Fuck off75%? Really? You sound really confident in a non-existent invasion happening that will only happen due to western agitation.
Fuck off75%? Really? You sound really confident in a non-existent invasion happening that will only happen due to western agitation.
I was reading on Ukraine economically. Didn't know they were struggling so much. Defintiely easy target.
Why is Russia so obsessed with it?
I'd love to hear how the west is agitating this. keep in mind Russia, the United States, the United Kingdom and Ukraine all signed agreements to defend/honor Ukraine's sovereignty in exchange for them giving up their nuclear arsenal. Of the countries that are party to this agreement, only one of them has invaded and annexed territory from Ukraine.75%? Really? You sound really confident in a non-existent invasion happening that will only happen due to western agitation.
It would cost him more to abandon everything instead of doubling down. Especially since Navalny is still alive.I'm starting to think that Russia will abort this operation. The window for invasion is getting tight and the sanctions and operational costs will obliterate their economy.
The US isn't going to war with Russia. Ukraine isn't in NATO.
I really, really, really strongly oppose the US going to war with Russia.
I really, really, really strongly oppose the US going to war with Russia.
Western agitation? What kind of fucking gaslighting are we normalizing here?
Yes, NATO's eastern flank. What's so confusing about that statement?
Eastern European NATO nations.
I'm starting to think that Russia will abort this operation. The window for invasion is getting tight and the sanctions and operational costs will obliterate their economy.
You seem to massively misunderstand the situation.I don't know, we got people calling others russian bots in here for not lining up for another US proxy war.
Some of ya'll literally never learn.
The problem is, even if Putin wanted to abort how would he without losing face in front of the entire Russian population? There's 1 thing every dictator in history has needed to stay in power: showing strength against enemies, both real enemies and imaginary enemies like NATO in this case. If Putin doesn't invade and NATO makes no major concessions Putin looks like a huge weakling in front of the entire Russian population and that might very well be worse for him than a complete economic collapse might be.I'm starting to think that Russia will abort this operation. The window for invasion is getting tight and the sanctions and operational costs will obliterate their economy.
Ah yeah, US supporting a sovereign country which wants to protect itself against foreign aggression = proxy war.I don't know, we got people calling others russian bots in here for not lining up for another US proxy war.
Some of ya'll literally never learn.
Yeah NATO should just look the other way as Russia bullies and steamrolls its weaker neighbors.I don't know, we got people calling others russian bots in here for not lining up for another US proxy war.
Some of ya'll literally never learn.
Yes, NATO's eastern flank. What's so confusing about that statement?
Eastern European NATO nations.
She was using the same language the reporter used when asking the question.
You mean the proxy war russia started 8 years ago or was that fine in your opinion?I don't know, we got people calling others russian bots in here for not lining up for another US proxy war.
Some of ya'll literally never learn.
Please stop replying to this guy. He's a troll trying to derail the discussion, nothing more.75%? Really? You sound really confident in a non-existent invasion happening that will only happen due to western agitation.
Sure, it's not for gaz, oil and uranium.An attempt to retake part of the empire that was lost after the break up of the Soviet Union, or at least force it back into the Russian sphere of influence.
What proxy war? This doesn't make any sense.I don't know, we got people calling others russian bots in here for not lining up for another US proxy war.
Some of ya'll literally never learn.
I was reading on Ukraine economically. Didn't know they were struggling so much. Defintiely easy target.
Why is Russia so obsessed with it?
I really, really, really strongly oppose the US going to war with Russia.
fair point. Has anyone actually seen or heard from Putin recently?
Yep. If the pot of shit eventually blows up, he doesn't want his face anywhere near it.Putin is silent about Ukraine because he's not sure about the final output of all of this. If something goes wrong (for Russia), he wants to stay away from it. That's why he's distancing.
It also shows how really weak Putin is, as a person and leader. Strong leaders don't afraid admit mistakes.
I really, really, really strongly oppose the US going to war with Russia.
Putin is silent about Ukraine because he's not sure about the final output of all of this. If something goes wrong (for Russia), he wants to stay away from it. That's why he's distancing.
It also shows how really weak Putin is, as a person and leader. Strong leaders don't afraid admit mistakes.
Neo-Imperialism.I was reading on Ukraine economically. Didn't know they were struggling so much. Defintiely easy target.
Why is Russia so obsessed with it?
How can the president of Russia distance himself from a war his own country started? Gonna be pretty hard to blame it on a rogue military.Putin is silent about Ukraine because he's not sure about the final output of all of this. If something goes wrong (for Russia), he wants to stay away from it. That's why he's distancing.
It also shows how really weak Putin is, as a person and leader. Strong leaders don't afraid admit mistakes.
I gotta say i'm positively surprised by the biden admin handling of this. They were a bit slow at the start but it seems we're quickly approaching a point where a invasion will not only be economically disastrous for russia but also could become very costly militarily.
President Vladimir Putin has insisted during the crisis over Ukraine that Nato should stop its encroachment towards Russia's borders. But his demand is having unintended consequences in Europe's far north, reviving talk of whether Finland and Sweden should join the military alliance. As the world's attention focuses on the Russian troops massing on Ukraine's border, leaders from across the political spectrum in both Nordic countries have stressed that they have the option to apply for membership at any time.
"The debate is vivid and unprecedented. A lot is going on. A lot depends on what happens next," said Henri Vanhanen, foreign policy and EU adviser to the centre-right National Coalition party, Finland's main opposition group and a proponent of Nato membership. Swedish and Finnish foreign ministers met Nato secretary-general Jens Stoltenberg in Brussels on Monday, the latest in a series of diplomatic conversations that have included Finnish president Sauli Niinisto speaking to both his US and Russian counterparts in recent days. "Nato's door remains open . . . Sweden and Finland are our closest partners," Stoltenberg said after the meeting. Pekka Haavisto, Finland's foreign minister, said: "Finland is not a member of Nato, but maintaining the national room to manoeuvre and freedom of choice are also integral parts of Finland's foreign, security and defence policy." Both Nordic countries, which gave up their traditional neutrality because of their membership of the EU and its mutual defence clause, have grown closer to Nato in recent years, allowing its troops to cross their territory in times of crisis or during exercises. Russia has threatened a sharp response should Nato expand further by including the two countries around the Baltic Sea. The foreign ministry in Moscow said in December that Sweden and Finland joining Nato "would have serious military and political consequences that would require an adequate response from the Russian side".
For Putin - easily. He's even distancing from the issues that's happening within Russia, like recent story about Kadyrov that happened last week.How can the president of Russia distance himself from a war his own country started? Gonna be pretty hard to blame it on a rogue military.
Thankfully mods aren't putting up with that anymore. How anyone with a bit of sense can look at Russia massing troops on the borders of Ukraine (in two separate countries nonetheless) and think "gee, it's too bad that Biden made them do that, derp derp derp" is beyond me. This site is better off without those posters altogether, IMO.
Oh? What new shitfuckery did Kadyrov Jr. pull last week?
I think the movement in Belarus looking like the invasion will be a whole takeover of Ukraine has upped the urgency. This is no longer a limited incursion by Russia.I gotta say i'm positively surprised by the biden admin handling of this. They were a bit slow at the start but it seems we're quickly approaching a point where a invasion will not only be economically disastrous for russia but also could become very costly militarily.
We still need to strongly boost ukranian anti air and anti missile capabilities from my understanding but outside of giving them stingers or patriots.
Well, for starters, Russian population doesn't really want a war? Putin also never really stated that he is planning to invade Ukraine. They call it a military exercise, there was never a promise of an invasion. So I don't think losing face is a very big concern… Though Putin will probably still want at least some concessions (not MAJOR concessions, as you said) from NATO before he considers a de-escalation. Otherwise, yes, it would look like all this crisis only led to increased presence of NATO in Eastern Europe, and Russia got nothing out of it (didn't respond in any way).The problem is, even if Putin wanted to abort how would he without losing face in front of the entire Russian population?
This is a videogame forum so I guess it makes sense that if Ukraine wants to be worth our protection they should have been building Playstation 5s.I think that China is likely a more rational actor than Russia at the moment, so deterrence may be more likely to work against a Xi led China than a Putin led Russia. China also has a lot more to lose in terms of going to war than Russia does as things are mostly going fairly well for China in terms of its economy and growing international prominence. Taiwan is the major player in semiconductors so having it lost to China would be a massive economic blow to everyone outside of China's favor. Does that mean that the US/EU and NATO should roll out the red carpet for Russia? No, not at all. I just don't think you're going to see open war between them and Russia over the Ukraine.
Kidnapping people (families of human rights activists, as far as I understand).
Taiwan is a major player in the semiconductor field, sure, but most of the companies have started looking at building fabs outside the region and China itself is investing into catching up, so if in 10 years if Intel's got a fab in the US, TSMC has a fab in Europe, Samsung already has one in Texas, and China's homegrown companies are caught up would Taiwan now be expendable?
Ah, so Ramzan being a disgusting waste of oxygen, as usual.Kidnapping people (families of human rights activists, as far as I understand).
Kremlin said they don't believe in these "fantastic (as in, imaginary) stories".
Then Kadyrov just doubled down and said that he considers the kidnapped families to be terrorists and they will either end up in prison, or be destroyed. 🤷♂️
Putin is an opportunist. He will extend as far as the bungee cord allows before snapping.I think the movement in Belarus looking like the invasion will be a whole takeover of Ukraine has upped the urgency. This is no longer a limited incursion by Russia.