Super Mario Mafia |OT| What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Smaller

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

You went for "oh well" votes that you were never convinced of, allowing Coolest to continue even though you knew Coolest's methods were detrimental and that they'd continue to run discussions, and yet you intend on doing this for a 3rd day. Admit it, Nat. You've been poking around all over the place except the most obvious spot, like some kind of demented game of musical chairs

Vote: Coolestspot

Natiko · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
Nat your whole deal was that there was nothing on the town Uzzy side but you skipped out on participating in that entire discussion and didn't come back until Coolest got replaced with launchpad to be like "nah Uzzy was cool all along!"

Also are you gonna answer my question on why you think Coolest is town?

I already shared my read and reasons on why I lean Town on Coolest:

Natiko said:
Launch
Uzzy
Coolest

No, my reason for not suspecting Coolest is simple - he has not played in a way that served to protect himself. Why self-vote when he was close to majority? Why push Launch instead of just staying pat on Uzzy, the easier wagon you push? If Coolest is scum that means he's being hung out to dry and bussed hard, because the only people who have gone to bat for him are Maol (flipped town) and me. You're sitting here arguing that I'm somehow deflecting, yet you're the one that hasn't presented a real argument as to why Coolest is scum.

Where's your analysis on why Coolest is scum? Where's that reads list you said you'd have in 20 minutes?

Z-Beat said:
What is it with you using your post count as a badge while simultaneously using it as an excuse to say why you suddenly trusted uzzy?

I'm responding to the weak ass accusations you two come up with. I was busy for a stretch of time, oh no, how horrible. Doesn't mean I was inactive, nor does it mean there was nothing that happened to lead to a shift in my reads.

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

Natiko said:
I'm responding to the weak ass accusations you two come up with. I was busy for a stretch of time, oh no, how horrible. Doesn't mean I was inactive, nor does it mean there was nothing that happened to lead to a shift in my reads.

Are you going

To answer

The question

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

I specifically said tell me why Coolest is TOWN, not why Coolest isn't scum

Natiko said:
Where's your analysis on why Coolest is scum? Where's that reads list you said you'd have in 20 minutes?

Floating in the ether while I have this damn roundabout

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

Natiko said:
When I had more posts than both you and Z-Beat yesterday.

I am talking end of day at the critical moment the votes where happening and you know it.

you were active all day then when things got dicey for coolest and I pushed you to throw a vote on him you did not respond to me until atfer the tie became definitively Uzzy and Luanch. (you thought he was town but he was less town than the other two option by your own admission)

if you really thought they were all town and coolest the lowest on that list why not tie the vote forcing someone to break the tie giving us data on that voter

I don't think you wanted coolest fate left to chance.

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
I'm still on the coolest murder wagon

A POLICY MURDER THIS LATE IN GAME?

IM ON ROAD TRIP AND CHECKING IN, BUT...WHAT THE FUCK

Natiko · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
I specifically said tell me why Coolest is TOWN, not why Coolest isn't scum

Floating in the ether while I have this damn roundabout

Is town = is not scum. They literally mean the same thing. I think Coolest is likely town because:

Natiko said:
No, my reason for town reading Coolest is simple - he has not played in a way that served to protect himself. Why self-vote when he was close to majority? Why push Launch instead of just staying pat on Uzzy, the easier wagon you push? Coolest is probably town because he's being hung out to dry and voted a lot, because the only people who have gone to bat for him are Maol (flipped town) and me.

Holy shit I just flipped some words and made minor tweaks and it all still means the same thing!

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

Launchpad seems to be in a constant state of people wanting him dead but not having enough to destroy his town cred so he's at top town

I don't have much to say for Vere so he's next up

Brazil's on and off and is pinging null for me

jman I initially assumed was new and seems to be putting in effort but I question whether or not I'm being played with the whole deal with Nat. At the same time he's been in on Coolest as well so that's the determining factor

Nat you going to bat for Coolest so hard is irking me so you're here

and finally if we'd killed Coolest earlier none of this would've happened

Natiko said:
Is town = is not scum. They literally mean the same thing. I think Coolest is likely town because:

You're going is not scum = town, which is inherently not true in this game.

CoolestSpot said:
A POLICY MURDER THIS LATE IN GAME?

IM ON ROAD TRIP AND CHECKING IN, BUT...WHAT THE FUCK

It stopped being policy a long time ago. In fact it's policy because of what's happening RIGHT NOW

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
I specifically said tell me why Coolest is TOWN, not why Coolest isn't scum

I mean the one natural role has been used up so...

Z-Beat if you're town baby, please, try using your mind and heart to guide you here. And here I thought me trying to get Jman to split a vote for two leads for town to go into today was helpful.

Natiko · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
I am talking end of day at the critical moment the votes where happening and you know it.

you were active all day then when things got dicey for coolest and I pushed you to throw a vote on him you did not respond to me until atfer the tie became definitively Uzzy and Luanch. (you thought he was town but he was less town than the other two option by your own admission)

if you really thought they were all town and coolest the lowest on that list why not tie the vote forcing someone to break the tie giving us data on that voter

I don't think you wanted coolest fate left to chance.

Holy shit you are talking about A SIX MINUTE WINDOW

jman1954goat said:
Tie the vote 3 coolest and 3 Luanchpad. leave someone else to break the tie it will tell us a lot

Brazil said:
Alright, this is the push I needed tbh

VOTE: Uzzy

Good grief

Verelios · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
What is it with you using your post count as a badge while simultaneously using it as an excuse to say why you suddenly trusted uzzy?

Wait, what? Didn't Nat start saying Uzzy might be town after she unvoted Coolest to move to launch?

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

I feel like if I die the game is won for scum which is why some people *cough cough* above are batting so hard to try to fight logic to get me voted. When we have the situation yesterday to read into and not just "WELL NEXT WAGON THAT WAS GOING AFTER UZZY"

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

Verelios said:
Wait, what? Didn't Nat start saying Uzzy might be town after she unvoted Coolest to move to launch?

Nope, Uzzy moved after

Verelios · Jul 26, 2020

CoolestSpot said:
I mean the one natural role has been used up so...

Z-Beat if you're town baby, please, try using your mind and heart to guide you here. And here I thought me trying to get Jman to split a vote for two leads for town to go into today was helpful.

Yo, coolest, be real with me bro. If you're town then give us some reads to work with other than randomness. If you're scum then...

Natiko · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
Launchpad seems to be in a constant state of people wanting him dead but not having enough to destroy his town cred so he's at top town

I don't have much to say for Vere so he's next up

Brazil's on and off and is pinging null for me

jman I initially assumed was new and seems to be putting in effort but I question whether or not I'm being played with the whole deal with Nat. At the same time he's been in on Coolest as well so that's the determining factor

Nat you going to bat for Coolest so hard is irking me so you're here

and finally if we'd killed Coolest earlier none of this would've happened

You're going is not scum = town, which is inherently not true in this game.

It stopped being policy a long time ago. In fact it's policy because of what's happening RIGHT NOW

There's no chance this game has two neutrals, so yes me saying he isn't scum is equal to saying he is Town. What the fuck sort of dumb semantics are you even pushing right now?

If Coolest isn't a policy vote then make the case. You say it's not a policy, but that it's a policy. Make the argument, and don't just deflect onto others as you accused me of doing.

Verelios · Jul 26, 2020

CoolestSpot said:
I feel like if I die the game is won for scum which is why some people *cough cough* above are batting so hard to try to fight logic to get me voted. When we have the situation yesterday to read into and not just "WELL NEXT WAGON THAT WAS GOING AFTER UZZY"

Enlighten us on the situation.

Z-Beat said:
Nope, Uzzy moved after

After she unvoted or after she moved to launch?

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

Verelios said:
After she unvoted or after she moved to launch?

Yes

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

I

Verelios said:
Enlighten us on the situation.

After she unvoted or after she moved to launch?

I'm trying to thinking of where to look. Again I'm on road right now and gonna be home around 7pm EST (this week has been busy for me out of nowhere all while mafia goes on :/)

I wonder, is Brazil Z-Beat and another member a possible member an able situation for this game? Z-Beat has been silent and literally popping up to just get me killed, sometimes at end of day 1 or so. Brazil is also been silent and offputting with his playstyle, compared to how he usually plays. How in depth he gets with today and looks at plays from eariler days could always change that. I just wonder if this is even possible team setup with the game, especially since I feel they're have to be third more outspoken member if this was the case.

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

CoolestSpot said:
A POLICY MURDER THIS LATE IN GAME?

IM ON ROAD TRIP AND CHECKING IN, BUT...WHAT THE FUCK

Let me know if this sounds accurate coolest

Day 1 : coolestspot plays just erratic enough to cause concern and fit his M.O. but not as crazy as regular coolestspot so he's actually not voted out

Day 2 : I call out coolest for not playing like himself so he cranks up the wildness soing things like voting for himself in a close situation( An obvious stunt he knew he would unvote himself he is just tying to look erratic but this seems very calculated.)

Day 3: welp town you missed your window to policy lynch to late now ( safe from votes rest of the game)

This plan sounding familiar to you CoolestSpot ? it's a pretty impressive plan if accurate.

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
Let me know if this sounds accurate coolest

Day 1 : coolestspot plays just erratic enough to cause concern and fit his M.O. but not as crazy as regular coolestspot so he's actually not voted out

Day 2 : I call out coolest for not playing like himself so he cranks up the wildness soing things like voting for himself in a close situation( An obvious stunt he knew he would unvote himself he is just tying to look erratic but this seems very calculated.)

Day 3: welp town you missed your window to policy lynch to late now ( safe from votes rest of the game)

This plan sounding familiar to you CoolestSpot ? it's a pretty impressive plan if accurate.

Oh no I voted for myself so brazil would back off and hopefully we could all jump on uzzy. I wish I was that calculated.

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

Natiko said:
There's no chance this game has two neutrals, so yes me saying he isn't scum is equal to saying he is Town. What the fuck sort of dumb semantics are you even pushing right now?

If Coolest isn't a policy vote then make the case. You say it's not a policy, but that it's a policy. Make the argument, and don't just deflect onto others as you accused me of doing.

[DEEP INHALE]

CoolestSpot said:
Looking through, but I'm down for just voting for the most silent member. The people I would vote are like "I'm going home, will post later!" so I feel like asshole targetting them right now

Admits to going after inactives. Doesn't quite pan out that way by the end of the day but does by night

CoolestSpot said:
You know what, fuck it

VOTE: NATIKO

jman1954goat said:
tell me why don't just vote and dip.

CoolestSpot said:
I said gut feeling. He reminds me of how iSCUM!NAT was in previous games

Just kinda throws that out there. At least I admitted mine was policy, at least initially until it turned out my policy held for a reason

CoolestSpot said:
Uzzy has played more

so this is fair

Vote: Uzzy

Direct contradiction of earlier MO

CoolestSpot said:
They don't want us voting Uzzy, but I see through them

CoolestSpot said:
Okay, well, if we were to wait a day on Uzzy and move our vote last minute today who would we all agree on? I was gonna say Z-Beat said he was gonna post more on work and such, but all he's done is expose he is able to post more but being "look at Coolest, making a fool of him". So much like Uzzy could be restrained scum hiding, I'd be fine with moving to Z-beat if y'all did.

The other option is what, Brazil?

Tries to cover ass

CoolestSpot said:
Alexem and Uzzy having same vote on Maol seems suspect to me, since maol seems to be maol.

also

VOTE: BRAZIL

I guess

Puts Brazil up but also the currently dead players

CoolestSpot said:
He is, but I want to go back to him and Uzzy tomorrow, with whatever Brazil and night actions give us.

This ended up not really doing much

CoolestSpot said:
Vote: Alexem

You know what, sure baby, sure.

Fran said:
Yeah, I'm not buying this.

Vote: CoolestSpot

MMMMHHHMMMM

CoolestSpot said:
...and...exactly what I was gonna say before continuing to play. He seems to playing a game with cards and pieces he shouldn't have for his role. I do think Uzzy is still scum though, guess I disagree there, though less heavy then I do Launchpad.

Trying to push launchpad but can't quite put it together enough to push launchpad.

CoolestSpot said:
To be fair, I had to leave for bit cause people would tell me I pissed them off and avoid playing with me cause of my playstyle. I mean, groot groot groot / groot groot / groot groot.

Also just saw Launchpad is going after Uzzy...

*takes notes and throws them into the trash bin*

Unless this is scum vs scum play so one can get out or a set up, I need to point more critical thought into this instead of gut feeling.

Still wants to push launchpad, but can't push both launchpad and uzzy. picks uzzy and saves launchpad for later

CoolestSpot said:
Going for whoever was unactive, really. Moment to moment I had doubts and second guessing myself, I should of stuck to spinning a wheel and going with whoever I got.

spinning a wheel later on seems destructive to everyone BUT coolest at this point with Nat running defense

CoolestSpot said:
Oh, cause I was reading him as scum earlier today, and Maol I just read as stubborn town. Also, let's be honest, it comes down to it's me or Uzzy today at this point, unless we all decide to jump to another boat as town which is hellah improbable. I was already iffy on them, and if it saves my skin, so be it.

States plan out loud so we're less likely to connect it to being his plan

CoolestSpot said:
Jman only pops in once in awhile, and is just active enough, while also trying to save Uzzy right now. Look into them dependent on how Uzzy flips, aye?

CoolestSpot said:
LAUNCHPADMCQ
UZZY
BRAZIL
VERE
YOU?

One in here

CoolestSpot said:
Wait...launchpad is like "eh Jman isn't scum" at end of that (along other alarming things) then me of all people give the weakest idea for why Jman might be scum and Launchpad goes "oh yeah, Jman is likely scum, haven't been paying attention" after defending them day start?

CoolestSpot said:
Burning text generator, please use it. I'm gonna abuse the generator though. Anyways, reading Uzzy's points on the matter, and seeing Launchpad flip so quickly ( I know, coming from me after D1, but I'm me) in a play that Uzzy said would only help Launchpad and we see it live I have to say,

VOTE: LAUNCHPADMCQ

Discredits jman and enacts the previously stated plan

Natiko · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
[DEEP INHALE]

Admits to going after inactives. Doesn't quite pan out that way by the end of the day but does by night

Just kinda throws that out there. At least I admitted mine was policy, at least initially until it turned out my policy held for a reason

Direct contradiction of earlier MO

Tries to cover ass

Puts Brazil up but also the currently dead players

This ended up not really doing much

MMMMHHHMMMM

Trying to push launchpad but can't quite put it together enough to push launchpad.

Still wants to push launchpad, but can't push both launchpad and uzzy. picks uzzy and saves launchpad for later

spinning a wheel later on seems destructive to everyone BUT coolest at this point with Nat running defense

States plan out loud so we're less likely to connect it to being his plan

Discredits jman and enacts the previously stated plan

Nothing about this post tells me why this is scum Coolest. You yourself have said he does not play logically - it's why you wanted to policy vote him from Day 1. Which of these things do you not think a town Coolest would do? Why? What happens if Coolest is just Town and you spent all game doing fuck all?

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat why are you so active all of a sudden it's very strange that you suddenly go from inactive to suddenly a leading poster. I don't understand what changed so suddenly and alarm-bells are ringing.

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

Oh my burning text went away. Well fuck.

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

To Z-Beat's defense J-Man, this may be the day that leads to scum win more or less, so I get him wanting to step it up. Now if for town or not, idk.

And why he now is targeting me and not giving reads on why other people scum is weird. Z-Beat if I die today and flip scum, who would that lead you to look into next?

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

Like, say I'm scum Z-Beat, what is my likely team and my moves tell you about a possible scumteam plan?

If you say I'm scum team loose canon to just raise hell I'll call weak sauce, heads up.

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
Z-Beat why are you so active all of a sudden it's very strange that you suddenly go from inactive to suddenly a leading poster. I don't understand what changed so suddenly and alarm-bells are ringing.

It's day 3 and I have more info. Also Nat is frustrating me

Natiko said:
Nothing about this post tells me why this is scum Coolest. You yourself have said he does not play logically - it's why you wanted to policy vote him from Day 1. Which of these things do you not think a town Coolest would do? Why? What happens if Coolest is just Town and you spent all game doing fuck all?

If Coolest is town then it proves my policy sound. There's a reason I have this policy on Coolest and not Zeke

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

CoolestSpot said:
If you say I'm scum team loose canon to just raise hell I'll call weak sauce, heads up.

why would you give someone your questioning a heads up?

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
why would you give someone your questioning a heads up?

I regretted it the moment I did that. Stupid move in mafia.

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
It's day 3 and I have more info. Also Nat is frustrating me

If Coolest is town then it proves my policy sound. There's a reason I have this policy on Coolest and not Zeke

So by your logic if I'm playing town I'm a wasted slot?

Natiko · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
It's day 3 and I have more info. Also Nat is frustrating me

If Coolest is town then it proves my policy sound. There's a reason I have this policy on Coolest and not Zeke

How would him flipping town prove your policy right? What would your next steps be if he did?

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

I wan't to make one thing very clear I am firmly against policy lynching. my vote for coolestspot yesterday and my heavy suspicion today are because i believe he is Scum and trying to play all of us. If i thought he was just town playing bad I would not have voted for him.

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

CoolestSpot said:
So by your logic if I'm playing town I'm a wasted slot?

Not until you start murdering at random...again...

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

"Coolest will kill us all and Pirate Bae is a scum cop"

These are the universal truths

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

Natiko said:
How would him flipping town prove your policy right? What would your next steps be if he did?

I would eye Brazil if coolest flipped town

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
I wan't to make one thing very clear I am firmly against policy lynching. my vote for coolestspot yesterday and my heavy suspicion today are because i believe he is Scum and trying to play all of us. If i thought he was just town playing bad I would not have voted for him.

Appreciated point.

Z-Beat said:
I would eye Brazil if coolest flipped town

Bro give us reasoning too. Otherwise you seem to be trying to save the man I just said you in cahoots with.

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
I would eye Brazil if coolest flipped town

why brazil?

Z-Beat · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
why brazil?

Because Brazil is among the list that I've been looking at since D1 on top of being less of a presence in the game than I'm used to. Plus Brazil seems like a contrast to coolest and idk why

LaunchpadMcQ · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
Almost non of Brazil's post seemed helpful day 1 or early day 2 very hard to read because he posts nothing of value (which is why I hate inactive play hurts town even when it's coming from a town player)

Z-Beat said:
Because Brazil is among the list that I've been looking at since D1 on top of being less of a presence in the game than I'm used to. Plus Brazil seems like a contrast to coolest and idk why

hmmmm

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

LaunchpadMcQ said:
hmmmm

Are you saying jman and zbeat having been playing in similar way of late?

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
Because Brazil is among the list that I've been looking at since D1 on top of being less of a presence in the game than I'm used to. Plus Brazil seems like a contrast to coolest and idk why

But before today your inactive too. your fishy as hell today z-beat none of your post are sitting right with me at all . why the sudden activity yet can't give a solid reason to anything. I hope you didn't think just because are votes line up that I haven't been side eyeing your post today.

VOTE:Z-Beat.

LaunchpadMcQ · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
I would eye Brazil if coolest flipped town

What does a Brazil scum team look like? Who are his scum mate(s)?

CoolestSpot said:
Are you saying jman and zbeat having been playing in similar way of late?

I'm definitely saying that. The two of them were the only two players off-wagon yesterday, as well. They were playing opposite ends of the activity spectrum until today.

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

CoolestSpot said:
Are you saying jman and zbeat having been playing in similar way of late?

I noticed it too Z-beat seems to be following along every path i take. can anyone in this thread think of a unique z-beat read?

CoolestSpot · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
I noticed it too Z-beat seems to be following along every path i take. can anyone in this thread think of a unique z-beat read?

"KILL COOLESTSPOT ON GOD'S NAME"?

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

CoolestSpot said:
"KILL COOLESTSPOT ON GOD'S NAME"?

what? your gonna have to explain this post to me

LaunchpadMcQ · Jul 26, 2020

CoolestSpot said:
"KILL COOLESTSPOT ON GOD'S NAME"?

I will hand it to you that he is the only one absolutely certain about killing one player.

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

Verelios you have asked some good questions today but have not shared many of your thoughts. run me through your full thought process on what you've' witnessed so far today.

Verelios · Jul 26, 2020

Z-Beat said:
Because Brazil is among the list that I've been looking at since D1 on top of being less of a presence in the game than I'm used to. Plus Brazil seems like a contrast to coolest and idk why

So a scum Coolest flip leads to Brazil for you?

jman1954goat · Jul 26, 2020

40% percent of Z-beats post come from just today and we are only 3 hours into the day.

Verelios · Jul 26, 2020

jman1954goat said:
Verelios you have asked some good questions today but have not shared many of your thoughts. run me through your full thought process on what you've' witnessed so far today.

I'm pretty sure Launch and Nat are on the level after yesterday. They've not only been consistent but their reads are logical and seem genuine.

On the other hand it's suspicious that both you and Z-beat got into lockstep so quickly today, to the extent that I would say one of you is scum. That also reminds me, jman1954goat and Z-Beat, do you believe Nat is scum? Brazil, like I mentioned earlier is another point of contention that we'll get to once he checks in.

As for Coolest, I don't want to waste my time there when there aren't enough threads to go on. If he doesn't contribute something then I propose that the moment we hit scum and we're not near mylo, we toss him off the island.

If things really get messy, today ends in a ML and I don't make it, then I suggest everyone role claim the day before mylo (which is tomorrow if we mislunch) to find any discrepancies.

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