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Richardi

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Oct 28, 2017
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Okay got Lady's flashing ass censored as well and guess what I'm playing on PC, probably some setting rather than muh sony censorship.
There is going to be some crow serving in this thread for sure.
 

Treasure Silvergun

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I don't mind them shutting down pedo shit [no, not gonna call it censorship, cause it isn't] but this? This is utter bullshit. I don't mind it as much here but I'm gonna be furious if this trend is gonna carry over to other games where those scenes might be more important in the context.
This raises the question: in what situation the unobstructed view of a woman's naked body would be "important in the context" of a video game scene?

When it's so difficult to find a legitimate, unquestionable example, they're gonna keep light raying whatever they want just in case.
 

Martylepiaf

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I don't know what's more stupid, Sony censorring a butt or people who are mad because Sony censored a butt and don't want to play the game on PS4 to see it.
 

BocoDragon

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Sure, and public backlash is the reason they aren't that way today. Which is why we need to let Sony know that what they are doing here is not cool. At all.
I think we can single-handedly thank Mortal Kombat 1 for blowing Nintendo's content policy to smithereens. Having a direct comparison between the SNES and Genesis versions hit Nintendo where it counts (the pocketbook). No one wanted the Nintendo version without blood. Forever after they seemed reasonably hands-off about restricting content.

I don't think DMC5 is the game to really spotlight the backwardness of Sony's policy (the censorship is minor)... but if Sony are insistent on this policy, it's only a matter of time before there is a high-profile game that has a core aspect censored on Playstation but not Xbox.

I can almost hear Rockstar cooking up a scene to play this out in GTA6.... the publicity would be huge...
 

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Gotta love showing graphic violence but an unsexualized butt is too far.
 

Dre3001

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I'm actually worried on the precedent this may set moving forward more than the actual ass in DMC5.

Sure it makes for a good laugh, but what will happen down the road with other games?

If Sony has an issue with this out of all things than I imagine it could get much worse over time.
 

Necromorph

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TheSyldat

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I don't know what's more stupid, Sony censorring a butt or people who are mad because Sony censored a butt and don't want to play the game on PS4 to see it.
This just this ...
Also like it has been said SCE World has seen this generation a huge spike in popularity in countries with huge muslim population or even a majority muslim population . And well they are just straight up more anal about those things than we are .
And at the risk of repeating myself being a console platform holder isn't the same as being a PC distribution platform ...
Sony is just making dead sure there is as little friction with those new markets for them as possibly doable . They may be overbearing but so too was Nintendo America in its infancy ...
Seriously do we need to go over statues differences in Castlevania and Maniac Mansion on the NES ???
And yet look at Nintendo World these days they are faaaarrr more relaxed and know damn well what will and will not fly and plan accordingly ...

TLDR : You guys are turning a tiny little mouse into the litteral description of Helm's Deep calm yer tits will ya ...
 

cyba89

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Sony Playstation 4 - where realistic extreme violence in Last Of Us 2 is shown without a disclaimer but a buttcrack is a no-no.
 

NCLI

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I don't mind them shutting down pedo shit [no, not gonna call it censorship, cause it isn't] but this? This is utter bullshit. I don't mind it as much here but I'm gonna be furious if this trend is gonna carry over to other games where those scenes might be more important in the context.
Agreeing with censorship doesn't make it not censorship. Preventing people from torturing kittens, or performing other crimes, on live TV is also censorship, just censorship I happen to agree with.
Oxford dictionary said:
censorship

NOUN
mass noun
1. The suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.
 

Pancracio17

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How is a game like Cyberpunk going to deal with this policy change if stuff like this gets censored.
 

Remember

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It's the classroom screw up mentality. One kid in the class screws up and doesn't do what the teacher asked, and the whole class suffers because of it. The rest of the class are the EU and NA regions.
 

Gold Arsene

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This just this ...
Also like it has been said SCE World has seen this generation a huge spike in popularity in countries with huge muslim population or even a majority muslim population . And well they are just straight up more anal about those things than we are .
And at the risk of repeating myself being a console platform holder isn't the same as being a PC distribution platform ...
Sony is just making dead sure there is as little friction with those new markets for them as possibly doable . They may be overbearing but so too was Nintendo America in its infancy ...
Seriously do we need to go over statues differences in Castlevania and Maniac Mansion on the NES ???
And yet look at Nintendo World these days they are faaaarrr more relaxed and know damn well what will and will not fly and plan accordingly ...

TLDR : You guys are turning a tiny little mouse into the litteral description of Helm's Deep calm yer tits will ya ...
Man Sony must be really fucking stupid then if they've been at this for 25 years and still don't know how to adjust for different regions without unnecessary censorship in the western release.
 

Richardi

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No the very first scene you "rescue" Lady I think.
I honestly didn't check the setting, I used the default ones.
Then it wasn't the same scene, in this one Lady quite literally flashes Nico, and a ray of light enters from the Van's window to strategically cover her buttcrack.
Reminder that I have all film effects turned on, normally its the first thing I turn off, but not for this game.
 

NCLI

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I don't know what's more stupid, Sony censorring a butt or people who are mad because Sony censored a butt and don't want to play the game on PS4 to see it.
It's not just about Sony censoring a butt, it's about them imposing some kind of moral judgment on what they allow onto their platform. It's their right mind you, I just don't want to support that kind of toxic behavior.

If it's legal, it should be allowed. Last time I checked, there was no law preventing adults from ogling CG imagery resembling nude adults in the US, or EU.
 
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End of the day this was unnecessary trashy fan service

This's point I feel is if you have to add this stuff to a game you either censor all or none
 

Adamska

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Man, look at all the outrage over a gratuitous butt shot that's been made kind of hard to see by a light ray or something. This is such a non-issue that I'm amazed people actually took the time to document and analyze it between all platforms/regions. If anything, they should apply the effects to every version, not every game has to trade on imagery that objectifies women.
 

Scarlet Spider

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I just don't understand the reasoning. They're both adults. There was nothing sexual about rescuing friends who were being used. I guess children need to be considered when playing 18+ games, cause God forbid they decide they want to play another gorey game. Next gen will be PC/Nintendo for me.
 

TheSyldat

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It's the classroom screw up mentality. One kid in the class screws up and doesn't do what the teacher asked, and the whole class suffers because of it. The rest of the class are the EU and NA regions.
And when I was a kid like I said it was Nintendo doing it , and being overbearing and I didn't die out of it ...
Heck that censorship of back then made gamers of my age give a damn to play versions available in other countries on emulator just to see the differences ...
Once again you might think that Sony is overbearing but until their sudden popularity in more muslim conservative countries is sorted out and Sony feels a bit more comfortable yes it will mean that sometimes Sony will be preventively slam on the brakes.
Nintendo did it during NES and SNES years and we're not dead and we're still here talking video games in 2019 ...
 

tyfon

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Okay got Lady's flashing ass censored as well and guess what I'm playing on PC, probably some setting rather than muh sony censorship.
There is going to be some crow serving in this thread for sure.

Yeah that's what's really weird here.
Most of these scenes are censored on PC too, it's just this one that is not.
 

NCLI

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End of the day this was unnecessary trashy fan service

This's point I feel is if you have to add this stuff to a game you either censor all or none
Man, look at all the outrage over a gratuitous butt shot that's been made kind of hard to see by a light ray or something. This is such a non-issue that I'm amazed people actually took the time to document and analyze it between all platforms/regions. If anything, they should apply the effects to every version, not every game has to trade on imagery that objectifies women.
Or maybe leave it up to the consumer to decide if they want to see it?

I mean, not buying the game is an option if "trashy fanservice" is such a concern to people. It's not like there aren't hours of gameplay on youtube you could use to make yourself aware of this kind of stuff in advance. Even if you want to avoid spoilers, there's a clear age labeling, which includes the reasoning behind it, such as the inclusion of nudity, right on the box.
 

thepenguin55

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This shit kind of happened to network television in the US about 10-15 years ago. I can remember The Simpson's showing ass crack all the time and while you could certainly argue that those jokes were lazy ones the only reason they went away was because they literally couldn't do them anymore. A cartoon ass crack was considered too lewd for television! I'm not even talking about showing a full ass like Family Guy used to do (I think they still do that but blur it on network TV), just the crack. lol.
There's apparently no room for nuance in Sony's censorship. Trish's ass crack is apparently no different from a sleazy style visual novel. What is it about a console manufacturer being in the #1 spot makes them feel like they can call the shots with stuff like this or with other dumb shit? I guess it's a good thing MS is poised to take over next gen as Sony will probably back off of some of this when they're behind everyone else but I'm sure if/when MS does take over in the next gen they'll come up with some new dumb shit of their own that all 3rd parties have to follow.
 

Eolz

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I'm actually worried on the precedent this may set moving forward more than the actual ass in DMC5.

Sure it makes for a good laugh, but what will happen down the road with other games?

If Sony has an issue with this out of all things than I imagine it could get much worse over time.
The precedent of Sony ignoring rating boards was months ago but most people ignored it because it was games they didn't care about.
 

Remember

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Once again you might think that Sony is overbearing but until their sudden popularity in more muslim conservative countries is sorted out and Sony feels a bit more comfortable yes it will mean that sometimes Sony will be preventively slam on the brakes.

This is the classic Nintendo mistake of working in a bubble. You censor the game for all due to one market, yet act like those same people can't do a quick browser search and find out that this really isn't censored anywhere else, even on a competitor console. I was really happy when the old guard left Nintendo and we had people like Reggie come in who actually acknowledged the fact that other consoles actually exist out there.
 

liquidtmd

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Oct 28, 2017
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Violence being perfectly fine yet minor depictions of female adult age nudity being censored is unhealthy and should absolutely be called out.

This is an 18+ rated product. If people do not approve of such instances of legal nudity, it should be on them to complain to Sony - not have Sony censor it for all

I'm so tired of the gaming and movie industry collectively handwaving violence through en mass without this kind of scrutiny or artistic debate.
 

Gold Arsene

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Oct 27, 2017
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And when I was a kid like I said it was Nintendo doing it , and being overbearing and I didn't die out of it ...
Heck that censorship of back then made gamers of my age give a damn to play versions available in other countries on emulator just to see the differences ...
Once again you might think that Sony is overbearing but until their sudden popularity in more muslim conservative countries is sorted out and Sony feels a bit more comfortable yes it will mean that sometimes Sony will be preventively slam on the brakes.
Nintendo did it during NES and SNES years and we're not dead and we're still here talking video games in 2019 ...
Nintendo was widely derided and(justifiably) mocked for it.

And your continued use of Muslim countries to try and justify this is just bizarre. What does another countries standards have to do with the US release? Because again if Sony can't figure out how to release a version more adapt for that region, solely in that region, then they must've be completely incompetent despite being in this industry for over two decades.


Edit:That last part was dumb and uncalled for so I apologize. I should argue without using such comparisons so I deleted the offending part.
 
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Violence being perfectly fine yet minor depictions of female adult age nudity being censored is unhealthy and should absolutely be called out.

This is an 18+ rated product. If people do not approve of such instances of legal nudity, it should be on them to complain to Sony - not have Sony censor it for all

I'm so tired of the gaming and movie industry collectively handwaving violence through en mass without this kind of scrutiny or artistic debate.

I love it when folks only bring up violence in response to sexualized designs. It's great. And telling.


Someone should tell Naughty Dog get rid of all those gay relation ships they keep adding.


WOULDNT

Nintendo was widely derided and(justifiably) mocked for it.

And your continued use of Muslim countries to try and justify this is just bizarre. What does another countries standards have to do with the US release? Because again if Sony can't figure out how to release a version more adapt for that region, solely in that region, then they must've be completely incompetent despite being in this industry for over two decades.

I hope you'd be just as willing to use this defense if they removed the gay relationships in The Last of Us Part II to appease Russia.

What the fuck? Did you take one minor scene change, despite everything else being "censored" on all platforms, and immediately jump to this?

What the fuck is actually wrong with you people?
 

snausages

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Man, look at all the outrage over a gratuitous butt shot that's been made kind of hard to see by a light ray or something. This is such a non-issue that I'm amazed people actually took the time to document and analyze it between all platforms/regions. If anything, they should apply the effects to every version, not every game has to trade on imagery that objectifies women.
It's not about this DMC scene tho, it's about what precedent might be set for other games with nudity in them

The DMC scene is lame and diminishing of what used to be a cool character, but does this mean that games which deal with sex more tastefully than Devil May Cry are going to get the same treatment? Because that wouldn't be good.
 

TheSyldat

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This is the classic Nintendo mistake of working in a bubble. You censor the game for all due to one market, yet act like those same people can't do a quick browser search and find out that this really isn't censored anywhere else, even on a competitor console. I was really happy when the old guard left Nintendo and we had people like Reggie come in who actually acknowledged the fact that other consoles actually exist out there.
Except that in those markets in question XBOX hasn't been trounced , they litteraly are barely a blip on the radar that's what you don't get , PS4 in Morroco / Algeria / Lebanon / UAE , isn't the market leader of the console market they ARE the market period this generation ...
And well that has putten them in a very uncomfortable spotlight .
Again they will be overbearing for a while then they will calm down ...
This doomsday tone from everybody in this thread is beyond ridiculous ...
 

HardRojo

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And yeah, it's pretty funny to see the "it'll only happen to anime games with underage looking characters" argument proven wrong.
This is only funny for the weirdos who were mad about their little girls porn being censored in the first place, so if you find this funny then... well... geez.
 

WrenchNinja

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I've been saying for years that the decision to censor media should be up to to elected officials, and that publishers/platform holders should stay out of it. It started out with the kinds of fanservice most unpopular in the US, but look at where we are now...
Some of you are losing your minds over not seeing a butt clearly in a video game. That's where we are now.
 
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