I'm struggling to see the value in taking two tight wagons and deflating one so that's there's only one big wagon on Hawthorn and two smaller wagons on Kalor and Vere.Because I have less confidence that gamestate points toward Fanto and more feeling it points toward a particular type of player.
I'm also not willing OR able to go through an ISO, determine if I have a case, and make one, in... 1 hour 40 minutes. Even I can't do that. Especially since it's a gamble and I'm not even remotely confident there's anything even there to find.
However, I have considered Kalor an issue since yesterday with the avoidance around Chuggs and he was my if-Kenny-then target. Other things arose. Other things have since spiraled into mess. Why would I not go back to that, especially when his handling of everything he's touched since last night (RL last night, my time) has looked like mafia trying to find the softest landing?
And you may say you don't, but what you say in that post... that's pretty much just me. I went to Kalor. I made an explicit post about HP and Leo. If not me, who did you mean?
Boy, those are some brass balls.I've been busy and on mobile so I haven't had time. I forgot I didn't switch my vote away from you actually, meant to earlier.
Vote: Fanto
What is interesting?I don't?
Again, Zeke, where did I say that?
Maybe you need big text, too.
IT IS INTERESTING TO ME THAT ALL THE OTHER WAGONS CONTINUED TO LINGER WHILE ZEKE'S, WHICH WAS LEADING, COMPLETELY FADED
I'm not voting for information. I'm voting for reads. I think we get plenty of info off wagon movement today regardless. It's gonna be harder to parse until/unless we find other scumteam, but I scumread Kalor, I'm voting Kalor. I scumread HP and Leo and I will address that after we see if they die.I'm struggling to see the value in taking two tight wagons and deflating one so that's there's only one big wagon on Hawthorn and two smaller wagons on Kalor and Vere.
And I can refer to you going after low hanging fruit and still town read you town does that all the time, it's not a tell. I just think there's more value in keeping tension between Vere and Thorny and forcing scum to decide what to do with themselves rather than deflate one and create a third option that's been pretty universally been read as scummy and it'd be difficult to differentiate between town and scum voters there.
Of course, if Kalor is scum there's value in flipping him, it just doesn't feel like a particularly good flip in terms of information.
Been it's why I posted the gifs. Invested in still getting thorn lynched but see no reason step in the way of other ppl.Yes, you got quiet is me wondering if you were still here or were invested at all now that you didn't have to defend.
You answered that at least!
If I knew, I'd say. I'm not cagey, Zeke. I don't typically hold my thoughts. I think it's interesting. I don't know what it means. I'm pointing it out. Perhaps someone else will have a thought and we can have a fruitful conversation.
Do you scum read Hawthorn?
who has kalor scrutinzedThat Kalor train reeks. I haven't seen most of these people even try to scrutinized Kalor.
If we get enough votes on kalor we can secure our 4th role claim of the day! 8t could be a record?
I might die but Leo almost certainly won't. He got hit with the virus Night 2 so unless it works quicker than the bomb the earliest Leo will die is Night 4.I'm not voting for information. I'm voting for reads. I think we get plenty of info off wagon movement today regardless. It's gonna be harder to parse until/unless we find other scumteam, but I scumread Kalor, I'm voting Kalor. I scumread HP and Leo and I will address that after we see if they die.
I absolutely disagree Kalor is low hanging fruit, but you do you.
did you miss when I said I think her role is a scum one?
How do we even know they're splitting? That's a standard-game thing. Is it happening here? idk.
I also saw plenty of prevaricating.
Do you know how it works? I don't. All I have to go off of is other games and other powers, but we don't know:I might die but Leo almost certainly won't. He got hit with the virus Night 2 so unless it works quicker than the bomb the earliest Leo will die is Night 4.
sounds like a personal issue
That Kalor train reeks. I haven't seen most of these people even try to scrutinized Kalor.
Who would you rather people vote for, zeke?
You've backed off both Hawthorn and Vere today so seems weird to criticise others for it. Especially when you just admitted what a mess the day has been.
I don't think Zeke is among the most scumread in the game. I think a few very loud people scumread Zeke.Just weird that between Zeke, Haw, and Vere, the three most scum read people in this game rn, folks go and vote Kalor.
I don't even know if anyone has ever put a read on Kalor aside from "hard to read, posts little, feels a bit scummy".
I don't know how it works, obviously. Maybe it's a risky assumption to make that they work in line with one another IDK.Do you know how it works? I don't. All I have to go off of is other games and other powers, but we don't know:
-what happened to jman
-if foxdie is even a killing thing
-if bomb is triggered or automatic
-if either of you actually have anything at all
Like folks are out here doubting masons, so doubting if y'all are infected or if it does anything is a much smaller, easier step, and yet.
I suppose it would be personal for you, if she was a teammate.
was wondering when that was coming todayI suppose it would be personal for you, if she was a teammate.
Negative. If they need to stack bombs it makes it harder for them. If they also have to sacrifice someone, as some people have floated, it's less convenient for them to blow up if we pick off sketchy targets. In a two-team situation, having a bomb gives you no protection but you are a danger to everyone BUT scum.I don't know how it works, obviously. Maybe it's a risky assumption to make that they work in line with one another IDK.
Feel free to doubt the bomb being on me by all means. Fact of the matter is that its true and regardless of what occurs with it voting me off is just gonna make things that much easier for Scum.
I've backed off Haw because I believe her claim.
I don't believe Vere's but he isn't happening.
I'm voting for Zeke because his claim is weak af
That Kalor train reeks. I haven't seen most of these people even try to scrutinized Kalor.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE LEOS IN THE BACKSure but its just weird throwing shade when you've moved around as much as anyone. As you say its a mess, but you expect other people to vote in certain ways just not you?
Sure but its just weird throwing shade when you've moved around as much as anyone. As you say its a mess, but you expect other people to vote in certain ways just not you?
I mean in terms of timing. I lived through last night with the bomb on me so I'm assuming Leo will do the same tonight.Negative. If they need to stack bombs it makes it harder for them. If they also have to sacrifice someone, as some people have floated, it's less convenient for them to blow up if we pick off sketchy targets. In a two-team situation, having a bomb gives you no protection but you are a danger to everyone BUT scum.
let me help you out with a tl;drWell business certainly picked up didn't it? I'm swamped at work though but should get some time before EOD to have a quick look
I'm not shading anyone for moving votes, I'm shading people for voting on Kalor for no reason when I feel probably every player in this game have read one out of Haw, Vere and Zeke at least once.
Kalor is a bad impulse vote, we have nothing concrete on him, if he's scum we need more time to find out.
Huge disagree. Town Zeke actually puts in some work and makes an effort. his vote on you on day 1 was trash.
The way he responded to being scum read on day 1 was also not good. He started what i consider his usual scum tactic of evasiveness and never actually engaging in the real argument and instead trying to side track.
I think on day 2 he was still scummy and for someone was knew the two trains on day 1 were town vs town he sure didn't act like it. He did a minimal amount of solving.
He said almost nothing about chuggs in the full game. And when it did come time to vote he didn't even give chuggs a scum read it was the most functional 'we need to see the flip' which isn't good by itself but coupled with getting his vote in just before Chuggs confessed to being scum also did not sit right for me.
I definitely think Chuggs cleared that move with his team and i think zeke felt compelled to vote before the reveal. I think him wanting a quick hammer was scummy too. And obviously chuggs wanted the quick hammer since he voted himself out.
His general annoyance with me calling him out for lying. His annoyance that Jman has been revived.
He is scum and he isn't hding it well.
If you're waiting for something concrete, you're in the wrong place, my dude.I'm not shading anyone for moving votes, I'm shading people for voting on Kalor for no reason when I feel probably every player in this game have read one out of Haw, Vere and Zeke at least once.
Kalor is a bad impulse vote, we have nothing concrete on him, if he's scum we need more time to find out.