The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street (Mafia) |OT| Suspicion can destroy

[Z-Beat]

And on the flip side, we can also assume that a doctor with that N1 target is also the easiest and most obvious fake claim to make.

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It does seem obvious, that's what worries me

 

[Fanto]

No PR is obligated to breadcrumb their role, and scum can fake breadcrumbs.

This is role madness, but we can Occam's this: the doctor protected the most active and town-read player on N1. No one died that night.

Though the fact that scum didn't shoot elsewhere may lend credibility to Fire thinking it's a "noobie scum team".

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And on the flip side, we can also assume that a doctor with that N1 target is also the easiest and most obvious fake claim to make.

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One of my chief concerns now is why Wee called this happening. I can think of some reasons, since this is Role Madness and she has a role as well, and she told us she baited that NK last night.

 

[saenima]

Actually on second thought for now... Vote: Saenima

your play throughout the day still doesn't add up to me. You know more than you're letting on.

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[Fireblend]

I'd appreciate it if weemad came in and updated her read on Sae.

 

[Aeleus]

A vanilla doctor seems too strong for this game going by the roles we've had so far, that plus weemads previous comments mean I don't believe the claim.

Unless weemad chimes in, my vote is sticking

 

[saenima]

A vanilla doctor seems too strong for this game going by the roles we've had so far, that plus weemads previous comments mean I don't believe the claim.

Unless weemad chimes in, my vote is sticking

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You're really pushing for info huh?

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

A vanilla doctor seems too strong for this game going by the roles we've had so far, that plus weemads previous comments mean I don't believe the claim.

Unless weemad chimes in, my vote is sticking

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We have one flip and your own role in a role madness game and a vanilla doctor is too strong?

 

[Z-Beat]

saenima, why exactly did you think she was a psychic again? I think I missed it. Whether or not I put my vote back is dependent on that and wee coming back

 

[saenima]

saenima, why exactly did you think she was a psychic again? I think I missed it. Whether or not I put my vote back is dependent on that and wee coming back

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I have no idea what she is. Until last page i never knew psychic was a role.

 

[Aeleus]

You're really pushing for info huh?

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A doctor claim is dead regardless especially given you can lie, if you had just said you were a normal doctor I'd have called you out for it.

We have one flip and your own role in a role madness game and a vanilla doctor is too strong?

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Neighbours rather than Masons

 

[Z-Beat]

I have no idea what she is. Until last page i never knew psychic was a role.

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So the hashtag was just a coincidence?

 

[Fireblend]

I have no idea what she is. Until last page i never knew psychic was a role.

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I feel like this game has had some serious cases of people misreading stuff. This reminds me of yesterday's misunderstandings about the neighbor chat being costumed despite Zeke never alluding to that.

 

[Dr. Monkey]

==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start

saenima (5 votes)
Fireblend - #1,090
weemadarthur - #1,272
Fantomas - #1,401
CaptainNuevo - #1,451 #1,522
Aeleus - #1,502
Z-Beat - #1,505 #1,545
CaptainNuevo - #1,549

Ynnek7 (4 votes)
Fantomas - #1,059 #1,401
Kopite - #1,127
WhySoDevious - #1,135
Vincent Alexander - #1,227
saenima - #1,487

Kopite (2 votes)
Aeleus - #1,163 #1,502
Ynnek7 - #1,332
Lone_Prodigy - #1,529

Vincent Alexander (1 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #858

EzekelRAGE (1 votes)
flatearthpandas - #960

Fireblend (0 votes)
Ynnek7 - #1,033 #1,332
CaptainNuevo - #1,522 #1,549

flatearthpandas (0 votes)
Fantomas - #880 #1,050

CaptainNuevo (0 votes)
saenima - #1,023 #1,487

weemadarthur (0 votes)
WhySoDevious - #860 #1,049
CaptainNuevo - #930 #1,161

Not voting: Z-Beat

Post Counts:
weemadarthur: 100 saenima: 97 EzekelRAGE: 79 Fantomas: 76 Fireblend: 54 flatearthpandas: 46 Vincent Alexander: 43 CaptainNuevo: 42 Aeleus: 35 Z-Beat: 33 WhySoDevious: 32 Ynnek7: 31 Lone_Prodigy: 19 Kopite: 14 Stuart444: 1

Current Countdown:

 

[Ynnek7]

I guess it comes down to opinion, but neighbors seems stronger that masons to me. Downside is that you don't know your partners alignment, I guess, but you also don't lose two with one kill.

 

[saenima]

I feel like this game has had some serious cases of people misreading stuff. This reminds me of yesterday's misunderstandings about the neighbor chat being costumed despite Zeke never alluding to that.

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I've been saying this all day long. People aren't reading shit.

 

[Aeleus]

I guess it comes down to opinion, but neighbors seems stronger that masons to me. Downside is that you don't know your partners alignment, I guess, but you also don't lose two with one kill.

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Masons and lovers are different things

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Lol at this statement coming from you, in this game.

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Are you just gonna throw vague shade like this or would you elaborate on what you mean?

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I literally made a post with a read on everyone, which you chose to not comment on except to throw more shade. No one else has presented this full back read as far as i'm aware. And i have been providing my thoughts throughout the game after that. The only omgus here is from you wee. You've been on my case since the game started, made a weak gotcha post that i have replied to, a reply that you mostly ignored and even kind of agreed, at least in part. And then went back immediately to throw more vague shade at me without really addressing what i've said. This is getting really annoying. My 'self-preservation' comes from constantly being attacked by you. Would you rather i'd just ignore you so you could then complain that i'm not answering your questions?

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This exchange doesn't read like that of someone you townread.

The last reply has a line or two where you accused fire of the same thing.

 

[Fireblend]

==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start

saenima (5 votes)
Fireblend - #1,090
weemadarthur - #1,272
Fantomas - #1,401
CaptainNuevo - #1,451 #1,522
Aeleus - #1,502
Z-Beat - #1,505

Ynnek7 (4 votes)
Fantomas - #1,059 #1,401
Kopite - #1,127
WhySoDevious - #1,135
Vincent Alexander - #1,227
saenima - #1,487

Kopite (2 votes)
Aeleus - #1,163 #1,502
Ynnek7 - #1,332
Lone_Prodigy - #1,529

Fireblend (1 votes)
Ynnek7 - #1,033 #1,332
CaptainNuevo - #1,522

Vincent Alexander (1 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #858

EzekelRAGE (1 votes)
flatearthpandas - #960

flatearthpandas (0 votes)
Fantomas - #880 #1,050

CaptainNuevo (0 votes)
saenima - #1,023 #1,487

weemadarthur (0 votes)
WhySoDevious - #860 #1,049
CaptainNuevo - #930 #1,161

Post Counts:
weemadarthur: 100 saenima: 92 EzekelRAGE: 77 Fantomas: 75 Fireblend: 51 flatearthpandas: 46 Vincent Alexander: 43 CaptainNuevo: 40 WhySoDevious: 32 Aeleus: 31 Ynnek7: 30 Z-Beat: 29 Lone_Prodigy: 16 Kopite: 14 Stuart444: 1

Current Countdown:

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This is outdated, Cap's vote is on saenima rn.

 

[Dr. Monkey]

This is outdated, Cap's vote is on saenima rn.

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oh, geez, I didn't reload. One sec.

edit (because I can): fixed

 

[Aeleus]

This is outdated, Cap's vote is on saenima rn.

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And Z-Beats isn't, still 5 votes

 

[Ynnek7]

Masons and lovers are different things

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Ah, thanks, forgot about that.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

A vanilla doctor seems too strong for this game going by the roles we've had so far, that plus weemads previous comments mean I don't believe the claim.

Unless weemad chimes in, my vote is sticking

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How can you say whether the role is too strong or not? We don't know what the scum team has.

 

[saenima]

A doctor claim is dead regardless especially given you can lie, if you had just said you were a normal doctor I'd have called you out for it.

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Idk what you're saying here. If i claimed normal you'd call me out but since i didn't you're calling me out?

So the hashtag was just a coincidence?

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If she is indeed psychic then yes.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I guess it comes down to opinion, but neighbors seems stronger that masons to me. Downside is that you don't know your partners alignment, I guess, but you also don't lose two with one kill.

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??? How are masons weaker?

They are the same except masons know each other are town, which makes them stronger

 

[saenima]

This exchange doesn't read like that of someone you townread.

The last reply has a line or two where you accused fire of the same thing.

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That exchange shows frustration.

Remember when wee said i started townreading her out of nowhere on day 2? Wonder why that is.

 

[WhySoDevious]

Idk what you're saying here. If i claimed normal you'd call me out but since i didn't you're calling me out?



If she is indeed psychic then yes.

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I brought up the Psychic role because of your hashtags. I thought you were trying to say that.

So she might not be a Psychic. Maybe a similar role?

 

[Z-Beat]

If she is indeed psychic then yes.

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Yeah, that's the part I'm not gonna buy. I'll wait until wee comes back just to keep a hammer out of the question

 

[EzekelRAGE]

That was almost 24 hours before eod. I had also changed my read on fanto before eod.

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Just going by what you posted. Seems like you would go out of your way to update it as a real doc.

 

[Aeleus]

How can you say whether the role is too strong or not? We don't know what the scum team has.

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This is fair but scum probably only had 3 members so it'd be a quite swingy set up

Idk what you're saying here. If i claimed normal you'd call me out but since i didn't you're calling me out?

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I'm not calling you out for not explaining your specific role, I was just explaining my reasoning

 

[Fanto]

I brought up the Psychic role because of your hashtags. I thought you were trying to say that.

So she might not be a Psychic. Maybe a similar role?

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It doesn't really matter what Wee's role is, she'll tell us if she wants to.

 

[Fanto]

I mean, ultimately it does matter what her role is, I mean speculating openly is probably not the wisest thing to do.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

That exchange shows frustration.

Remember when wee said i started townreading her out of nowhere on day 2? Wonder why that is.

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See if true, stuff like that can help you.

Although if you were scum, you know wee was targeted neway

🤔

 

[saenima]

I brought up the Psychic role because of your hashtags. I thought you were trying to say that.

So she might not be a Psychic. Maybe a similar role?

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Idk. Should we be speculating on this? Scum can do their own damn work.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Hey all, thanks for the well wishes. I'm feeling a bit better and am waiting on test results so I'll take the time to catch up

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So Z-Beat was sick (understandable) but these are his posts after the one above:

N1 speculation:

Conspiracy-wise: Scum is keeping in theme with the episode and letting us destroy ourselves

Realistically: Someone probably used a role and it was probably a low-activity player being targeted because there wouldn't be much to go on from their posts.

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Role speculation:

Are you some kind of They Live cop?

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They live is a movie about a guy who gets special glasses that allows him to see aliens who are in disguise. Wrong story but fitting nonetheless

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On sae and Fire:

Mentioned a while back that I don't think they're working together, so either town/town, scum/town, or scum/neutral, but I already have neutral cap as an option

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Attempts a reads list with no explanations:

Town

Fant
Wee
Zeke
Fireblend
Aeleus
Kopite
Flatearthpandas
Saenima

Scum

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Then nothing until these recent ones:

saenima did you claim yet?

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2 hours left and on the hot seat so it might be a bit of a gamble but fep didn't and got out of it so maybe.

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I don't want to give Zeke hammer privilege, but majority looks like it's 8 so I think we're safe from that for now.

I'm gonna leave it here for now so even if I'm not back in time for EoD I won't regret my choice

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Vote: Saenima

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Fishes for a claim and is quick to vote.

Not a fan. I can give him a pass for earlier, but just parroting off others and joining the wagon du jour shows little in the way of analytic, critical, independent thinking.

 

[saenima]

See if true, stuff like that can help you.

Although if you were scum, you know wee was targeted neway

🤔

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True. But would i make it so obvious?

 

[Ynnek7]

??? How are masons weaker?

They are the same except masons know each other are town, which makes them stronger

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Already was corrected above. Forgot that mason's didn't work like Lovers

 

[EzekelRAGE]

True. But would i make it so obvious?

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Meh wifom

 

[Kopite]

So, I don't want to vote for saenima because I was feeling good about them, but by saying that I'm just getting my scum stink on him again :-(

I'm keeping my vote on Kopite for now since they're who I actually find scummy but won't be afraid to vote Sae if it means saving myself.

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Again, do you have any reason for this other than the fact I'm voting for you?

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Obviously, whatever wee says will change things, but at the moment I will not vote saenima. If he's telling the truth, scum has to remove him. If he's lying, he'll eventually be found out.

Join me on Kopite, people.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

If he's telling the truth, scum has to remove him. If he's lying, he'll eventually be found .

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Could be a dangerous road

 

[EzekelRAGE]

vote: saenima

*truffleshuffle*

 

[WhySoDevious]

Fantomas

If Saenima flips town, would it be fair to side-eye your vote change from Ynnek to Saenima once the Yneek train got rolling?

 

[saenima]

Join me on Kopite, people.

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Admittedly i haven't been paying attention to your thing with Kop. I think you provided reads but i have to go back and read them. But right now i'd rather we voted Ynnek. He's also voting Kop and that might give us something there. And i did notice that Kop has been pressing him for answers that never come.

 

[saenima]

Fantomas

If Saenima flips town, would it be fair to side-eye your vote change from Ynnek to Saenima once the Yneek train got rolling?

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Well that's 2 ynnek derails in a row.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

unvote

 

[Fanto]

Fantomas

If Saenima flips town, would it be fair to side-eye your vote change from Ynnek to Saenima once the Yneek train got rolling?

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I suppose it would be, yes. I'd likely side-eye it as well.

I am still scum reading Ynnek, but my vote is staying on Sae. I think this claim is bullshit.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Z-Beat make a vote

 

[Aeleus]

Obviously, whatever wee says will change things, but at the moment I will not vote saenima. If he's telling the truth, scum has to remove him. If he's lying, he'll eventually be found out.

Join me on Kopite, people.

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You're really trying to make things hard for me aren't you

I'm not biting, I'll wait for weemad

 

[saenima]

Could be a dangerous road

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Why?

 

[Ynnek7]

Again, do you have any reason for this other than the fact I'm voting for you?

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It's not just that you're voting for me. It's that both days you voted early for me. Day one that put you in a good place once the train started, and you decided to stick with that today, most likely knowing that my playstyle would result in another train.

Once I flipped town, it would be easy to hide in that voting group.

Also, when reading through your past posts I really didn't see anything to make me think you were town.