What race is Milo's husband? Who is Anne Coulter dating? Have you ever heard the term quisling?
You aren't getting what I am saying at all. I am not labelling you a alt righer. I am saying you being black and viewing this being a good thing means nothing.
Some very fine ideas.It matters because you are literally telling people here to kill other people because of ideas. Thats FUCKING SCARY!!!
But Cream was referring to Trump which is in American society not UK society. There are parallels in both but they can't be treated the same. Also this whole talking point hasn't really linked back to the discussion of safe spaces in schools.
It also allows people filled with hate to have a stage to spread that hate to other people. Just because these are 16-18 yr olds doesn't mean some aren't vulnerableOk. But, what's "nothing" about it? If it allows people to gain a balanced education on people's views, however shitty they are, they can then decide to ignore them.
What the fuck does this have to do with the thread in question that we are posting in? I have no relation to the moderators other then when we migrated our communities from Discord to here. If you seriously think we're getting off scott free because of a mysterious relationship with the mods, then I want what you're smoking.
I guess you're just losing me with this blanket definition of what a liberal is and also your assumption that these "liberals" care more about evolution than human rights abuses. Id be hesitant to consider someone saying "let's have a debate to discuss the validity of your racist point of view" a liberal. That's the same "both sides" bullshit Trump was talking about after Charlottesville. The people behind movements like blm seem to care plenty about equal treatment and human rights yet they aren't include in your definition of a social liberal apparently.Don't be disingenuous. My definition of opposition in the context of this situation is to tell the bigot to fuck off. Others' definition of opposition is to apparently to engage academically to maintain moral high ground and provide enlightenment. That's the fundamental disagreement here.
I still don't understand you. My point was that by giving obviously fuck-ass bigotry the pomp and circumstance of presence in an academic debate sphere, it gives bigotry an air of legitimacy it doesn't deserve which does more to appeal to fence-sitters than not. My appeal to intelligent design was to demonstrate the feeling of frustration most minorities have when they see liberals keen on letting bigots debate our worth through the veneer of intellectual discourse by comparing this to a subject most of these same liberals tend to rage at over the thought of being entertained in an academic setting. Seriously, no one here wants intelligent design debated in schools because it's obvious nonsense. But whether or not black people are inferior to white people? Well, suddenly we have to have a "conversation!" Allies, my ass.
So I'm not sure what in the world does the framing of potential laws have to do with any of this, but that's what I meant to say.
Is it really preemptive if we have actual documented proof of what fascists want to do to certain races of people and have already done? I mean the Holocaust happened, the Rape of Nanking happened, murder is par for the course with this ideology.
You know Nazis and the alt-right love people like you, right? You successfully turned a conversation about the evils of nazism and what should be done to stop their spread into criticizing Obama.
Like, can we stop a moment and see how we are classyfing ethnic genocide as an "idea"? Do we have to just accept this?
Nazi's argue for the genociding of entire races yet you seem to have no problem engaging with them. Why are we different?....k I think it would be better for my sanity if i don't post in this thread anymore. An eyeopening experience to be sure.
Note: I don't like Nazis, or racists just to be clear. Killing people for the ideas they have is a slippery slope to argue for.
It doesn't matter if they spread their "shit", you just have fight back against them with logic.
After the Civil War, every single confederate general, at the very least, should have been killed. Everything should have been razed. After WW2, germany had the nuremberg trials. You have to stomp down this shit. It's the only way.Because the only way to prevent a genocide is by committing a genocide. Excellent.
Because the only way to prevent a genocide is by committing a genocide. Excellent.
So communists should have been killed in Russia?After the Civil War, every single confederate general, at the very least, should have been killed. Everything should have been razed. After WW2, germany had the nuremberg trials. You have to stomp down this shit. It's the only way.
You know Nazis and the alt-right love people like you, right? You successfully turned a conversation about the evils of nazism and what should be done to stop their spread into criticizing Obama.
You're doing their job for them and you can't even see it.
Or far more likely you know exactly what you're doing.
Nope. Don't whatabout this. Do you think what we did to the Nazis in Germany were wrong? Yes or No?
It also allows people filled with hate to have a stage to spread that hate to other people. Just because these are 16-18 yr olds doesn't mean some aren't vulnerable
I apologize. I assumed you were talking about Obama. Lol I told you I wasn't knowledgeable on the topic. I'm not sure why you even brought up Al Queda at all except to deflect. But I've seen some of your posts in other threads, and I'm still pretty sure of your true intentions.There is soooo much factually wrong in this one post it's astounding. You're not even talking about he right president. What is this complex you have? What makes you think I'm criticizing Obama beyond your own ignorance and desire to see me as an alt right operative?
I guess you're just losing me with this blanket definition of what a liberal is and also your assumption that these "liberals" care more about evolution than human rights abuses. Id be hesitant to consider someone saying "let's have a debate to discuss the validity of your racist point of view" a liberal. That's the same "both sides" bullshit Trump was talking about after Charlottesville. The people behind movements like blm seem to care plenty about equal treatment and human rights yet they aren't include in your definition of a social liberal apparently.
Your not stopping racist beliefs from spreading by refusing to engage them, you're at best just removing them from your own enclave, while at the same time allowing them to spread their propaganda unchallenged to everyone who's not already completely on your side.I guess you're just losing me with this blanket definition of what a liberal is and also your assumption that these "liberals" care more about evolution than human rights abuses. Id be hesitant to consider someone saying "let's have a debate to discuss the validity of your racist point of view" a liberal. That's the same "both sides" bullshit Trump was talking about after Charlottesville. The people behind movements like blm seem to care plenty about equal treatment and human rights yet they aren't include in your definition of a social liberal apparently.
Very well societies.
This topic has nothing to do with safe spaces in schools.... This is about a school wanting to have a free for all where Are women genetically less capable of working in tech is deemed a worthy topic of discussion along with "Not all cultures are equal) .... Not to mention the humour of an all boys school discussion women and feminism... which when you look at the other topic I think draws a pretty clear picture of what women and feminism is going to be about....
no no no no no no.
I apologize. I assumed you were talking about Obama. Lol I told you I wasn't knowledgeable on the topic. I'm not sure why you even brought up Al Queda at all except to deflect. But I've seen some of your posts in other threads, and I'm still pretty sure of your true intentions.
fuck, we've been found outAbsolutely no one said that. But by having the title you have recognition by the power structure to your contributions to the community vs a standard user. That's the point. While it carries nothing of value, within this community it has value and weight. It indicates past involvement with the power structure in some tangible way. Just like medals of honor do. Power structure doesn't just exist at the government level you know. Further you don't need to be official part of the power structure to be recognized or benefit from the power structure.
Well. Erm. Why just that? Communist Russia killed more people than Nazi Germany did. And if you hadn't noticed we've got a fair few returning fighters from ISIS coming to our (UK) shores and I'm sure I don't need to remind you of their track record.no no no no no no.
Stop it. Stop with the fucking deflections. We are talking about the spread of white supremacy and nazism. Not Al Queda. Not Communists.
Fuck Nazis.Look I think you should read why pre emptive strikes are a really bad idea. We've had a VERY clear example just 15-20 years again and people are complaining about history repeating itself when they are unaware of recent history less than 20 years ago. There was a world before Obama and a lot of stuff to criticize before then too. Including the idea of pre emptive strikes which are pretty much ALWAYS a bad idea.
...It's a tag.Absolutely no one said that. But by having the title you have recognition by the power structure to your contributions to the community vs a standard user. That's the point. While it carries nothing of value, within this community it has value and weight. It indicates past involvement with the power structure in some tangible way. Just like medals of honor do. Power structure doesn't just exist at the government level you know. Further you don't need to be official part of the power structure to be recognized or benefit from the power structure.
Debates don't work for the majority of racists is my point, they just use them to spread their shit. They aren't open to changing their views, they want others to join them. That shit shouldn't be allowed in schools.But this happens with any form of communication. You just have to trust people at some point.
I mean in this case, I'd encourage more debates even, so that people with these racist/discriminatory views won't just keep them to themselves.
When arguing with someone about them, they'll see they can't give a reason for their view, even if they just accept it, at first.
It's pretty funny that all the people leaving are the ones who were defending this idea.
Telling, huh?
Love seeing people say shit like. Hindsight is supposed to be 20/20 but this is pure stupidity. Thankful people who think like you will never hold power.After the Civil War, every single confederate general, at the very least, should have been killed. Everything should have been razed. After WW2, germany had the nuremberg trials. You have to stomp down this shit. It's the only way.
That's literally what is making me laugh so hard. Making mountains out of molehills, trying to make me and other resettle advisors out as if we are apart of the secret cabal to ban the alt-right from shitting up this site.
Heh. I don't know what's funnier, the bizarre misinterpretation of a completely innocuous tag (almost as if it was intended to deflect or change the subject or something), or this even more bizarre insistence at ~debating everything~ but when it comes to actual debating, the "k I'm out I can't do this" bailing.That's literally what is making me laugh so hard. Making mountains out of molehills, trying to make me and other resettle advisors out as if we are apart of the secret cabal to ban the alt-right from shitting up this site.
I think Cream's point is that those who insist that every idea merits a debating platform are those who are the first to jump ship the moment minorities actually start humouring them. Not talking about people just avoiding the thread.You think people who are against it haven't left too? You think most of them aren't avoiding this thread? There's no victory to be had here.
Fuck Nazis.
They deserve to die if they refuse to renounce their beliefs and their plans. I will never back down from this.
There's many many people who feel the same toward you. This is not how the world works, bud. Please exercise rational thought for once.Fuck Nazis.
They deserve to die if they refuse to renounce their beliefs and their plans. I will never back down from this.
Your obvious gaslighting won't work on me lolOk well look I can't help you with that, what I can do is respond to your incorrect assessment that I'm somehow part of the alt right and want to criticize Obama. Neither or why I said. It's just really a show that the "other side" isn't actually another side just who ever doesn't align with your opinions which makes them the other side. Which again is why a forum like this might help some people to gain perspective. The world didn't begin or end with nazis. Actual Nazis are probably the least hate prominent group out there in terms of actual geo political power. Russia by contrast as another poster has said has killed many more people and many of those people with that ideology are current active and embraced by the Russian government. Picking and choosing your oppresser because of lack of knowledge is a poor way to fight injustice.
There's many many people who feel the same toward you. This is not how the world works, bud. Please exercise rational thought for once.
Heh. I don't know what's funnier, the bizarre misinterpretation of a completely innocuous tag (almost as if it was intended to deflect or change the subject or something), or this even more bizarre insistence at ~debating everything~ but when it comes to actual debating, the "k I'm out I can't do this" bailing.
Which country has statues celebrating these assholes? Hint: it ain't the ones who took the US's approach.Love seeing people say shit like. Hindsight is supposed to be 20/20 but this is pure stupidity. Thankful people who think like you will never hold power.