No, I'm laughing at your setting up "rules" here. Was that something you were going to apply to everyone or...?So you have no opinion on whether Warren's campaign might lie?
No, I'm laughing at your setting up "rules" here. Was that something you were going to apply to everyone or...?So you have no opinion on whether Warren's campaign might lie?
Elizabeth Warren allowed Harvard to call her the 350-year-old school's first Native American faculty member.
mod edit: we don't allow content from this personNo, I'm laughing at your setting up "rules" here. Was that something you were going to apply to everyone or...?
Do you believe the Sanders campaign is capable of lying? Why or why not?Elizabeth Warren allowed Harvard to call her the 350-year-old school's first Native American faculty member.
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The Sanders campaign has denied these claims. Who do you believe? Why?
Elizabeth Warren allowed Harvard to call her the 350-year-old school's first Native American faculty member.
Of course obviously. Why? They're running a political campaign.Do you believe the Sanders campaign is capable of lying? Why or why not?
So are you saying Warren is lying?Of course obviously. Why? They're running a political campaign.
Now answer the question about Project Veritas.Do you believe the Sanders campaign is capable of lying? Why or why not?
No. I am not. I have no idea who is telling the truth.
I mean drawing a parallel between Veritas and Warren seems kinda...
Except I'm not. I'm wondering if Mercury Fred literally thinks Sanders always lies or if they modulate their concept of Sanders' truthfulness based on who is making the claim.I mean drawing a parallel between Veritas and Warren seems kinda...
Sanders and his campaign have a pattern of dishonesty, half truths, etc. I also watched Warren's body language tonight when Sanders said he didn't say it. I feel confident in deducing that he lied. Of course it's possible I'm wrong, but it certainly tracks with his history.
So, is the campaign lying about Project Veritas? Does Sanders want to watch Milwaukee burn?Sanders and his campaign have a pattern of dishonesty, half truths, etc. I also watched Warren's body language tonight when Sanders said he didn't say it. I feel confident in deducing that he lied. Of course it's possible I'm wrong, but it certainly tracks with his history.
You want me to engage you around a video from a right wing propaganda outfit? Lol noSo, is the campaign lying about Project Veritas? Does Sanders want to watch Milwaukee burn?
I want you to just be honest here. Do you EVER believe Bernie Sanders? If no, don't you find that kind of odd?You want me to engage you around a video from a right wing propaganda outfit? Lol no
Huh? Really weird and hyperbolic framing. Between this and trying to use right wing propaganda videos to make your point... Not going to bite on this, sorry. Have a nice night!I want you to just be honest here. Do you EVER believe Bernie Sanders? If no, don't you find that kind of odd?
It's helpful to call right wing propaganda videos made-up bullshit. It's really easy to do. I can do it a dozen times a day. Veritas is full of shit, they're clearly ratfucking Sanders.Huh? Really weird and hyperbolic framing. Between this and trying to use right wing propaganda videos to make your point... Not going to bite on this, sorry. Have a nice night!
WUHHHHH HE'S DENYING IT!?!?!?! BUT JUST YESTERDAY HE ALSO DENIED IT!?!Yes, Warren looks crazy, when her body language when Bernie denied it on stage told you all you need to know about who's telling the truth.
You gave clicks to Project Veritas apparently in order to set up a literal strawman. Like I said, I'm not playing that game. G'night for real this time :)It's helpful to call right wing propaganda videos made-up bullshit. It's really easy to do. I can do it a dozen times a day. Veritas is full of shit, they're clearly ratfucking Sanders.
This wasn't meant to be a big gotcha, it's honestly bizarre you can't just say it. It's easy. Veritas is peddling bullshit about Sanders.
It's not a straw man.You gave clicks to Project Veritas apparently in order to set up a literal strawman. Like I said, I'm not playing that game. G'night for real this time :)
Era allows Washington Times links. A number of these links popped up in PoliEra earlier today which is where I heard about it.
At first glance I was like "hang on a sec where's Bernie-... ohhhhh"
Era allows Washington Times links. A number of these links popped up in PoliEra earlier today which is where I heard about it.
At first glance I was like "hang on a sec where's Bernie-... ohhhhh"
I have never been to the Project Veritas site.Washington times didnt have a reporter convicted of making up lies about planned parenthood. Wtf are you doing on that site bro
Because she honestly thought that was her heritage, she wasn't being a con artist.
I agree that she wasn't trying to con anyone but
"No, as I said, these are my family stories. I have lived in a family that has talked about Native Americans, talked about tribes since I had been a little girl," she said. "I still have a picture on my mantel and it is a picture my mother had before that - a picture of my grandfather. And my Aunt Bea has walked by that picture at least a 1,000 times remarked that he - her father, my Papaw -- had high cheek bones like all of the Indians do. Because that is how she saw it and your mother got those same great cheek bones and I didn't. She that thought was the bad deal she had gotten in life."
I don't see how you can just sweep this under the rug.
what you're trying to do here is gross and completely obviousWashington times didnt have a reporter convicted of making up lies about planned parenthood. Wtf are you doing on that site bro
What's the point, though?It's helpful to call right wing propaganda videos made-up bullshit. It's really easy to do. I can do it a dozen times a day. Veritas is full of shit, they're clearly ratfucking Sanders.
This wasn't meant to be a big gotcha, it's honestly bizarre you can't just say it. It's easy. Veritas is peddling bullshit about Sanders.
I want you to just be honest here. Do you EVER believe Bernie Sanders? If no, don't you find that kind of odd?
I don't even see how I'm putting you on the spot. It should be pretty easy to say "Veritas is full of shit and Sanders is right to deny this tripe".
Huh? Really weird and hyperbolic framing. Between this and trying to use right wing propaganda videos to make your point... Not going to bite on this, sorry. Have a nice night!
Well hopefully most people vote based on policies not personalitySander's fan boys are drumming up the same tunes from 2016. Makes it harder to back him over even someone like Biden. Just way too rabid online. People will make decisions based on stuff like that, I don't know if it's enough to make a dent electorally but it might be.
I really felt that John Legend tweet.
It's both fascinating and depressing to see how people are driven to take the predictable angle on every single issue w/r/t Bernie. The same characters in every thread taking their place with so much confidence, loaded language and characterizing villains; everything gets filtered through our biases, consciously or not. People will assign gravity or triviality depending on how it affects their candidate or villain of choice. I'm not saying I'm immune from this, to be clear. I feel like I've gotten sucked in lately.
I wonder if the 2020 primary season will be worse than the 2016 one because these divisions and habits seem to be particularly informed by 2016. Everything is so tedious, rooted and unchanging, like ethnic or religious groups that have been at war for centuries.
That's a BS catch all response, also AOC while being an energetic liberal lightening rod she is human, i.e. not always right or perfect. Tied of people holding her up as the standard bearer for democracy, let her do the job for a couple more years at least.
Honestly between The Fight™, Pete's general ickyness, and the shit Trump has been doing, Biden is looking like the unity candidate he's always claimed to be.
Also in the general, even the most die-hard conspiracy theorists probably would admit he's unlikely to secretly assassinate his own ambassador, which I don't think is something you could have said for Clinton unfortunately.
I'm saying that conspiracy theorists would definitely believe that she would, and a lot of independents probably wouldn't bat an eye. She already had Benghazi at that point as baggage.Are you insinuating that Hillary WOULD have secretly assassinated her own ambassador?
I would say this topic has gone off the rails, but where we're at currently there are no rails for miles.
Any other way to watch it?CNN continues to be the worst by not providing the debate on YouTube.
I guess Pete did good according to them.