Yeah 2021 sounds good to me. Hopefully I won't have to wait longer than that. I'm already craving the sequel.
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Sony PlayStation: First Party Studios |OT4| Because we're skipping 3
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Don't believe that any of the remaining PS4 exclusives would be cross-gen. Except for Little Big Planet 3, Sony simply doesn't do that. Plus, when PS5 has backwards compatibility with PS4, there's no reason for them to be cross-gen. Buy the PS4 version, download the PS5 game update and good to go.
SMH. And here I thought we were cool and on the same page. So sad now. :(
My man, there's no way that Horizon 2 launches that late. First half 2021 at the LATEST :)
Yeah, first party is meant to showcase and sell the hardware. No need to make them cross gen. Put all the effort into PS5.
A new MP game, I say.
Looking forward to Horizon Zero Dawn 2 being a BioWare style drop in drop out multiplayer RPG game.
Lmao... honestly, Mass effect 2 may be my favorite game of all time. If Horizon 2 can give me any of that smoke I'm riding with Guerilla Games forever
Yeah, I'm not terribly keen on MP in Horizon 2. If GG does implement it, I trust it will be done well without detracting from the single-player experience.
Come to think of it, Bloodborne style invasions could be fun, if not too frequent.
Come to think of it, Bloodborne style invasions could be fun, if not too frequent.
Bloodborne style drop-in/drop-out co-op against super robots would be amazing.
That is what i want with maybe some extra side quest that gear more towards that .
Worldwide Studio Games I'm expecting at launch for PS5:
New Ratchet and Clank (PS5)
Demon's Souls Remake (PS5/PS4)
Ghost of Tsushima (PS5/PS4)
Not expecting a ton of exclusives at launch because of strong 3rd party support with a new COD, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed, and Cyberpunk all also launching in Fall 2020.
New Ratchet and Clank (PS5)
Demon's Souls Remake (PS5/PS4)
Ghost of Tsushima (PS5/PS4)
Not expecting a ton of exclusives at launch because of strong 3rd party support with a new COD, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed, and Cyberpunk all also launching in Fall 2020.
Some basic co-op functionality could be cool Horizon 2, as long as it doesn't intrude on the quality of the single player experience.
Could be RE style where they give Aloy a partner character that can be controlled by AI or another player (or taken a step further and giving the option to turn them off altogether).
Could be RE style where they give Aloy a partner character that can be controlled by AI or another player (or taken a step further and giving the option to turn them off altogether).
I'm excited for Horizon 2 either way. There's a lot of potential for the sequel, and I can't wait to see what GG will do.
Is he really referencing to that strike in the recent interview? Maybe Google translation left out something but I don't see him stating more than "it's slightly delayed from the initial plan but not by much". Doesn't sound like they're back in the initial schedule.
The Conan thing sounds ok.
Would rather see online multi-player in Horizon instead of co-op simply because co-op would then be implemented into the single player campaign and as seen in Far Cry 5 and New Dawn, it simply makes the game worse. Besides, who would the second character be anyway? Two Aloy's? Hell no. That would quite simply be stupid.
But it's okay, co-op and online multi-player is what Killzone 5 will be for. :)
But it's okay, co-op and online multi-player is what Killzone 5 will be for. :)
Agree with Ratchet & Clank 2 and the third party games. Don't see GOT being cross-gen. If anything, it would simply be backwards compatible. Demon's Souls Remake is unlikely because doesn't Atlus own that IP?
Sony owns the Demon's Souls IP not Atlus. Atlus only published the PS3 version in the US because SIEA had no faith in the game. If Atlus owned it you damn well know Sega would have released a PC port on before Yakuza and Catherine. Sony has always owned the IP. Regarding Ghost of Tsushima when I list PS5/PS4 it is one version just will be available to play on both systems.
I don't think HZD2 will implement it but if HZD2 has a co-op/mp mode any chance Guerrilla takes the class elements from the Horizon Zero Dawn Board Game.
Okay. I always thought Sony passed on the game completely and was then picked up by Atlus and thus owned the IP. Kinda makes you wonder why Sony hasn't done anything with the IP since they own it and why they made a deal with From Software for Bloodborne instead of Demon's Souls 2. Very interesting to say the least.
Actually a big reason they decided to collaborate on Bloodborne is because they realized the big mistake they made on not capitalizing on Demon's Souls.
Definitely possible especially since October would be the 10 year anniversary of when it launched in NA.
True and passing on Demon's Souls was always the reason why I thought Atlus owned the IP.
Regarding Horizon, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they say they made a lot of the characters and assets so high quality originally that they could be used in future sequels? Or am I getting my wires crossed with Gran Turismo? If so I imagine that's got to help a bit in shortening dev time
I don't think the whole team was working on the Frozen Wilds. The development of HZD2 must have started right after HZD was released imo. March 2021 for HZD2 is my guess.
I kind of agree. I would most like to see them apply their experience and lessons learned from the success of HZD and the failures of the KZ series to a new IP; preferably one with a thorough campaign, full co-op, maybe some sort of built-in horde mode and multiplayer too. I know that's asking for a lot, but launching into such a competitive field with so many established brands would mean they would need to hit the floor running and offer a lot of polished content out of the box.
All that being said, I wouldn't mind a reboot of the Killzone IP. Either do a prequel set way before the events of the first game or just start anew with better writing, better level design,
You can't compare launching games two generations ago though because the market was totally different. Nowadays games are supported with patches and bug fixes for months and HZD had a substantial story DLC which launched 9 months later. I'd imagine the bulk of the studio were not able to transition to any new project until after The Frozen Wilds had launched.
If I recall correctly, From themselves published it in Japan, Sony published it in Asia, Atlus published it in North America and Namco published it in Europe.
Yes, that it widely expected. Plus, Jason Schreier hinted that he expected a Demon's remake was in development a couple of weeks ago, so that's added more fuel to the fire too.
Multi-player doesn't make a game worse by any length or stretch of the imagination. It's all in how it's implemented.
Rather have a game without a crap MP implementation tbh
They don't start on a new game when the last game hits the shelve. Even with a single team there are concept artists and writers starting on a new project probably years before the last game is shipped. Do you think they'll start Horizon 2 when they don't even know if the first one will be a succes?
Also: people hear certain things.
I'm pretty sure no one who wants multiplayer wants a crap implementation. The idea that, "Multi-player is here so it must be crap," is one of the most mind-boggingly weird complaints I've read in this OT.
What if it's good MP implementation though, like with Uncharted 2?
Only mp i need from sony is tlou 2... i cant fucking wait for that
I never said anything about that, just said that for example games like DA: I which feature a co op mode in which you either grind really hard or you pay real cash to advance further is better to not even be included.
Or even Last of Us which had one of the most surprising MP portion of a game for me last gen. I mean for me MAG was the most insane MP game I ever played outside of WOW open world PvP and EVE Online.
MAG was the tits. It just launched a few years early, sadly. Imagine if it had been an F2P game launching early this gen, and then they later patched a Battle Royale mode into it! One of the only MP games I've ever really gotten into.
Launch window:
Bloodborne 2
GT7
Horizon Second Dawn
Dreams Supercharged
But I think the launch will mostly be carried by backwards compatibility and 4k, 60FPS versions of God Of War, Spider-Man, The Last Of Us 2, Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding.
The idea of a DLC expansion recently is to give something to work on to the art team while your next game is in early stages of production. Chances are rather high that Horizon 2 (or whatever that next game is) started alongside Frozen Wilds.
It will be interesting to see what happens when the PS5 is out. Will it be like PS4 Pro and only have a faster frame rate or will they have Dreams that can be more complex and take full advantage of the extra memory and better CPU/GPU?
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