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North Korea: No need for more missile tests
- Thread starter SeroTyler
- Start date
Well, they certainly can't hide nuclear testing. If they are hiding something or lying it won't be for long.
What if this is all a big misunderstanding on North Korea, and maybe even China's part?
What if NK thought that Trump would respond to North Korea's preemptive peace offer with "fire and fury", descriditing Trump and the US in all future talks on the subject, and justifying criticism of imposed sanctions as North Korea would become increasingly justified in building its arsenal against an insane warmonger?
What if the reason Kim Jong-Un is constantly making the terms better for the US is because he thinks that this time, this time, surely Trump will react like a mad man and bring all of this to an end, but instead Trump keeps on being nice and now Kim is starting to really regret getting this whole discussion started? What if it was just a complete misreading of Trump resulting from a major cultural gap between Trump and North Korea?
What if NK thought that Trump would respond to North Korea's preemptive peace offer with "fire and fury", descriditing Trump and the US in all future talks on the subject, and justifying criticism of imposed sanctions as North Korea would become increasingly justified in building its arsenal against an insane warmonger?
What if the reason Kim Jong-Un is constantly making the terms better for the US is because he thinks that this time, this time, surely Trump will react like a mad man and bring all of this to an end, but instead Trump keeps on being nice and now Kim is starting to really regret getting this whole discussion started? What if it was just a complete misreading of Trump resulting from a major cultural gap between Trump and North Korea?
This isn't a new development. Well, it would not be if people weren't so busy shitting on me four years ago, when I was in DPRK and posted about it. What is happening now is precisely what they said in 2014 would happen. Back then they were building a new airport, new hotels, teaching venture capital, all in preparation for the time they begin opening up and normalising.
To quote myself
Chittagong said:
They are hungry as fuck and legitimately afraid that the loose cannon on the other side of the world might actually start some shit this time.
This is going to blow up in Trump's face like how he thought Obama's Iran Deal was going to.
This drastic shift in rhetoric just doesn't feel right. It's overtly suspicious. Playing into Trump's need to look good and I'm sure SK is eager to talk peace at this point regardless.
Hoping for the best, however. Obviously diplomacy is preferred.
This drastic shift in rhetoric just doesn't feel right. It's overtly suspicious. Playing into Trump's need to look good and I'm sure SK is eager to talk peace at this point regardless.
Hoping for the best, however. Obviously diplomacy is preferred.
I'm beginning to think that Trump's strategy is working.
Probably haven't been used to such direct language before.
But, if it works .... It works!
Probably haven't been used to such direct language before.
But, if it works .... It works!
"weirdest timeline" lol.
Maybe wait until North Korea does something rather than says something.
It's almost like they're masters at trolling and cannot be trusted based on words alone.
Outside of talking "big", Trump wasn't really doing much that we hadn't already been doing. It's possible the rhetoric worked, but I'm more inclined to believe that it's simply that we continued pressing sanctions, they probably had complications with their program, and South Korea had some good talks.
I honestly have a feeling this had been coming for a long time.
If they were dumb enough to fall for Trump's rhetoric, then dang, they were pretty stupid I guess.
He's a wretched dumbass but it doesn't matter what warmongering schemes he's concocted. The United States would not risk the destruction of Seoul and Tokyo leading to the deaths of tens of millions of people. That isn't naivety, it's geopolitical reality - there's no precedent for a first strike against a nuclear power but there is precedent of decades of mutually assured destruction and the stalemate peace that goes along with it. The United States had plenty of pricks fantasizing about nuking the Soviet Union (and no doubt vice versa) throughout the Cold War, Bolton's cut from the same cloth and as with them, nothing will come of it because the consequence of actually acting would be unimaginable.
This is like that Jimmy Neutron episode where the egg aliens from the first movie came back and pretended they were good.
They gave one to Obama so anything can happen. I look forward to the thread.
If this all goes well, especially after the meetings, then all this makes sense. NK is now recognized at the international level, is about to meet with a US president for the first time, etc. If all goes well, and they integrate into the rest of the world, it will be infinitely more beneficial for Un and NK than his nukes will ever be.
I loved Obama (... For the most part) but didn't he get his after doing pretty much nothing?
The guy who enslaves his country in a way that is unseen anywhere else on earth is now going to integrate into the rest of the world? Their hermit status is precisely the reason why they've been able to brainwash the entire country into not revolting.
I understand this forum is full of mega doves, but how the fuck can people be so naive?
Doesn't opening up to the world put the regime at more risk?
That depends on what gets worked out in these meetings. I assume protections not just to NK, but to Kim personally will have to be guaranteed.
Not a hope it hell it's that. NK protected itself with those missile tests because their neighbors let them. They brought the US to the table doing it.
Japan complained, SK complained. Other places snickered as they knew NK would never do anything other than posture.
NK has won in Trump terms, posturing. They have gained face. Nobody wins anything other than a childish shouting match argument.
My theory:
Trumps "different" approach to NK caught Un by surprise. He's unable to exploit goodwill negotiations or threaten his way to concessions. He's up against a blunt instrument who doesn't know or care to play the game regardless of the potential consequences.
So, no longer able to bluff, Un has used the Olympics to "extend the olive branch" to SK while saving face with the people/military of NK.
Trump Mr. Magoo'd his way to potential peace with NK.
Trumps "different" approach to NK caught Un by surprise. He's unable to exploit goodwill negotiations or threaten his way to concessions. He's up against a blunt instrument who doesn't know or care to play the game regardless of the potential consequences.
So, no longer able to bluff, Un has used the Olympics to "extend the olive branch" to SK while saving face with the people/military of NK.
Trump Mr. Magoo'd his way to potential peace with NK.
I said before and it can go with anything. People want to believe in bullshit. There must be inspectors with unrestricted access and plus an additional other concessions. Getting rid of sanctions with US soldiers still stationed, legitimizing them and opening them up in the world with the current regime still in place, and them saying they will denuclearize is effectively giving them everything without them losing anything.
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Motherfucker with the shitty hair and thicc ties brought peace to the world. Give that mane a yuge Nobel Peace Prize
If you're going to exaggerate to troll, why stop at the world? The galaxy is a pretty peaceful place and no space wars to speak of.
It's 'thighs' man, your one means using rope to incapacitate something/someone or an object.
