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AzerPhire

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Oct 25, 2017
1,201
Just name the game, all this teasing nonsense is just so lame. Either stand behind your info or don't.

This nonsense just reaks of all of the Xbox Live going away leaks that we got a few years ago that went nowhere.
 

Y2Kev

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Oct 25, 2017
13,940
Ubisoft should port Red Steel 1 to Xbox Series and then Microsoft can port it to Switch and PS5 and Ouya.
 

EagleClaw

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Dec 31, 2018
10,913
Are people just joking when they completely ignore PS5 and just talk about a Xbox game release on Switch 2 during this year,
or am i missing something ?

I believe the reason why the game nor the console is named is because otherwise everyone would say "huh... ok" and move on.
 

BaconHat

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,162
Are people just joking when they completely ignore PS5 and just talk about a Xbox game release on Switch 2 during this year,
or am i missing something ?
We have had xbox games on switch like the two ori games, Microsoft have shown that they are okay with that choice. Why would we think ps5 first then when the previous examples were more on switch?
Hack, for xbox developped game pentiment, we have had it's devs talk about how in theory a switch port would be directly, since they see that as possible instead of on PS.
 

Iwao

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Oct 25, 2017
11,878
We have had xbox games on switch, Microsoft have shown that they are okay with that choice. Why would we think ps5 first then when the previous examples were more on switch?
It's just the two Ori games, and that was 3-4 years ago.
As for XGS games, more recently MS was okay with letting As Dusk Falls go to PS4/5.
 

BaconHat

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
5,162
It's just the two Ori games, and that was 3-4 years ago.
As for XGS games, more recently MS was okay with letting As Dusk Falls go to PS4/5.
For older examples, we have had the rare games on gba after Microsoft bought them (not the same case and strategy, but they have had consistent history for the question of where a Microsoft exclusive could be ported)
 
Nov 19, 2019
10,231
Are people just joking when they completely ignore PS5 and just talk about a Xbox game release on Switch 2 during this year,
or am i missing something ?

I believe the reason why the game nor the console is named is because otherwise everyone would say "huh... ok" and move on.
I think this is also extremely likely. The "GotY contender for the year it was released" struck me as extreme clickbait.
 

Iwao

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Oct 25, 2017
11,878
Hack, for xbox developped game pentiment, we have had it's devs talk about how in theory a switch port would be directly, since they see that as possible instead of on PS.
I don't think that is correct. The question they were asked in this interview was to do with the possibility of the game being ported to devices like Switch or iPad, and the answer was in relation what they were asked about, followed by "I would love the game to be on as many platforms as possible".

For older examples, we have had the rare games on gba after Microsoft bought them (not the same case and strategy, but they have had consistent history for the question of where a Microsoft exclusive could be ported)
That was like 20 years ago, and Xbox did not have a handheld alternative to develop for so they focused on the popular Nintendo hardware of the time. The PSP was introduced to the market as Rare was beginning to sunset the development of handheld games.
 

BaconHat

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Oct 25, 2017
5,162
I don't think that is correct. The question they were asked in this interview was to do with the possibility of the game being ported to devices like Switch or iPad, and the answer was in relation what they were asked about, followed by "I would love the game to be on as many platforms as possible".


That was like 20 years ago, and Xbox did not have a handheld alternative to develop for so they focused on the popular Nintendo hardware of the time. The PSP was introduced to the market as Rare was beginning to sunset the development of handheld games.
Microsoft also licensed banjo again for the n64 online on the Switch a few years ago to append to the rare stuff (which like I said, was too old to be the same case and strategy, it's obvious it was another case, but helps to respond to the question I was responding as to why some ppl thought switch before Playstation.)
 

9-Volt

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Oct 27, 2017
12,913
For older examples, we have had the rare games on gba after Microsoft bought them (not the same case and strategy, but they have had consistent history for the question of where a Microsoft exclusive could be ported)
Not just GBA Rare games, Microsoft was a big supporter of DS, through other publishers:

Viva Piñata Pocket Paradise
Zoo Tycoon
Zoo Tycoon 2
Age of Empires
Age of Empires Mythologies
Mechassault Phantom War
Blue Dragon Plus
Blue Dragon Awakened Shadow
 

Dust

C H A O S
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Oct 25, 2017
32,875
The notion of Xbox hardware disappearing is not exactly rational because even it shrinks to just Xbox diehards that's still easily 20m people subbed to Game Pass. MS will entertain that, for sure.
 

Charamiwa

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Oct 25, 2017
6,080
It's crazy on Twitter right now. Xbox fans about to make Phil cancel my Hi Fi Rush Switch port. I'll never forgive them.
 

Rolodzeo

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Nov 10, 2017
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What can I say, the more platforms a game is available on, the better. As far as I'm concerned, MS should port every game to every platform. Same with Nintendo and Sony. But what do I know.
 

FrakEarth

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Oct 25, 2017
3,303
Liverpool, UK
The notion of Xbox hardware disappearing is not exactly rational because even it shrinks to just Xbox diehards that's still easily 20m people subbed to Game Pass. MS will entertain that, for sure.
It's just utter fanboy fantasy and concern trolling. They've made themselves in to a first party publishing giant literally just last year, and have yet to really flex any of their muscles from all of their acquisitions. They are definitely able to me more unorthodox about the models they pursue and the platforms they target, but people are out of their mind if they think the hardware is going anywhere or that exclusives aren't coming. The people who buy in to this thinking and want it to be true are gonna feel sore about it in a few years.
 
Jul 28, 2020
680
I don't think that MS is going full multipatform, not with the ABK acquisition which is a big move. 0% chance.

ABK forces some 3rd party activity, even if there wasn't a contractual obligation to fulfill re: Cod, the idea that spending 70bn to create games for Xbox alone is hard to swallow for all but the most paranoid, what's interesting is working out where the exclusivity line is.

I read something about Starfield being profitable immediately at launch, but we know now that it wasn't the exclusive that shifted huge amounts of hardware. I don't see why Microsoft would feel that keeping it on Xbox alone would be hugely beneficial.

I don't see why this might be all that different to Sony putting games on pc after release, but keeping some games fully exclusive.
 

Fortinbras

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Oct 27, 2017
1,636
The notion of Xbox hardware disappearing is not exactly rational because even it shrinks to just Xbox diehards that's still easily 20m people subbed to Game Pass. MS will entertain that, for sure.
Personally I don't think they will. This company will drop an entire division/product line without any hesitation it they seem not worth it. If the math checks out, they'll drop Xbox consoles like a hot potato.

We've heard it often enough: MS is a software/service company and not a hardware company according to the CEO.

As someone who is deeply invested in the eco system and bought more than 1200 digital games as well as countless dlc, I do believe that Xbox consoles are on their way out. Probably within the the next decade. Owning Activision is only going to accelerate that.

(For years MS have worked really hard to make Xbox irrelevant here in mainland Europe, my opinion is not based on the rumor that Hi-Fi Rush is coming to Switch, it's more based on the sum of actions and messaging by MS in the recent years.)
 

Dust

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's just utter fanboy fantasy and concern trolling. They've made themselves in to a first party publishing giant literally just last year, and have yet to really flex any of their muscles from all of their acquisitions. They are definitely able to me more unorthodox about the models they pursue and the platforms they target, but people are out of their mind if they think the hardware is going anywhere or that exclusives aren't coming. The people who buy in to this thinking and want it to be true are gonna feel sore about it in a few years.
Yeah, Xbox HW will be there for any forseeable future/decades. What will happen is that they will have to readjust software strategy with slipping console sales/Game Pass growth. How? We will see.

PlayStation has a similar problem but about lack of super successful GAAS project that they fully own. Destiny 2 isn't doing too hot.
 
Jul 28, 2020
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Personally I don't think they will. This company will drop an entire division/product line without any hesitation it they seem not worth it. If the math checks out, they'll drop Xbox consoles like a hot potato.

We've heard it often enough: MS is a software/service company and not a hardware company according to the CEO.

As someone who is deeply invested in the eco system and bought more than 1200 digital games as well as countless dlc, I do believe that Xbox consoles are on their way out. Probably within the the next decade. Owning Activision is only going to accelerate that.

(For years MS have worked really hard to make Xbox irrelevant here in mainland Europe, my opinion is not based on the rumor that Hi-Fi Rush is coming to Switch, it's more based on the sum of actions and messaging by MS in the recent years.)

I think Xbox is profitable and they've just greenlit the purchase of a series of publishers and studios.

While I think (as I said a couple of posts up) the purchases are too big purely to service Xbox consoles, they were surely part of the arrangement.

Given the difficulties that Xbox had getting Activision over the line, going as far as criticising and practically threatening the UK government, if they weren't set on staying in the console business, they'd have been able to offer more guarantees to Sony than they did and have made the problem go away instantly.

That they didn't do that should give pause for thought.
 

DuckSauce

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Aug 19, 2023
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More like concern trolling

At least I hope it is.. Cause no way people actually think this
There is most definitely some on here that truly believe Microsoft is going third party after purchasing Activision Blizzard, because all the tea leaves point to that spectacle of belief. Obviously those opinions and theories ignore the elephant in the room that is Microsoft still doing relatively well (obviously not to PS5 levels), and no solid proof that going third party would even provide a swift resolution to the issue they apparently have the solution for.
 

turkoman_

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Apr 29, 2023
170
Personally I don't think they will. This company will drop an entire division/product line without any hesitation it they seem not worth it. If the math checks out, they'll drop Xbox consoles like a hot potato.

We've heard it often enough: MS is a software/service company and not a hardware company according to the CEO.

As someone who is deeply invested in the eco system and bought more than 1200 digital games as well as countless dlc, I do believe that Xbox consoles are on their way out. Probably within the the next decade. Owning Activision is only going to accelerate that.

(For years MS have worked really hard to make Xbox irrelevant here in mainland Europe, my opinion is not based on the rumor that Hi-Fi Rush is coming to Switch, it's more based on the sum of actions and messaging by MS in the recent years.)

So trillion dollar Microsoft just decides to be game publisher similar EA or Ubisoft with no end game plan like a big ecosystem or widely accessible subscription services etc. They'll just ask Sony to allow Gamepass like EA asked for EA Access in 2014 and if they say no, Gamepass won't be an option for consoles anymore. Especially when current CEO calls killing of Windows Phone (a hardware that had %3.4 market share at its peak) as his biggest regret in his career.

Microsoft is a weird company, everything is possible though.
 

RivalGT

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Dec 13, 2017
6,448
What can I say, the more platforms a game is available on, the better. As far as I'm concerned, MS should port every game to every platform. Same with Nintendo and Sony. But what do I know.
I think they would if their hardware sales were similar to something like the Wii U and vita for 2 generations in a row. The case for MS is different since they have game pass, but their sales have declined for 2 generations in a row. In Sony case I don't think they would be making 300m single player games if PS5 was only expected to sell around 50 million consoles.

I think their strategy will need to change if they can't sell enough consoles for services like game pass to continue to grow.
 

Smash Kirby

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Nov 7, 2017
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Yeah, although I personally feel that the series got worse as it went on, I've always placed 2 closely behind TLC as my favourite of the bunch.

When Microsoft announced the PC version of Fable: Anniversary several months after the release of the Xbox version, I figured a PC port of 2 was on the cards, as if Fable: TLC, Fable 3, and a remake of Fable: TLC are on PC, surely the end goal was to fill that gap.

But, well, here we are.
And Fable 3 is forever trapped in GFWL land sadly.
 

zolee

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Oct 2, 2020
904
I could see MS bringing Game Pass core to PS through Bethesda and Activision, I also don't see why Sony would be too opposed to that, EA play is there and Ubisoft+ Classics is part of PS+
 

Carmelozi

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Nov 6, 2017
2,158
If Tom Henderson had that info he would write an article about it.
Really wonder though what kinda stuff goes on inside the head of people who just make this kinda shit up.

Yep, that's true ahah. That said, this situation will be more unbearable as more time passes, I saw IGN picked it up and made an article. Soon more gaming site will also talk about this. MS/Phil Spencer are about to have a PR disaster if they let this go.
 

Scottoest

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Feb 4, 2020
11,428
It's just utter fanboy fantasy and concern trolling. They've made themselves in to a first party publishing giant literally just last year, and have yet to really flex any of their muscles from all of their acquisitions. They are definitely able to me more unorthodox about the models they pursue and the platforms they target, but people are out of their mind if they think the hardware is going anywhere or that exclusives aren't coming. The people who buy in to this thinking and want it to be true are gonna feel sore about it in a few years.

I think a lot of people just fundamentally misunderstand Microsoft's business strategy with Xbox, when people talk about ho they don't care about console hardware. It's true that they are less focused on shifting console hardware units than Nintendo or Sony, but the Xbox is still an invaluable access point to their software and services ecosystem - currently still more than cloud or PC. They aren't going to do things that undermine or devalue that ecosystem any more than Sony or Nintendo are.
 

Gavalanche

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Oct 21, 2021
18,190
I could see MS bringing Game Pass core to PS through Bethesda and Activision, I also don't see why Sony would be too opposed to that, EA play is there and Ubisoft+ Classics is part of PS+

Neither of those are day one though.

Sony could in theory lose a heap of money solely by CoD being on there.
 

Fisty

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Oct 25, 2017
20,395
The notion of Xbox hardware disappearing is not exactly rational because even it shrinks to just Xbox diehards that's still easily 20m people subbed to Game Pass. MS will entertain that, for sure.

I find it highly unlikely MS will base an entire hardware development and production pipeline around 20M unit sales

Activision didn't need its own hardware to be profitable
 

asmith906

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Oct 27, 2017
27,565
I could see MS bringing Game Pass core to PS through Bethesda and Activision, I also don't see why Sony would be too opposed to that, EA play is there and Ubisoft+ Classics is part of PS+
Unless Game Pass Core drastically increases the games attached to it I don't see what benefit a PlayStation user would get out of it. It really only makes sense on Xbox because it includes multiplayer support.
 

YuriLowell

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Oct 26, 2017
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This is going to be hilarious when it turns out to just be Pentiment or Psychonauts 1/2 combo pack on the switch.
 

GrrImAFridge

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Oct 25, 2017
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And Fable 3 is forever trapped in GFWL land sadly.

Yeah, even the Steam version was delisted after Microsoft pulled the plug on the GFWL Marketplace. IIRC, a Lionhead employee later said somewhere on the internet that key generation was tied to Marketplace services, so once Valve ran out, that was it.

I'd like to think we'll get an MCCesque "collection" some day, and with that a PC version of Fable 2, but with Fable 202x being a full-on reboot, I'm not exactly holding my breath.
 
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GulfCoastZilla

Shinra Employee
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Sep 13, 2022
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this is going to end up being disappointing to the other consoles fans.

They will be expecting hi fi rush but it will end up being pentiment and that's niche interest. Same thing for Flight Sim.

They should push Sea of Thieves out there and making money off of Hi Fi Rush.

Xbox has great games but not games that you will drop $299 on let alone $500.