If they are going to cast Spock, I am guessing we will get an announcement soon since we know who Pike will be now
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Star Trek Discovery |OT| To Boldly go into the new streaming era
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Photos from the 2019 Star Trek Calendar have a better look at Discovery's Enterprise.
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/983144522984062976
With hair and makeup that's a pretty great likeness.
On point, both those bits of news. Confirmed we will be getting a couple of episodes with the Enterprise crew then, and it won't just be a tease.
I'm also with those who think Spock should sit Discovery out, or at least not cast Quinto. Nothing against Quinto, but I agree it would be confusing to have him in both universe, although there's not reason he shouldn't look the same.
Can't wait for Season 2.
Nah, The Cage is 2254, Discovery is 2256 and Star Trek 2009 is 2258. Although I guess the actor will have aged a decade in real life by now.
Really like the show but I'm nervous about the introduction of the Enterprise. The writers say that this is the prime universe and they know what they are doing but butting up against the original can cause too many problems. Hell my only real gripe with Discovery is Sarek behaved out of character on numerous occasions.
Lt. Kirk doing his first internship on the Enterprise or Discovery, because that seems to be what the show wants to do with all these cameos. :p
Kirk is on the Farragut(spell?) at this time, so i doubt he would show up in Disco.
This photo never fails to amuse me, like half of them don't have enough lines in the show to probably get paid beyond scale, or even have it count towards getting a SAG card.
You mean to tell me the Klingons can completely transform a Klingon into a human, transfer a human psyche into said body, and the Federation/Starfleet can't fix some burn scarring?
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I saw William Sadler in the first season of The Flash a few years ago. He could still theoretically come onto Discovery to play a long lost distant relative.
Yeah the lack of development for most of the bridge crew compared to most previous Treks was disappointing.
Hopefully they get more screen time next season.
There is a lot of development, see how many have died already!
It is a bit strange that in a series that puts so much emphasis on personality rather than larger scale questions and politics (which to me is a bad choice, but a respectable anyway, because this is quite popular right now), almost no work is done to develop the characters outside a very narrow primary cast.
I think there is an element of it that makes sense. Have a more direct first season, get people interested then take time to explore the cast later. People don't hang around to watch a whole series of slower paced character development in a first series as much as they did when say TNG aired.
I don't buy that. It just seems they convinced themselves this was Michael's story and every other character was/is secondary. I think what we need are B plots or something, because a lot of the time when there was a captain focused episode there was still development for the crew in some other plot.
I believe one of the showrunners (or writers) hinted in that direction when interviewed at a recent con, just can't find the article at the moment :(
It made sense though since the focus unlike past shows wasn't on the bridge crew. It was focused on the circle around Michael. Since she's now on the bridge that can change. I think it was a more organic approach. I think people also forget that the cast is now smaller thus allowing for them to play more of a role.
I would argue that it isn't out of line for us to not know that much about the bridge crew. Think back to the bridge of the Enterprise in TNG. There are about a dozen people on that bridge. We know and focus on Picard, Riker, Troi, Data, and Worf. Once in a while LaForge and Crusher would be there. Same with Wesley and that's usually to replace one of the others. However there were only 5 that were the focus and had any speaking lines on the regular. In Discovery we had Lorca, Burnham, Tyler, and Saru. We go back and forth to Stamets and Tilly in engineering (would be LaForge in TNG or Scotty in TOS). TOS was the Kirk, Spock, and McCoy show when he was on the bridge. Everyone else had a line or two an episode, maybe. People forget it wasn't really until the film that Uhura, Sulu, and Checkov got a lot of focus. They got popular cause they were constantly there.
The balance really isn't that much different compared to other shows. Voyager and Enterprise are the shows where all of the main cast are pretty much the entire bridge crew I think.
DS9 is in its own category I think because the cast is so big. However it takes the entire series for all the characters to get their due I think. Nog and his father for example are a non-factor for a significant chunk of the show from what I remember and they were there day 1. Been a while since I've seen season 1 (going to be doing a rewatch in a few weeks) I think the first season is what mainly focused on Sisko, Kira, O'Brian, and Quark.
Yeah the shorter seasons are going to make this more of an issue. This why I'm in favor of two or three episodes dropped in the off season (filmed during the season of course) that just focused on some characters. Events through their eyes. So we at least get some content between seasons.
I mean, just going by cast photos, what all the shows consider principle characters are about the same, with TNG actually having less principles than Discovery once you get past the seasons with Wesley. Counting ancillary or recurring characters is a wash because those will always be there for antogonists and the like when there isn't a revealed obvious constant antogonist. I mean, I don't mind the format, just don't parade these people in front as principles when they obviously are not. I really hope the robot woman doesn't sit in makeup for four hours everyday for the amount of screen time she gets.
I watched the episode of the original series where Sarek first appears and it's said he and Spock haven't spoken for eighteen years by then. Sarek had seemingly never forgiven Spock for joining the Federation until the events of the original series, no doubt complicated further by the new canon that Michael could have joined the Vulcans instead.
Makes me wonder if Sarek is just going to avoid Spock the whole time since this is a good ten years before they make up. Curious how Michael will react to Spock too, now she knows Sarek chose him over her and both ended up with the Federation anyway.
Makes me wonder if Sarek is just going to avoid Spock the whole time since this is a good ten years before they make up. Curious how Michael will react to Spock too, now she knows Sarek chose him over her and both ended up with the Federation anyway.
I love the lighting in AbramsTrek. The design in general just really grabs me. Discovery has better execution though.
Dat ginger representation
Bullshit throwaway comment. If anything they've adhered to canon beyond all expectations.
Some parts might look different visually but if you expected tinfoil and cardboard in 2017 I dunno what to tell you
I'm sure some will like this
Star Trek: Discovery has no plans to return to the Mirror Universe for season 2
Although this sounds bad
Star Trek: Discovery – What is Section 31, and how will it impact season two?
Edit: one more bit of news
Star Trek: Discovery has no plans to return to the Mirror Universe for season 2
Although this sounds bad
Star Trek: Discovery – What is Section 31, and how will it impact season two?
Edit: one more bit of news
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I like 2 of those people's characters... and the third was an overglorified extra lmao...
They've broke canon loads of times, and updating visuals (like Enterprise did) is different from introducing technology later series went of the way to make clear did not exist in TOS era or before.
Again if you think that they need to adhere to a basic vision of the future then you're cutting off their legs to spite yourself. They'd be crawling to tell stories.
Holograms didn't exist in 1966.
Women were eye candy and used only as set dressing in 1966.
You know what else happened in 1966? They painted white guys in black paint, or blackface if you will. they then called them savages and labelled them as Klingons.
In 2018 they're a more fleshed out, redesigned enemy. Do you think they should have stuck to the original design too?
Oh wait. Gene Roddenberry redesigned them for TMP. I guess retcons are fine sometimes.
It's a fricking science fiction show. If it helps pretend that you're watching TOS through a high definition lens.
Other than the redesigns have they really retcon anything?
Michael being step sister to spock isn't a retcon, it doesn't change previous canon just like Sybok didn't change previous canon because Spock never mentioned anything about his family/siblings other than his parents in TOS.
The early Holodeck stuff they showed might be a little too early except Discovery is a science ship and so they would probably have early prototypes for stuff so it's a stretch but believable enough.
The other thing I remember being mentioned is the Klingons having cloak technology but if I remember they've never clearly stated when they get it right? It was one of those EU things.
Other than that what else has Discovery really done against established canon?
Michael being step sister to spock isn't a retcon, it doesn't change previous canon just like Sybok didn't change previous canon because Spock never mentioned anything about his family/siblings other than his parents in TOS.
The early Holodeck stuff they showed might be a little too early except Discovery is a science ship and so they would probably have early prototypes for stuff so it's a stretch but believable enough.
The other thing I remember being mentioned is the Klingons having cloak technology but if I remember they've never clearly stated when they get it right? It was one of those EU things.
Other than that what else has Discovery really done against established canon?
There's a few minor details, like how in DS9 Martok mentions how - to highlight how dangerous the Breen were - even the Klingons had never considered an outright attack against Earth; the implication being that by the time the two were at active hostilities with each other, the Klingons would see that as too risky. If he'd said they had never managed to that would be a different story, but that's not the implication. Or how there were supposed to be encounters with the Klingons prior to this war, with the only explanation that can now work being that they were random raids that never led to outright hostilities because they were assumed as some assholes rather than representative of the Empire. Otherwise most of it can be stretched with some Obi-Wan level 'from a certain point of view' thinking. So while a 'holodeck' exists in Discovery, it might only run pre-existing, programmed simulations with otherwise limited capabilities - like no proper texture or smell - rather than the 'Invent pretty much anything' approach as by the time of TNG.
Klingons having a cloaking device is a huge break in canon if we are discussing the political implications of gaining and using that technology. Klingons really shoukdn't Have cloaking technology before Romulans.
Still, how the Klingons got the cloaking device is a mystery and I am convinced that will be addressed at some point.
Still, how the Klingons got the cloaking device is a mystery and I am convinced that will be addressed at some point.
Oh yeah, cloaking devices, though that one's honestly not even Discovery's canon break really. After all, the cloaking device first revealed in Balance of Terror is a romulan device, and is treated as a new and innovative technology then... even though the NX-01 had apparently been encountering several variants of them over a century beforehand.
Honestly the only way to rectify cloaking devices at this stage is vague ideas of what kind of cloaking devices they are.
Honestly the only way to rectify cloaking devices at this stage is vague ideas of what kind of cloaking devices they are.
Ohh also in TAS, Enterprise did have a recreation room which employed Holo tech, so the early tech was already around by that time.
Honestly none of this stuff seems all that important in regards to prime canon.
Honestly none of this stuff seems all that important in regards to prime canon.