for the execution of said inclusion, especially when it's intertwined with Deirdre's lack of agency within the story.
P.S. Attributing all of Fire Emblem: Seisen No Keifu's qualities, positive or otherwise, to Kaga alone does a disservice to the many other people who worked on that game, be it Gunpei Yokoi, Tohru Narihiro or other staff members of Intelligent Systems, former or current. If you'd like to discuss this further, we can do so in the appropriate thread because i'd prefer not to derail this any further than to say that Three Houses always gave me the impression that they were going to remake Seisen No Keifu shortly afterwards, be it once the DLC was wrapped up or working on the two at the same time.
Finished my 2nd playthrough. Verdant Wind was a lot more satisfying than Crimson Flower - questions from the 1st part got answered, the true villains were defeated, the whole world was flashed out a lot more and the 2nd part had a clear sense of advancement one chapter after another (we first conquer the bridge, then the fortress, etc., whereas I found the structure of Edelgard's campaign a bit random). Cindered Shadow characters and classes also didn't feel out of place and I really hope that the Trickster and the Dark Flier will return in future entries.
Claude is definitely one of the better Lords the series has ever offered. Lots of games have taken a page out Nietzsche's theory of Übermensch, but usually portraying it as a social-darwinist Super-man. Claude is closer to Nietzsche's original meaning - a nihilist who accepted everything is relative and the world is about nothing, and therefore pragmatically build a better world, of which only mankind is in charge, without made-up values.
Still, the biggest issues from CF are still there. The Monastery destroys the pacing, especially during the 2nd part, and the amount of recycled content really does a disservice to the game as a whole. Three Houses is a game with the hearth in the right place but too ambitious (ironically, I think one can make the same criticism to Seisen no Keifu and Radiant Dawn). And they really need to find a good compromise between Hard-but-really-easy-until-the-final-chapters and Maddening-same-return-reinfocements-and-inflated-stats.
I'll wait a few months to play Dimitri's route (indeed not playing VW right after CF was a good idea). I'm thinking about playing Thracia 776 right now.
Claude is definitely one of the better Lords the series has ever offered. Lots of games have taken a page out Nietzsche's theory of Übermensch, but usually portraying it as a social-darwinist Super-man. Claude is closer to Nietzsche's original meaning - a nihilist who accepted everything is relative and the world is about nothing, and therefore pragmatically build a better world, of which only mankind is in charge, without made-up values.
Still, the biggest issues from CF are still there. The Monastery destroys the pacing, especially during the 2nd part, and the amount of recycled content really does a disservice to the game as a whole. Three Houses is a game with the hearth in the right place but too ambitious (ironically, I think one can make the same criticism to Seisen no Keifu and Radiant Dawn). And they really need to find a good compromise between Hard-but-really-easy-until-the-final-chapters and Maddening-same-return-reinfocements-and-inflated-stats.
I'll wait a few months to play Dimitri's route (indeed not playing VW right after CF was a good idea). I'm thinking about playing Thracia 776 right now.