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Stock Market Era |OT3| Nobody expects the Spanish Inflation!

How will APPLE open tomorrow?

  • Up >= 4%

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Up < 4%

    Votes: 7 46.7%

  • Down < 4%

    Votes: 5 33.3%

  • Down >= 4%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
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reKon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Had a feeling that this might happen.

TSMC can go down 10% over a 24 hour period from only giving similar guidance to what they provided earlier in the year which shows growth from strong demand during 2024 and through 2025.

TSLA doesn't beat estimates, details the short term challenges, but confirms cheaper models are in the mix...so Yay up 10%! (OK I know it hasn't been 24 hours yet but still)
 
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Sheepinator

Sheepinator

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Jul 25, 2018
28,097
reKon said:
TSLA doesn't beat estimates, details the short term challenges, but confirms cheaper models are in the mix...so Yay up 10%! (OK I know it hasn't been 24 hours yet but still)
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Sure, but even at nearly 10% up after hours, that only takes it back to the previous 52-week low, and it's still down nearly 50% from July 2023, and nearly 40% from EOY 2023.

I read that short interest had surged in TSLA recently.
 
HTupolev

HTupolev

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sheepinator said:
Sure, but even at nearly 10% up after hours, that only takes it back to the previous 52-week low, and it's still down nearly 50% from July 2023, and nearly 40% from EOY 2023.
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Yeah, the current after-hour numbers are still down over 10% from where TSLA was just two weeks ago.

TSLA is up on those earnings because sentiment and expectations have been rancid.
 
FlexMentallo

FlexMentallo

The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
1,003
Los Angeles
Login after close, expecting pain, TSLA back up 13%. I am not Mengy tier but I have a decent TSLA holding in my taxable account. TSLA & APPL are my only individual stocks these days and are about half my holdings, the rest is VOO, VXUS and emergency money in SGOV. That keeps me grounded when TSLA is doing its usual crazy shit.
 
Mengy

Mengy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,458
Well that was honestly one of the best Tesla earnings calls I've ever heard, and I've listened to every one of them for a great many years now. Elon didn't do or say anything stupid, they finally improved the audio quality of the call, all of the questions were pretty good and even answered well, everyone was on point and got right to it, and everyone on the team was extremely confident.

That was a damn breath of fresh air when it comes to Tesla earnings calls. I'm legit surprised.
 
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Lunchbox-

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Nov 2, 2017
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Mengy said:
Well that was honestly one of the best Tesla earnings calls I've ever heard, and I've listened to every one of them for a great many years now. Elon didn't do or say anything stupid, they finally improved the audio quality of the call, all of the questions were pretty good and even answered well, everyone was on point and got right to it, and everyone on the team was extremely confident.

That was a damn breath of fresh air when it comes to Tesla earnings calls. I'm legit surprised.
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Lunchbox- said:
up 3% today, and expectations are basically in the gutter for earnings so they don't have to say much for a spike. there could be some surprises this afternoon. lots of institutional buying on fidelity as well.

…..or it could tank even more 🤷‍♂️
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told you to keep the faith this morning and you were out there panicking

i'm always right on the first part of my 2 part predictions. ignore the second parts
 
Mengy

Mengy

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Oct 25, 2017
5,458
Lunchbox- said:
told you to keep the faith this morning and you were out there panicking

i'm always right on the first part of my 2 part predictions. ignore the second parts
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Meh I wasn't really panicking, my shares are staying put no matter what happens over the next few years. I did expect a terrible Q1 and call though, happy to see I was very wrong!
 
Tom Penny

Tom Penny

Member
Oct 26, 2017
19,349
I knew I should be piling into SMH. That's going to be the super growth index fund the next 5-10 years. Book it.
 
Lunchbox-

Lunchbox-

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Nov 2, 2017
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arm up, amd up, tesla up

sun shines brighter, air smells fresher, even water tastes sweeter somehow when you wake up 10% higher 🙌

complete the comeback tim cook
 

Deleted member 50498

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Dec 6, 2018
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I nabbed some Meta shares in AH because it was too tempting.

  • Revenue: $36.46B (up 27% YoY)
  • Operating margin: 38%
  • Income from operations: $13.8B (up 91% YoY)

3% off in Q2 guidance, and the market reacts like that?!

Ok, I'll buy some shares. 🤷‍♂
 
FTF

FTF

Member
Oct 28, 2017
28,543
New York
Chaos-Theory said:
I nabbed some Meta shares in AH because it was too tempting.

  • Revenue: $36.46B (up 27% YoY)
  • Operating margin: 38%
  • Income from operations: $13.8B (up 91% YoY)

3% off in Q2 guidance, and the market reacts like that?!

Ok, I'll buy some shares. 🤷‍♂
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Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's almost like it doesn't matter and there's just always a dump and pump now after every earnings calls for some of these companies recently. (Netflix, Meta, etc.). And opposite for Tesla makes little sense either.
 

2pac_71

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,523
Whoa it down almost 20% all of a sudden at $403. What happened It was down only 12%. something on the call must have spooked people.?
 
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Sheepinator

Sheepinator

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Jul 25, 2018
28,097
2pac_71 said:
Whoa it down almost 20% all of a sudden at $403. What happened It was down only 12%. something on the call must have spooked people.?
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Who knows, but also, closing that gap from last earnings.

tJvOjEzz
 
Nesotenso

Nesotenso

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,074
looks like market didn't like the lowered guidance from META. Also reality labs still doesn't make money for them.
 
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Sheepinator

Sheepinator

Member
Jul 25, 2018
28,097
CMG going up after earnings. Why can't big tech companies get the high valuations enjoyed by restaurant and retail chains?
 

reKon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,791
More dumb shit. Investors are stupid. TSLA still remained up relatively after 24 hours btw. Just amazing.
 

Deleted member 50498

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Dec 6, 2018
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Yea, watching CNBC right now, and billionaire, Ron Baron is pumping Tesla to no end.

He is adamant that Tesla will have billions in revenue from millions of robotaxis in 2–3 years.

This is the reason why Tesla is an extreme outlier, too many people are drinking the Kool-Aid.

It's so easy to be bullish on Tesla when you bought $400 million worth of stock in 2016 when the share price was <$16.
 
CubeApple76

CubeApple76

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Jan 20, 2021
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I just don't get the discounting of current earnings and overemphasizing guidance. Guidance can change especially if it's based on pie in the sky stuff like robots.

NFLX/META - beat on top and bottom, huge growth, slight pullback on guidance = down 10%+.

TSLA - Misses all over the place stagnating growth. Guides higher based on a bunch of future stuff that may or may not pan out. Up 10%.

Make it make sense.

Hey for me at least nice buy point for META.
 

Deleted member 50498

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CubeApple76 said:
I just don't get the discounting of current earnings and overemphasizing guidance. Guidance can change especially if it's based on pie in the sky stuff like robots.

NFLX/META - beat on top and bottom, huge growth, slight pullback on guidance = down 10%+.

TSLA - Misses all over the place stagnating growth. Guides higher based on a bunch of future stuff that may or may not pan out. Up 10%.

Make it make sense.

Hey for me at least nice buy point for META.
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TSLA:

Total automotive revenues: $17.3B (-13% YoY)
Total revenues: $21.3B (-9 YoY)
Operating margin: 5.5% (-592 bp YoY)
Net cash provided by operating activities: $242 Million (-90% YoY)
Free cash flow: -$2.53B (-674% YoY)

The highlighted shows Tesla is a car company with operating margins typical for the automobile industry. Guidance for Tesla gets a far different reaction from the guidance of other companies.

Oh look at that, futures are dumping. QQQ down 1.43%, VOO down 1%.
 
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