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zroid

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Do you think consumers will really accept Monster Hunter Rise though? Isn't it like releasing Super Mario 64 after Super Mario Sunshine? Who would want that?

/obvious bad satirical attempt at concern trolling
 

Zen Hero

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13 Sentinels seems like it would be a good fit for the Switch audience but still I don't think anything would boost the game to mass popularity. It's just not that kind of game. Hopefully it did well enough so Vanillaware can keep making the games they want to make, I think that's the best we can hope for.
 
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13 Sentinels seems like it would be a good fit for the Switch audience but still I don't think anything would boost the game to mass popularity. It's just not that kind of game. Hopefully it did well enough so Vanillaware can keep making the games they want to make, I think that's the best we can hope for.
If all the small and medium Japanese games skipped Switch and released only on PS4 we would still be reading that Switch would do nothing to increase sales when it wasn't possible on PS4. When there's a limit on what you can sell you don't limit it even more.
 
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I'm looking forward to everyone in this thread putting out their monster hunter forecast for the switch.

I think this is going to move a lot of hardware as well.
 
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I'm looking forward to everyone in this thread putting out their monster hunter forecast for the switch.

I think this is going to move a lot of hardware as well.
Im the worst with predictions, but here is mine.

Monster Hunter Freedom 3 sold 2.146.467 first week on PSP. (by GDL)
My forecast is: Monster Hunter Rise will also have a First Week over 2M. and will end up with a 3X FW multiplier. : 6M+ LTD
The Switch will sell 225k that week.
 

ILikeFeet

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yall just reminded me that Resonance of Fate isn't on switch. Sega strikes again. or was that all on Tri-Ace?
 

Mpl90

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Do I really need to unleash my Paddling of Punishment on several people? Inaff with the intentionally bad predictions before I bonk each and everyone of you.
 

Oregano

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Do I really need to unleash my Paddling of Punishment on several people? Inaff with the intentionally bad predictions before I bonk each and everyone of you.

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Demon's Souls is the highest PS5 game on Comg Chart. Ranked at 10 with 12 pts. Miles is 13th with 10pts. Black Ops Cold War and Valhalla at 19th and 20th with 6 and 5pts.

Gonna be a very rough launch.
 
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Chris1964

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Previous openings at comg

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - 192pts
Marvel's Spider-Man - 164pts
Assassin's Creed: Odyssey - 77pts
 
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Lelouch0612

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COMG! preorders chart, Week 46 2020:
Each point represents one preorder at this retailer. It is a relatively small retailer located in one region so be careful when you extrapolate, especially regarding Otaku games (overrepresented) and family games (underrepresented).

1. Momotaro Dentetsu - 104 pts (+18 pts)
2. Monster Hunter Rise - 72 pts (+7 pts)
3. Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity - 56 pts (+15 pts)
4. Atelier Ryza 2 (PS4) - 29 pts (-1 pt)
5. Atelier Ryza 2 (NSW) - 27 pts (+0 pt)
6. Atelier Ryza 2 Collector's Edition (NSW) - 15 pts (+0 pt)
7. Cyberpunk 2077 – 14 pts (+1 pt)
8. Derby Stallion - 12 pts (+4 pts)
9. Monster Hunter Rise Double Pack - 11 pts (+2 pts)
10. Zoid Wild: Infinity Blast Collector's Edition - 7 pts (+0 pt)
11. Atelier Ryza 2 Collector's Edition (PS4) - 7 pts (+2 pts)
12. Aleste Collection Collector's Edition (PS4) - 6 pts (+0 pt)
13. Nier Replicant sqrt(1.5) - 6 pts (RE)
14. Aleste Collection Collector's Edition (NSW) - 5 pts (+0 pt)
15. Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury - 5 pts (+0 pt)
16. Dragon Quest XI S (PS4) - 5 pts (RE)
17. Story of Season Ranch of Olive Town - 4 pts (NEW)
18. Densha de Go!! Hashirou Yamanote Line (PS4) - 4 pts (NEW)
19. RIDE 4 - 4 pts (NEW)
20. Rune Factory 5 Collector's Edition - 3 pts (NEW)
 

test_account

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i'm going to laugh if Kingdom Hearts rhythm game sells more on switch than ps4
Why is that? Isnt the Switch version in favor to sell the most? After all, the Switch has sold a lot more systems/units and is assumingly a more active system at this point in time. And several of rhythm game has sold well on Nintendo platforms before.
 

zroid

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Goldenh

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Miles morales TANKED in japan sheesh. Would be tragic if no PS5 games make it to the top 10 sales next week.
Switch sales seems to be stable from last week, so i guess we could see another 100k+ week after all.
 

zroid

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there's a pretty simple reason actually, but people seem to forget it each time the question is raised
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Ehhh, I don't buy that at all. That number can be compressed significantly, I'm sure. And no one is saying it has to be on one cart. Even on PS4 it is on two discs. If they actually tried it could be done, but Square Enix obviously has no interest in putting games on Switch when there is a risk of upsetting Sony by doing so.
 

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Because it is a canon KH game on a platform without a single KH game before it
It's not like there has never been kh game made for the Nintendo systems.

Rhythm games have an audience on Nintendo unlike PlayStation platform.
Tbh the canon story is is very very less and added towards the end

Ehhh, I don't buy that at all. That number can be compressed significantly, I'm sure. Any no one is saying it has to be on one cart. Even on PS4 it is on two discs. If they actually tried it could be done, but Square Enix obviously has no interest in putting games on Switch when there is a risk of upsetting Sony by doing so.

Lol please
 

evilmonkey

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I hope if Kingdom Hearts sells good on Switch that they bring the collection to it.
Its success won't mean anything. The reason KH hasn't been brought over yet isn't the audience nor the hardware.
I think he means, since the KH series is basically synonymous with PS.
The KH series has had 3 exclusive titles on Nintendo systems before. It would be remarkable moreso because the whole series is available on PS, which is the opposite on the Switch where not a single game is present.
there's a pretty simple reason actually, but people seem to forget it each time the question is raised
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That isn't really an issue when they can sell the thing piecemeal like other publishers have done with their collections already.
 

test_account

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just the irony of that happening despite them stubbornly refusing to release the backcatalogue of KH games on it. There's really no excuse for KH Story So Far to not be on Switch...

also this:
Because it is a canon KH game on a platform without a single KH game before it
I think he means, since the KH series is basically synonymous with PS.
Understood. I still think the Switch version is in favor to sell the most copies due to it being the most popular system by a far margin, and rhythm games might be more prefered on a portable system. I also think theres a bigger overlap when it comes to Kingdom Hearts fans (as in many fans owning both a PS4 and a Switch), and there has been exclusive KH games on Nintendo platforms before (so its not exactly a very unknown IP on Nintendo platforms). And previous multiplatform games in general have done better on Switch as well :)

About "Story So Far", couldnt that be a size issue? Its pretty big in total size, if i'm not mistaken. EDIT: Already mentioned above.
 
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Its success won't mean anything. The reason KH hasn't been brought over yet isn't the audience nor the hardware.

The KH series has had 3 exclusive titles on Nintendo systems before. It would be remarkable moreso because the whole series is available on PS, which is the opposite on the Switch where not a single game is present.

That isn't really an issue when they can sell the thing piecemeal like other publishers have done with their collections already.
neither of those were the numbered titles,
 

Lelouch0612

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Ehhh, I don't buy that at all. That number can be compressed significantly, I'm sure. And no one is saying it has to be on one cart. Even on PS4 it is on two discs. If they actually tried it could be done, but Square Enix obviously has no interest in putting games on Switch when there is a risk of upsetting Sony by doing so.
Ehh they did it with Final Fantasy which is clearly the most "contentious" franchise of the two. I think they tried but it didn't make sense financially at the time (why not wait a bit when carts price go down ?)
 
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File size is the least of the problems if Square wanted to release Kingdom Hearts on Switch. Capcom has tried worse things with carts.
 

Oregano

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Square Enix could release 1.5 and 2.5 separately on Switch and make even more money lol
 

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Its success won't mean anything. The reason KH hasn't been brought over yet isn't the audience nor the hardware.

The KH series has had 3 exclusive titles on Nintendo systems before. It would be remarkable moreso because the whole series is available on PS, which is the opposite on the Switch where not a single game is present.

That isn't really an issue when they can sell the thing piecemeal like other publishers have done with their collections already.

Do you really think it would go over well to sell a 40$ collection as games separately? people already complain when there's the slightest price difference between console versions of a game

of course file size is an issue, it has always been one for ports of Switch titles
 

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Ehhh, I don't buy that at all. That number can be compressed significantly, I'm sure. And no one is saying it has to be on one cart. Even on PS4 it is on two discs. If they actually tried it could be done, but Square Enix obviously has no interest in putting games on Switch when there is a risk of upsetting Sony by doing so.
I'm sure that its possible to get the KH games up and running on the Switch on a techincal level, i agree to that, but i really doubt that they're afraid of upsetting Sony. Otherwise, why is this rhythm game on Switch?


neither of those were the numbered titles,
Thats true, but neither is this newly released rhythm game though =)

EDIT: It also true that the main Kingdom Hearts games are mostly recognized as Playstation games, as you mentioned, but there is some history of KH games being on Nintendo platforms too, so i think it has some recogintion there as well.
 
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fiendcode

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there's a pretty simple reason actually, but people seem to forget it each time the question is raised
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Just split them up then.

KH HD 1.5 ReMIX (PS3) 22.2GB
KH HD 2.5 ReMIX (PS3) 20.2GB
KH HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue (PS4) 29.63GB
KH HD 1.5 + 2.5 HD ReMIX (PS4) 45.24GB


And for comparison:

FFX/X-2 HD Remaster (PS3) 22.89GB
FFX/X-2 HD Remaster (PS4) 32.11GB
FFXII: The Zodiac Age (PS4) 40.68GB
FF Type-0 HD (PS4) 26.8GB
 

zroid

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I'm sure that its possible to get the KH games up and running on the Switch on a techincal level, i agree to that, but i really doubt that they're afraid of upsetting Sony. Otherwise, why is this rhythm game on Switch?



Thats true, but neither is this newly released rhythm game though =)

EDIT: Its true that the main Kingdom Hearts games are mostly recognized as Playstation games, but there are some history of KH being known for Nintendo platforms as well.
Rhythm games are inherently a niche genre. Similar to Musou games and Persona. I was being a little melodramatic with my comment but I do sincerely believe that Sony plays a role in preventing some third party titles from being released on Nintendo platforms.

Ehh they did it with Final Fantasy which is clearly the most "contentious" franchise of the two. I think they tried but it didn't make sense financially at the time (why not wait a bit when carts price go down ?)

Maybe, we'll see. Final Fantasy also has a history with Nintendo so it's a little different I feel. They never stopped releasing old FF games on Nintendo handhelds. I'll eat my hat when a mainline FF game launches on a Nintendo platform alongside a Sony platform.
 

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Do you really think it would go over well to sell a 40$ collection as games separately? people already complain when there's the slightest price difference between console versions of a game

of course file size is an issue, it has always been one for ports of Switch titles
That's exactly what Capcom did and one would think they'd never dare to sell DMC2 standalone and yet here we are.

We need to stop coming up with excuses for these publishers. The reasons have nothing to do with technical limitations. If Square wanted to bring KH to the Switch it would've already happened.
 

fiendcode

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Do you really think it would go over well to sell a 40$ collection as games separately? people already complain when there's the slightest price difference between console versions of a game

of course file size is an issue, it has always been one for ports of Switch titles
On Xbox 1.5 + 2.5 is $50 and 2.8 is $60. Full price late ports are no issue tbh.