Because it justifies and glorifies the ideology of white, sexually unsuccessful men who already commit mass violence on the regular?
Depiction is not justification.
Because it justifies and glorifies the ideology of white, sexually unsuccessful men who already commit mass violence on the regular?
From the spoilers I've seen? Yeah that pretty much seems to be the case. Will most people take it that way? Probably not. But will the 10% already predisposed to take it that way? Yeah, probably.So your take away from this movie you haven't seen is that the joker is portrayed as the good guy and isn't challenged? The joker killing people and snapping is totally justified within the context of the movie?
I'm not saying ban anything I'm saying don't be surprised when there's a further uptick of racial and sexual violence after release.how Does a 50 year old universally beloved evil comic book character doing evil sadistic things justify and glorify white unsuccessful men Who commit violence. Should we ban fight club next from screenings ?
Watching this turn towards pro-censorship take place in real time is some wild shit.I can't wait till this thing comes out and it doesn't turn out to be the Manchurian Candidate-esque trigger that activates all the incels to riot and murder like you guys assume it will. This is one of the most regressive arguments I've ever seen from such a place of established progressiveness that it's just depressing to see happen.
What in the world are you talking about?Well we generally agree that right wing talk radio, Fox News, and Trump are bad? Right? So why should this movie be exempt.
From the spoilers I've seen? Yeah that pretty much seems to be the case. Will most people take it that way? Probably not. But will the 10% already predisposed to take it that way? Yeah, probably.
I'm not saying ban anything I'm saying don't be surprised when there's a further uptick of racial and sexual violence after release.
Well we generally agree that right wing talk radio, Fox News, and Trump are bad? Right? So why should this movie be exempt.
Watching this turn towards pro-censorship take place in real time is some wild shit.
Well we generally agree that right wing talk radio, Fox News, and Trump are bad? Right? So why should this movie be exempt.
To a reasonable person, no. The alt-right/incels are not reasonable.
I couldn't help myself but watch this, the violence in this movie feels very real and intense. It's not glorified at all which I appreciate.
October can't come soon enough.
Considering how fucked the US has become, i'm pretty sure this movie will be fuel for some terrorist fucks to organize shootings. This is exactly the kind of character they identify with, and the glorified violence here will probably be seen as heroic and totally misinterpreted. Just pay attention to that script.
What in the fuckFrom the spoilers I've seen? Yeah that pretty much seems to be the case. Will most people take it that way? Probably not. But will the 10% already predisposed to take it that way? Yeah, probably.
I'm not saying ban anything I'm saying don't be surprised when there's a further uptick of racial and sexual violence after release.
So what's the craziest thing you saw this week, echo
Well, I saw someone with an anarchy avatar demanding censorship of a comic book movie
that band member deserves a raise3rd one is out, not sure if posted: https://55chan.org/b/src/1568066222552.mp4
Good luck, GTA VI.Right after the latest round of "blame violent video games for real life violence" too.
What in the fuck
You think this movie is going to lead to a genuine increase in crime? Rapes, murders, poc getting targeted for attacks because this movie releases?
I don't even know how to respond to this. At a loss for words.
Holy fuck, get that Oscar ready.3rd one is out, not sure if posted: https://55chan.org/b/src/1568066222552.mp4
3rd one is out, not sure if posted: https://55chan.org/b/src/1568066222552.mp4
So what's the craziest thing you saw this week, echo
Well, I saw someone with an anarchy avatar demanding censorship of a comic book movie
Because it justifies and glorifies the ideology of white, sexually unsuccessful men who already commit mass violence on the regular?
I'm not saying ban anything I'm saying don't be surprised when there's a further uptick of racial and sexual violence after release.
LMAOSo what's the craziest thing you saw this week, echo
Well, I saw someone with an anarchy avatar demanding censorship of a comic book movie
3rd one is out, not sure if posted: https://55chan.org/b/src/1568066222552.mp4
That trombone player really needs to learn how to read the room3rd one is out, not sure if posted: https://55chan.org/b/src/1568066222552.mp4
Media can effect people sure, but crime statistics increasing after this movie comes out and maybe because this movie releases? A genuine uptick in violent crimes?You seriously in your heart of hearts believe that media has no effect on those that consume it?
Oh fuck you. I'm not even calling for censorship. The movie has a message encouraging violence for people looking for that message. Dismissal of this is the definition of putting your head in the sand.
The film clearly isn't endorsing the Joker's actions (at least in these clips), but it's easy to see how it could be read as a power fantasy when viewed through a particular lens imo.First off going by those clips and the script the movie doesn't justify or glorify anything Joker does. Second depiction is not an endorsement if even that's how things did go down.
"scrap that script and instead make it about a man who turns into a catso what solution do you suggest as a studio head if a writer has this idea
how is this glorification lmao
he's portrayed as an evil, murderous psycho with ominous music
The film clearly isn't endorsing the Joker's actions (at least in these clips), but it's easy to see how it could be read as a power fantasy when viewed through a particular lens imo.
so what solution do you suggest as a studio head if a writer has this idea
Whatever, I'm out. Id
Make it more clear that Joker is a bad guy? Have him get brutally killed at the end?
Look im about to go into a bar without cell service. If y'all don't think that some people are going to come away from this movie more sympathetic to Joker's incel worldview you're deluded. Anyway I'm out. Enjoy your spin off movie.
To a reasonable person, no. The alt-right/incels are not reasonable.
Thai thread is super hilarious when you remember liberal reactions to American Sniper. Y'all ready to overlook any problematic shit cuz it's based on a comic book character.
Whatever, I'm out. Id
Make it more clear that Joker is a bad guy? Have him get brutally killed at the end?
Look im about to go into a bar without cell service. If y'all don't think that some people are going to come away from this movie more sympathetic to Joker's incel worldview you're deluded. Anyway I'm out. Enjoy your spin off movie.
3rd one is out, not sure if posted: https://55chan.org/b/src/1568066222552.mp4