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PlayStation Studios |OT16| Where we're going, we don't need loads.
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Can we please take a moment to congrats all PlayStation devs for making some high quality and incredible games all over the years?
I'm kinda pissed about CDPR, and really sorry for all the devs that have putted their heart and soul into Cyberpunk... the bad leadershipt is destroying the company :/
I'm kinda pissed about CDPR, and really sorry for all the devs that have putted their heart and soul into Cyberpunk... the bad leadershipt is destroying the company :/
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They were supposed to make a TV show created in game engine and they did some tests with it but apparently they canned the idea, and instead they are developing a game now (remakes were mentioned as something they pursued but he couldn't say what they are developing right now).
He also kinda hinted that Zenimax Online formed a studio in San Diego to get talent from Sony's San Diego studios. Before, San Diego has been a location where talent doesn't move between studios as rapidly as in LA.
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It'll depend on the type of games WWS puts out this gen.
CP2077 is very dense ambitious in scope, hence why it's riddled with bugs.
Most of Sony's AAA games are either in post-apocalyptical or nature-centric settings, with limited amount of NPC and interactive objects on-screen.
Spider-Man 2 might be the one to look out for, maybe even ND's next game if it's Sci-Fi/Cyberpunk themed.
Just finished miles. It was amazing in all ways. That 1080pRt patch came at a right time as I cant choose which mode to play in.
It's kinda incredible how insomniac is treating the spider-man franchise. It gave that MCU feel which felt like comfort food in a year that is lacking of MCU and movies in general.
Had a few bugs and crashes here in there as well as a fatal error
that I had to hard restart my PS5 but everything was all good once I started back up.
I forgot if it had the marvel roll at the beginning.
Oh and the soundtrack is amazing. They nailed it.
As a longtime spider-man fan, Miles is really starting to get ahead of peter for me. I haven't followed the comics though.
edit: my grammar died in this post. It's 4:30 in the morning.
It's kinda incredible how insomniac is treating the spider-man franchise. It gave that MCU feel which felt like comfort food in a year that is lacking of MCU and movies in general.
Had a few bugs and crashes here in there as well as a fatal error
on the ending cutscene though I didnt mind rewatching it again
I forgot if it had the marvel roll at the beginning.
Oh and the soundtrack is amazing. They nailed it.
As a longtime spider-man fan, Miles is really starting to get ahead of peter for me. I haven't followed the comics though.
edit: my grammar died in this post. It's 4:30 in the morning.
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I'm hoping for a Lost Legacy/Miles Morales type of game coming from the new San Diego Studio. It doesn't have be the biggest game ever, just a very good 10~15 hours game like UC1 were back in 2007.
A remake of the first God Of War or even Uncharted 1 would be kinda nice, but to see a remake being made as their first game would be a little disappointing.
A remake of the first God Of War or even Uncharted 1 would be kinda nice, but to see a remake being made as their first game would be a little disappointing.
... Huh?
Sony just gave us Astro's Playroom, Sackboy, Miles and Demon's Souls – All 4 games being very gameplay-centric, and of very good-to-great quality.
They're giving us Returnal, Destruction All Stars and Ratchet & Clank next... And people still insist on this kind of shit.
Scope is key the word here.
Sony hasn't put out a game that's anywhere near the density or detail of what CP2077's world is trying to do.
Gameplay isn't in question here; WWS games all play exceptionally well. I'm talking about a game's technical ambition.
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Well we know that Zenimax already snatched some of their devs, including the Sr. Game Designer Quentin Cobb of Sony's new AAA team in San Diego, etc.
Yup, that's what they were talking about. Kinda interesting how he talked about Cobb but probably better not to say those things here.
Michael putting out a lot of interesting info.
I guess we can take that as confirmation that the VASG team (we already had that kinda), that usually only supports other studios with their games, is working on their own game by using stuff that was already made for an existing game (and that's the secret San Diego team).
Uncharted Spin-off seems likely.
Yeah, that seemed odd.
Was it just weirdly personal or something? Sorry, I'm unable to listen to the video right now so I'm a bit confused.
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can someone who watched the video summarize the most interesting parts regarding the San Diego Team and Sonys first Party Studio?
It was just mostly speculative, since he cant say for sure the reason why he left.
But the way he say it, is that it was a normal departure and that didnt affect what the studio was working on.
Well, it's a game development team within Sony Visual Arts, that has more than 200 people working. Not to mention the possible support from Naughty Dog (or some other studio) that the job description said in 2018.
No, the whole VASG group has more than 250 devs. That's the whole team that also works on other first and third party games and helps with ingame animation and cinematography.
But within that group there is a team working on a game. We don't know how many devs are working on it.
Man this video was quite interesting. It seems that recent creative exits from Japan Sutdio and Sony Bend are normal. Sony has suffered a change of command and this always comes with movements. It seems that Shu also did the same during his early years as head of SIE WS. (He canceled two triple A's and a lot of talent left). It also seems that the competition is spending a lot of money during this Gen and want to absorb Sony creatives.
Last Gen was very smooth for Sony, but in this it seems that they will have much more competition. I hope the investment is up to the task and behind-the-scenes moves are being made.
Last Gen was very smooth for Sony, but in this it seems that they will have much more competition. I hope the investment is up to the task and behind-the-scenes moves are being made.
It's kinda personal.
Michael implies that he publicly put himself at the centre of the team to boost his own career, but it was positive for the studio because people now were aware of that "secret San Diego team" that helped in the recruitment process.
At least that is my impression.
At least that is my impression.
Personally, I think Michael should have avoided this topic and just ignored the names Jaffe was throwing around.
It's speculation on my side, but those guys that left Visual Arts (including Cobb) were multiplayer focused devs. They probably prefer to work on big online project than single player game. May be that is an important personal factor.
I found the talk about crunch culture pretty interesting in that video and how Jaffe and Mumbauer gave different perspectives. Based on that video let's just say, I'm not expecting for example Naughty Dog, Rockstar or any top-level studio making the highest fidelity games to fully stop crunching, which is sad but that's how I interpret the situation in the industry.
If you set up a new AAA studio, that's what you have to do - get talent from other studios. I mean if you can offer the developers something that makes them enough interested to join, I don't see it as a bad thing.
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Best Use of DualSense
- Astro's Playroom
- Miles Morales
- Black Ops Cold War
- Demon's Souls
I haven't played Cold War or Demon's Souls remastered (yet) but I can say without any doubt that Sackboy ABA has far, far superior DualSense support than Miles Morales. Second only to Astro from what I've played.
Yeah. Miles actually has pretty good haptic feedback, but Sackboy is one of the few games that felt like it was utilizing sound waves to create dynamic vibrations like Astro does. Miles is definitely more subtle and dynamic than typical rumble like in Borderlands 3 or AC Valhalla, but it's definitely not at Sackboy level.
I disagree with Borderlands 3. It uses extremely basic rumble vibrations, and one trigger function (hard resistance to a click). Miles uses one trigger function, too, but at least it uses halfway decent haptic feedback.
it's a mixed bag at least. Hopefully it would lead to better pay/benefits/working conditions for everyone with more employers competing for talent
Got it, thank you. That is a bit strange. I guess every industry has a little bit of gossip.
Yeah, sucks for the studios who lose the talent but they can also get new talent from somewhere else. More studio competition is definitely better for the developers.
I rather like the trigger functions on Borderlands 3 myself. Using Moze's mech makes the controller shake like crazy, and I tend not to use pistols as much anymore because they're harder to rapid fire now. I do think Cold War's implementation is more impressive, however, it's a lot of fun to fire off the assault rifles in that game.
Miles' incorporation is just a little too subtle for me, I hardly even feel it. I haven't played it in a few weeks, though, so if it's been improved in a patch, I haven't yet experienced it.
Well, I doubt Management told them to put certain content into the game.
So yeah, in this case I stand by what I said.
This. The first party lineup has been absolutely incredible, and off to a fast start on PS5 as well with some fantastic launch games. Amazing job by the PS devs.
People love trying to fit a triangle into a square hole.
Super long periods of OT definitely need to go away however It's honestly inevitable in almost every project that people WILL need to work some level of OT, but gaming industry definitely abuses that and projects def need to be better managed to reduce having to do it. But in my own experience of working on projects usually the options are attempt to hire more people or work OT and the Amount of time to hire people and get them up to speed many times people on the project can work more time and are more efficient.
However way better planning and even looking at historically how a project ran can help to reduce crunch if companies are way way better at managing their projects but people are unpredictable and you can have shit like a pandemic and it forces you to work extra time to get something out the door for various reasons.
That's kind of how I view it.
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They've done a great job. I've played through Days Gone and God of War on the PS+ Collection and they're both great with the scale of the games. Looking forward to the sequels of both (I'm sure there will be one for Days Gone eventually).
Did I miss something?
I know the game sold well but I don't think we ever got any numbers.
- Over 100 people in his studio (VASG) worked on TLOU2 for Naughty Dog. They worked on the cinematic animations. For example how the Ellie model looks, her animations, etc. Naughty Dog has people for cinematic animations, too. But his team did the majority of the work.
- VASG has 250 - 300 people. The new SIE studio in Malaysia is a part of it. When he joined, it had roughly 30 people. It's full of talent.
- Shawn Layden was a fan of remaking/remastering old Sony IPs. So I guess Shawn is the reason why we got the Uncharted Collection, the God of War remasters, the Shadow of the Colossus remake, the MediEvil Remake, the Crash remake, Demon's Souls remake, etc. And I guess with Shawn now gone, things are changing. Explains why no MediEvil 2 remake will be made imo.
- The new AAA team at San Diego VASG is working on an action adventure game, "while utilizing proprietary engine technology. This team was assembled to expand upon existing franchises and craft all new stories for the next generation of gamers."
- That some people are saying "crunch is always a management issue" makes no sense. Both worked with some of the best studios bosses / managers ever. And they still crunched in the end to finish a big project. Both (Michael and David) made some good points. You have to listen to it. They talked a lot about the crunch topic.
- He wanted to make some animated shows, while using assets they made and used for the big AAA singleplayer games. For example, instead of waiting 4 to 5 years for a story to continue (or after a franchise ended), they could keep telling a story in that universe with these kind of shows. They even had a Uncharted prototype ready and it looked great. But Sony wasn't sure there's a market for this. So they didn't keep this idea alive.
- As mentioned, Shawn was a fan of remakes and remasters. So they had ideas to remake the first Uncharted and the first God of War
- He thinks it's "interesting" that some people used social media to put themselves and the "secret team" into the spotlight.
- Left Sony to form a new company. Looks like he wants to do what he tried before at VASG. Using in-game assets/cinematics to create TV shows.
- Things change when the big management guys are changing/leaving. Happened after Phil Harrison, Jack Tretton, Shawn Layden, Andrew House, Shu Yoshida, etc.
- Everybody loves Shu
Good video overall. Some interesting stuff. Clearly looks like they are working on a new Uncharted game imho. So my guess, 3 years ago, seems to be right. A new Uncharted game like The Lost Legacy is my good guess. Or, who knows, maybe even an Uncharted 1 remake (maybe even the VITA game, Golden Abyss). When Jaffe asked him "so you guys are doing a remake" he clearly had to stop and think what he can say next. So yeah, let's see. We should get an announcement next year.
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This is very insightful. A very interesting interview.
I feel that Uncharted episode stuff was tossed aside in favour of a Uncharted Movie or maybe that overlapped?
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