I would argue that he is a public figure. Definitions are subjective on this. Regardless, he is a preacher of hate to a large audience, and he is certainly not a private person.I believe a private citizen is just one not in a government position, isn't it? Regardless, Tucker Carlson's fame shouldn't make anyone more comfortable with the idea of him being murdered.
lol wtfIs he wrong? Non-violence is a pretty strong belief in a massive amount of people.
We all know it's bullshit here, but after a Trump supporter sent bombs to high-profile democrats you'd think just out of decency they'd maybe cool it a little. it's patheticExactly, the guy has blood on his hands and he shows no signs of stopping that behavior unless the people step in and pressure him to stop. That involves inconveniencing him everywhere: restaurants, the grocery store, his home. It means he gets no respite from the consequences for his actions, and eventually it is not worth it for him to continue to hurt people anymore. He had plenty of chances to be civil, he chose otherwise. His loss.
Arguing against this by "taking this thinking to its logical extreme" is constructing a strawman. I believe we can and should do shit, while stopping short of harassing people at their homes.Not really
The right has already shown on multiple occasions they're willing to kill rather than debate, taken to its logical extreme your fear has everyone on the left staying silent in their homes wringing their hands while the world turns to garbage.
Why all the hand-wringing over protesting outside of his home if you advocate non-violence?
Alright where's the cutoff point for the acceptable amount of misfortune to wish upon a bad person? Can I say it would be cool if he got a flat tire and nobody was willing to tow his car or give him a ride?Not caring isn't the same thing as not minding, not being bothered. You were day dreaming about it, wishing out loud. That's not the same thing as not caring.
The thread is literally about protestors. Why are you referring to them as an angry mob then?Is he wrong? Non-violence is a pretty strong belief in a massive amount of people.
I said "an angry mob." I didn't not mention Black Live Matter, and I didn't use the word protesters.
You are dishonestly and blatantly trying to misrepresent what I'm saying.
Because, as I've said, these sorts of mobs egg themselves on and attract agent provocateurs.
It's not a big leap from a mob angrily gathering at a private citizen's home to something violent or destructive happening.
The possibility of violence is more than visible. That's why I'm concerned.
And then, beyond that, you have many, many people right here in this thread tacitly or bluntly supporting that result.
It is mob mentality and it happens alot here. When people speak against it they automatically assume you side with the person. (ie Carson)
But people looking for blood on here who aren't willing to draw the blood themselves should chill the fuck out. We don't want this country to turn violent. You may want it to take a violent turn with anti fascists and racists duking it out. Sure it starts off small, fists and bats, then it escalated to guns and before you know it, me and you're caught up in the mix. I think people need to see someone get stabbed or hear what a bat sounds like when it cracks someone's head....in person...before sitting here asking for revolution. Let reality sink in, you don't want this shit getting out of hand. You don't want organized racists banging on Anderson Coopers door, knowing their home address.
It took one idiot...to send pipe bombs. Yes I understand Carlson's rhetoric ratched the nation to where it is today. But how come we are not writing his sponsors and taking him down like we did O'Rielly or whomever else whose pockets we hit?
Alright where's the cutoff point for the acceptable amount of misfortune to wish upon a bad person? Can I say it would be cool if he got a flat tire and nobody was willing to tow his car or give him a ride?
I expect some people in the government want these events to happen so they can go into agent provocateur mode and just throw a brick at Carlson's window to ban protesting or something.
I don't know. I think it's a murky subject. I'm not comfortable drawing that line, and I believe it's subjective. I'm comfortable saying I think hoping his house gets fire bombed is offside though.Alright where's the cutoff point for the acceptable amount of misfortune to wish upon a bad person? Can I say it would be cool if he got a flat tire and nobody was willing to tow his car or give him a ride?
The thread is literally about protestors. Why are you referring to them as an angry mob then?
Like mailing bombs to ex presidents?
They voted Trump because they are ignorant racists without a shred of human decency. Not because some people on a gaming forum made snarky comments.This is why they voted Trump. lol I thought posts like that were pretty much a myth.
You know what you're doing.
I was talking about a hypothetical mob in hypothetical future where you or a hypothetical person end up on the wrong side of some hypothetical issues.
You're trying to change the whole conversation to being about me disliking protest, or something, and that's dishonest. I love peaceful protest - it's one of our most important civil liberties.
You compared this to the civil war and WW2.Yeah but what if you suddenly got a flat tire too huh? Wouldn't you not wanna be in that situation!? You're just as bad as the racist!
Well, the people in the thread aren't at his home so who gives a shit what we think? And your logic is just slippery slope, isn't it? It might happen, it might not. An "agent provocateur" could get to him anytime, or any number of people anytime. I don't see what that has to do with a peaceful protest outside the home of a Nazi, which is letting the guy get off pretty damn easy considering how he would have been handled historically.Because, as I've said, these sorts of mobs egg themselves on and attract agent provocateurs.
It's not a big leap from a mob angrily gathering at a private citizen's home to something violent or destructive happening.
The possibility of violence is more than visible. That's why I'm concerned.
And then, beyond that, you have many, many people right here in this thread tacitly or bluntly supporting that result.
Yep
I'm not sure if its Infowarsish to think something like that could happen but considering the current admin, who knows.
Exactly. That's why it's so funny. If you see somebody at a diner get yelled at and decide you no longer want to be a Democrat, you never were. Not when Trump is President and doing something dastardly daily while Republicans enable and cover for him on the world stage. It's a joke.They voted Trump because they are ignorant racists. Not because some people on a gaming forum made snarky comments.
Would be fitting to wrap a piece of shit in toilet paper.
David Hogg accomplished so much more with his tweet about Laura Ingraham than what this group will be doing. This only gives him fodder for his show. Follow the money.Again....why are we not putting the pressure on the sponsors. Pulling sponsors is a fuck of a lot better than going to people's houses and making that a thing.
Yeah that's how we beat the Nazis and Confederates last time.Attack with words, ideals and facts, not physical violence and physical intimidation.
It just gives the opposition ammo.
this snarky comment is making me vote Jeb! next electionThey voted Trump because they are ignorant racists without a shred of human decency. Not because some people on a gaming forum made snarky comments.
Oh you were being sarcastic in your first post. That's my bad. My sarcasm detector didn't go off.Exactly. That's why it's so funny. If you see somebody at a diner get yelled at and decide you no longer want to be a Democrat, you never were. Not when Trump is President and doing something dastardly daily while Republicans enable and cover for him on the world stage. It's a joke.
It is mob mentality and it happens alot here. When people speak against it they automatically assume you side with the person. (ie Carson)
But people looking for blood on here who aren't willing to draw the blood themselves should chill the fuck out. We don't want this country to turn violent. You may want it to take a violent turn with anti fascists and racists duking it out. Sure it starts off small, fists and bats, then it escalated to guns and before you know it, me and you're caught up in the mix. I think people need to see someone get stabbed or hear what a bat sounds like when it cracks someone's head....in person...before sitting here asking for revolution. Let reality sink in, you don't want this shit getting out of hand. You don't want organized racists banging on Anderson Coopers door, knowing their home address.
It took one idiot...to send pipe bombs. Yes I understand Carlson's rhetoric ratched the nation to where it is today. But how come we are not writing his sponsors and taking him down like we did O'Rielly or whomever else whose pockets we hit?
lol at this bullshitYou're trying to turn "mob" into some sort of slur when it's just an appropriate noun.
lol megyn kelly is sad that tucker is being protested boo frigging hoo
lol megyn kelly is sad that tucker is being protested boo frigging hoo
Both are being done simultaneously, plenty of people have gone after sponsors. The sponsors are well are aware of what they support.Again....why are we not putting the pressure on the sponsors. Pulling sponsors is a fuck of a lot better than going to people's houses and making that a thing.
lol megyn kelly is sad that tucker is being protested boo frigging hoo
Well, forgive me if the current political climate of mail bombs and mass shootings by incels and white nationalists has left me a little insensitive toward some guy on Fox News who feeds Nazi talking points directly into the president's head whenever he watches his show.I don't know. I think it's a murky subject. I'm not comfortable drawing that line, and I believe it's subjective. I'm comfortable saying I think hoping his house gets fire bombed is offside though.
Why don't you wait until something actually happens to cry about it instead of worrying.Because, as I've said, these sorts of mobs egg themselves on and attract agent provocateurs.
It's not a big leap from a mob angrily gathering at a private citizen's home to something violent or destructive happening.
The possibility of violence is more than visible. That's why I'm concerned.
And then, beyond that, you have many, many people right here in this thread tacitly or bluntly supporting that result.
You evil motherfucker. You're the one who keeps supplying negative connotations by saying you don't want this mob to exist and implying that they will necessarily become violent.The dictionary definition of "mob" is "a large crowd of people."
Any positive or negative connotation there is being supplied by the reader.
I have it on very good authority that Jeb hates dogs though.
I was talking about a hypothetical mob in hypothetical future where you or a hypothetical person end up on the wrong side of some hypothetical issues.