(Rumor) RTX 4070 to be priced at $600. Mid April Release

blastprocessor · Mar 30, 2023

Assuming this is on average a 3080 it look like I'll be upgrading from a 1060. The 4060ti and 4060 with 8gb is a no go.

Really the 4060 should have been the 3080 on average, like the 1060 was on average a 980. But alas the 4000 generation seems to be a disappointment, I'm not patient enough to wait for the 5000 series.

dhlt25 · Mar 30, 2023

250W is the most attractive thing for me. I might bite.. my 2070 just groan in agony everytime I play something new nowadays

Timu · Mar 30, 2023

brain_stew said:
Native Performance is irrelevant. DLSS often surpasses the image quality of native resolution TAA even in the performance mode at 4K so there's no good argument for turning it off. It's a different equation on AMD hardware because FSR2 doesn't have the same image quality and the RT performance is so poor.

I'm enjoying games with the full gamut of RT effects like Witcher Enhanced at 4K/120hz thanks to DLSS3. No need to wait, the hardware is already here, and it's great that it's now accessible at $600.

As a previous user of the 3070, I completely accept that RT is far less useful at that performance tier and VRAM capacity. A 12GB 3080/3080Ti tier card with DLSS3 support though? That's a very capable RT card.

Well, not every game supports DLSS and/or FSR and not only that but the quality of them can vary on the game. Like in some games it looks better than native and other times worse with issues like blurriness, flickering and such. I'm sure it also relies on the cpu more as well. I would say Quality mode is the only one worth using really for image quality and performance. Balanced can be okay in certain situations but not always worth it. The performance modes just look...ugh.

Those upscaling methods won't be a standard until nearly every game from now on supports both!

St. Elmo's Fire · Mar 30, 2023

I'm fine with my RTX 3080. Maybe in 2 years when there's something much better.

YorkshireDaveUK · Mar 30, 2023

brain_stew said:
What is it and what's your memory.? It's easy to notice in game as if you're not hitting a Vsync or framerate cap and your GPU utilisation is below 95% then you're hitting a CPU bottleneck. The problem is it changes from game to game and even scene to scene within a game. Certain titles like the Last Of Us port or Flight Sim make it near impossible to totally avoid.

This is what I have at the moment.

Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor (24 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
OS Memory:16302MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
Display Memory: 16153 MB
Dedicated Memory: 8003 MB
Shared Memory: 8150 MB

brain_stew · Mar 30, 2023

Timu said:
Well, not every game supports DLSS and/or FSR and not only that but the quality of them can vary on the game. Like in some games it looks better than native and other times worse with issues like blurriness, flickering and such. I'm sure it also relies on the cpu more as well. I would say Quality mode is the only one worth using really for image quality and performance. Balanced can be okay in certain situations but not always worth it. The performance modes just look...ugh.

Those upscaling methods won't be a standard until nearly every game from now on supports both!

Performance mode DLSS at 4K looks fantastic. I'm convinced the majority of gamers wouldn't be able to tell the difference to native in a double-blind test. DLSS doesn't have any measurable CPU overhead.

brain_stew · Mar 30, 2023

YorkshireDaveUK said:
This is what I have at the moment.

Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor (24 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
OS Memory:16302MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
Display Memory: 16153 MB
Dedicated Memory: 8003 MB
Shared Memory: 8150 MB

The 3900x has never been a particularly great gaming CPU, it will definitely be more of an issue with the GPU upgrade.

A cheap drop in upgrade to a 5800x3D and 32GB memory would make a huge difference.

Timu · Mar 30, 2023

brain_stew said:
Performance mode DLSS at 4K looks fantastic. I'm convinced the majority of gamers wouldn't be able to tell the difference to native in a double-blind test. DLSS doesn't have any measurable CPU overhead.

I would sure hope so since it's coming off 4k!=p Yeah I was referring to 1440p and 1080p for that(although why would anyone use DLSS and FSR at 1080p blows my mind).

fracas · Mar 30, 2023

Not a terrible price - obviously not the value king Ampere was but after some nasty ass inflation the past couple years, I could live with that.

supercommodore · Mar 30, 2023

On nvidia's website it has the 4070, 4060 and 4050 on the left filter bar but no items. Wonder if there will be a reference card.

Nameless · Mar 30, 2023

Zephy said:
Still looking like my next card will be a used 3090 for ~700€.

I grabbed a new 3090 FTW3 around Black Friday for a little over $700 and have been super happy with it as a 4K card for a couch setup.

Shader comp. stutter aside, the 24gb vRAM paired with 32gb RAM seem to have mitigated the problems people have been reporting with some of the big AAA ports lately.

1-D_FE · Mar 30, 2023

xyla said:
So if I'd sell my used 3070 (non TI) I'd have to pay around 300 on top. That sucks.
Probably better to wait for a 4060 TI if I don't wanna be limited to 8GB of VRAM anymore and do a sidegrade.

4060 ti is going to be a real POS. 8GB RAM on a 128bit bus. And probably 500 dollars to boot.

I'm assuming there's a typo in there somewhere. This card is literally going to be 3070 performance (and might lose in certain scenarios).

dhlt25 said:
250W is the most attractive thing for me. I might bite.. my 2070 just groan in agony everytime I play something new nowadays

These things also undervolt a lot. I cut 100 watts off my system draw with the 4070 ti.

Basically under full stress, my entire computer draws 385 watts from the wall at stock settings. With an undervolt, it draws 285 watts from the wall. And most games aren't pegging the gpu @ 100 percent, so it's way lower than that in practice.

Solobbos · Mar 30, 2023

My 8Gb 3070 was 609€ and it was well worth The price in December 2021. Does this card compare to 40 generation like 3070 did?

RadioJoNES · Mar 30, 2023

Can't tell if it's better to go for this card for the DLSS and cheaper price or just get a 7900 XTX for the much higher VRAM and not have to be worried about it.

Sharingan9092 · Mar 30, 2023

You can still buy a PS5 digital + a Switch lite with the same amount of money. Hard pass

AmFreak · Mar 30, 2023

Shockingly, Pc market remains completely fucked.

Bowl0l · Mar 30, 2023

1-D_FE said:
4060 ti is going to be a real POS. 8GB RAM on a 128bit bus. And probably 500 dollars to boot.

I'm assuming there's a typo in there somewhere. This card is literally going to be 3070 performance (and might lose in certain scenarios).

Incoming $400 RTX 4050 that can only match RTX 3050 but consumers buy it because of DLSS 3.0

Linus815 · Mar 30, 2023

thats actually lower than i expected, lol

Deleted member 93062 · Mar 30, 2023

I really hope Nvidia sees the writing on the wall and with 5000 series they just focus on efficiency and bringing cost down. Like even if next gen isn't a massive leap in performance, I think it would be much more successful if they just focus on achieving around the same performance as 4000 series at a cheaper price.

cgpartlow · Mar 30, 2023

Well my 2070 super was $550 new, so I guess this is closer to normal? I feel like the whole 40xx series is kind of a dud though compared to the 30xx series

OtakuCoder · Mar 30, 2023

I play at 1440p and have a 2070 Super so I'm feeling like this might be the one.

McStickenstein · Mar 30, 2023

Not a bad price all things considered if true. My RX 480 8GB is like moldy cheese at this point. I do have a 3070 laptop that works well enough so I'm sitting out until 5000 series. Hoping price/$ will be better by then (it probably won't).

SmartWaffles · Mar 30, 2023

3070 was 499 MSRP, adjusted for inflation it would be ~$580 today so this doesnt look bad, I guess.

Dance Inferno · Mar 30, 2023

I've been out of the PC game for a while, are there any decent cards that can be had for $200-400? I remember the last time I built a PC I did the whole thing for $800 in 2014 and it's still running today. Seems like this GPU would cost the same as my last PC and that seems ridiculous.

hey it's that dog · Mar 30, 2023

This is very likely the gpu that I will hold my nose and drop 800+ fucking canadian dollars on. :/

Dolce · Mar 30, 2023

brain_stew said:
The 3070 was $500 while massively skimping on VRAM. Given the level of inflation over the last 2 years, this has to be the best case scenario for pricing. Pricing at the same tier was never going to be static. A $100 increase is reasonable especially considering the x80 got a $500 increase.

Expecting a $500 price was a complete fantasy.

well now we know why the upper end was so high, you can justify anything when comparing to that.

brain_stew said:
That's kind of how inflation works.

sure but nothing is in a vacuum. while GPU prices have been skyrocketing, the PS3, 4 and 5 all launched within the 400-600 dollar price range. a PS5 digital is 400 bucks right now.

and people definitely cross shop these things.

Deleted member 16908 · Mar 30, 2023

Dance Inferno said:
I've been out of the PC game for a while, are there any decent cards that can be had for $200-400? I remember the last time I built a PC I did the whole thing for $800 in 2014 and it's still running today. Seems like this GPU would cost the same as my last PC and that seems ridiculous.

Plenty of options on the used market, especially if you're willing to consider AMD.

Saladin · Mar 30, 2023

Lul. Fucking Nvidia
Waiting for AMD to actually step up so Nvidia stops this bollocks

Dance Inferno · Mar 30, 2023

Robinson said:
Plenty of options on the used market, especially if you're willing to consider AMD.

Oh I don't know if I trust used cards. Hard to tell how hard they've been used. I don't mind AMD though, my current rig has an RX 580.

knack2bae · Mar 30, 2023

nsilvias said:
someone make an nvidia version of that infamous ps3 599 meme please

Price:

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Sauces: https://www.techpowerup.com/306631/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-priced-at-usd-600

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 Ti Detailed Specs Sheet Leaks

It turns out that NVIDIA has not one, but two new GeForce RTX 40-series "Ada" SKUs on the anvil this January. One of these is the RTX 4070 Ti, which we know well to be a rebranding of the RTX 4080 12 GB in the face of backlash that forced NVIDIA to "unlaunch" it. The other as it turns out, is...

www.techpowerup.com

This article is 3 months old.

brain_stew · Mar 30, 2023

Dance Inferno said:
I've been out of the PC game for a while, are there any decent cards that can be had for $200-400? I remember the last time I built a PC I did the whole thing for $800 in 2014 and it's still running today. Seems like this GPU would cost the same as my last PC and that seems ridiculous.

Yes, the 6700XT. It's a decent leap above the GPU in both consoles and available for $350 with 12GB VRAM

Timu · Mar 30, 2023

brain_stew said:
Yes, the 6700XT. It's a decent leap above the GPU in both consoles and available for $350 with 12GB VRAM

It honestly might be my next gpu unless the RX 7700 XT brings something to the table.

delete12345 · Mar 30, 2023

Mattmo831 said:
Pc gaming pricing me out I'm afraid to say. Havnt touched my pc in a while for gaming anyways..: been using steam deck and consoles. This price just a few years ago would have got you the best GPU on the market… what the fuck happened

COVID-19, war and currency inflation happened.

writhingcorpse897 · Mar 30, 2023

If you have a 30xx card, is there even a need to upgrade? Not like it even matters considering the current state of PC ports.

Bowl0l · Mar 30, 2023

Timu said:
It honestly might be my next gpu unless the RX 7700 XT brings something to the table.

7700 XTX: A massive price increase but less VRAM and up to DLSS 2.0 competitor.

brain_stew · Mar 30, 2023

RadioJoNES said:
Can't tell if it's better to go for this card for the DLSS and cheaper price or just get a 7900 XTX for the much higher VRAM and not have to be worried about it.

They're entirely different price categories. You should be cross shopping the 7900 XTX with the 4080 not the 4070.

AmFreak · Mar 30, 2023

delete12345 said:
COVID-19, war and currency inflation happened.

Huge margins also happened.

Timu · Mar 30, 2023

Dance Inferno said:
Oh I don't know if I trust used cards. Hard to tell how hard they've been used. I don't mind AMD though, my current rig has an RX 580.

For used just avoid ones being mined on and plus I wouldn't worry about condition as much since these used cards came out in 2020-2021 so there's still a lot of life to them.

Bowl0l said:
7700 XTX: A massive price increase but less VRAM and up to DLSS 2.0 competitor.

Lol, that would be the worst outcome.

brain_stew · Mar 30, 2023

Dance Inferno said:
Oh I don't know if I trust used cards. Hard to tell how hard they've been used. I don't mind AMD though, my current rig has an RX 580.

No need to go used. Just get the 6700XT. It's a 2.5x upgrade over your current RX 580 and can be had new for $350. It's a great card for the money.

JahIthBer · Mar 30, 2023

Least it has 12GB. Nvidia trying to sell the 4060 for $500 with 8GB's is going to be the real spicy meme.

nsilvias · Mar 30, 2023

knack2bae said:
This article is 3 months old.

theres two links. the price one is new. the specs one is old but referenced in the new article.

dgrdsv · Mar 30, 2023

JahIthBer said:
Least it has 12GB. Nvidia trying to sell the 4060 for $500 with 8GB's is going to be the real spicy meme.

4060 will be ~350.
4060Ti though...

AllBizness · Mar 30, 2023

$600 isn't bad for a GPU that's 3x the PS5

Tremorah · Mar 30, 2023

4060Ti it is then

Tsumami · Mar 30, 2023

Spork4000 said:
You won't be bottlenecked at 1080p60 on anything with that cpu and this GPU. Outside of the path tracing tech demos coming. Hell, this GPU is overkill, it's around a 3080 ti from last gen, and i used that with a 9600k and could play most games at 4k60 with normal DLSS.

brain_stew said:
You're going to be shocked at how big of an upgrade it is. Hopefully there's a founders edition and good stock of it at launch so you don't have to pay more than MSRP.

Pretty excited, hope the rumor pans out and I can snag one when it drops

hey it's that dog · Mar 30, 2023

AllBizness said:
$600 isn't bad for a GPU that's 3x the PS5

A 4080 isn't even 3x a PS5 if we accept the assumption that a PS5 is around a 5700xt. What am I missing here?

SuperHans · Mar 30, 2023

delete12345 said:
I'm still holding on with my RTX 2070 which I bought around $600.

I got my 2070 for 419 USD 2.5 years ago. If I want to spend less than 500 it's basically impossible to upgrade.

delete12345 · Mar 30, 2023

SuperHans said:
I got my 2070 for 419 USD 2.5 years ago. If I want to spend less than 500 it's basically impossible to upgrade.

I am now wondering if I shouldn't have bought this card in Taiwan.

JahIthBer · Mar 30, 2023

hey it's that dog said:
A 4080 isn't even 3x a PS5 if we accept the assumption that a PS5 is around a 5700xt. What am I missing here?

It isn't, 4070/Ti is 2x PS5/SX. Frame gen maybe is a factor, i expect Sony to 100% go hard on frame gen marketing if PS5 Pro has it/happens. So maybe we can all start BSing about numbers soon.

dgrdsv · Mar 30, 2023

hey it's that dog said:
A 4080 isn't even 3x a PS5 if we accept the assumption that a PS5 is around a 5700xt.

It kinda is though, without RT even.
But yeah 4070 is unlikely to hit 3X PS5. Closer to 2X probably.

(Rumor) RTX 4070 to be priced at $600. Mid April Release

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