US PoliEra 2019 |OT6| Have You Hurd About These GOP Retirements?
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I guess as written they might stand to be forced to spend more on security
would probably be possible to write a version of the bill that makes them bank if the Senate were under the control of someone who wanted election security reform.
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Just wanted to point out, this is my Rep. Glad is now on board.
This was previously Darrel Issa's district. It's been trending blue, but it could still snap back to red under certain conditions. For impeachment to gain any real momentum, more Reps like mine in swing districts need to get on board so this is a positive sign.
Pretty optimistic to think the conservative judges would allow this for anything dems care about
Actually, probably not. It's not voting GOP next year (thanks partly to you!), and in 2022 the lines will be redrawn.
Wexton (VA-10) and Levin are probably the safest of the freshman flips.
There isn't any precedent. Conservative justices will just let a republican do whatever they want to do even if it's totally illegal but not let a Democrat do whatever they want to do even if it is totally legal
So yeah, that's a straight up impeachment inquiry launch by the Judiciary. A good initial step, though muddied by that ridiculous press conference. Then again, combined with the not obvious language saying that they're about to blast the president with the dreaded 'I' word, you could say that conference's reason was to muddy this quite official launch of legal impeachment proceedings.
You don't just aimlessly launch this shit off the hip. This has been planned and I'm sure Nadler and the other members made up their mind earlier than you probably think.
Yeah, there's probably some game going on among the oligarchs, same game as usual. Fuck it though, because overall, today is a win.
This is one of the clearest arguments in favor of Dems stacking the Courts if they do pick up the White House and Senate in 2020.
So whats the process with the house judiciary launching an inquiry?
Is a full vote necessary? Do they obtain more significant subpoena powers?
People on Twitter have been shitting on his "Bernie is a feminist" video pretty hard with #bernieseverywoman
You're probably right. No way this district is voting for Trump and there isn't a strong GOP challenger on the horizon at the moment. For Levin to get in trouble he would have to vote against some major military measure or be viewed as anti-small business. He does have to tread a little bit lightly because there is a military base here where Trump does enjoy some support, but even still supporting impeachment wouldn't be Levin's riskiest vote.
No additional power.
Judges may consider that it's impeachment and weigh things differently, that's it.
So they are going over Pelosi's head with this or what? Does this differ in some way from the full house voting to open an impeachment inquiry?'
Ah thanks for below dabig2.
Ah thanks for below dabig2.
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They basically did what Larry Tribe told them to do months ago: use and abuse that article 6{e}. No floor vote or anything like that needed. And the language used in that petition is actually a bit more final than some would like to admit, doesn't matter how it's spinned outside of the courts.
This was my question. I get the feeling pelosi does not want a full house vote
Ok. So up to this point the house did not have access to grand jury material?
i believe we recently had a court ruling basically saying "we'd give you xyz materials if this were impeachment related but not otherwise," but I can't remember which case or which materials. Was it the DC circuit ruling on Mueller grand jury testimony? Jeebus, with the amount of time i spent angsting about politics on the internet I should really get better at recalling information.
edit: oh someone already came up with a better version of this answer, ignore me. but yeah, this is the final checkbox all the by-the-book judges need to get full onboard with congressional oversight, i think.
They have shit beyond whoever gave it willingly. They haven't even sniffed an inch of counterintelligence in over 2 years, no meetings surely in that timeframe which is ludicrous especially considering everything that's happened in those couple years.
CI by the way is the actual goldmine. Mueller report is an ant compared to it, and it itself spawned from CI. Curiously enough, very little if any CI was contained in the final report, and no, not even talking redactions. It straight up was not included.
So yeah, hopefully we can spry open that door a little bit more with some extra elbow grease and peek behind the curtain.
Having impeachment as the reason you are going for that information is an advantage in court.
But the House has that oversight without impeachment.
What a baby. I love freezing air conditioning. I want to wear a hoodie in July, damn it.
You would think that they would leave healthcare alone after 2018 but going after it is going to be what really hands us all three branches.
Am I being hoodwinked but I'm actually happy what Nadler did today?
Obviously what he did is kind of muddled, but at minimum he managed to stop the bleeding of "Impeachment is Dead" that was building yesterday. And at best, he's given an ounce of momentum and some incentive for activist and voters to pressure their Reps during summer recess to get onboard the impeachment train.
I would prefer for Congressional Dems to be leaders and bring the public along with them on impeachment, but if during the summer recess voters can shock their Reps into doing their job then that could get us moving forward with an impeachment proper at the beginning of September with plenty of time to get through the whole circus before the 2020 election swings in full force.
If you care about Impeachment and sending a message to this criminal President, bang the drum to your Rep, EVEN if they're already on board. I know I'm going to keep nagging Mike Levin, so he understands his job depends on maintaining his full support for impeachment and fulfilling his oath of office to uphold the constitution.
Obviously what he did is kind of muddled, but at minimum he managed to stop the bleeding of "Impeachment is Dead" that was building yesterday. And at best, he's given an ounce of momentum and some incentive for activist and voters to pressure their Reps during summer recess to get onboard the impeachment train.
I would prefer for Congressional Dems to be leaders and bring the public along with them on impeachment, but if during the summer recess voters can shock their Reps into doing their job then that could get us moving forward with an impeachment proper at the beginning of September with plenty of time to get through the whole circus before the 2020 election swings in full force.
If you care about Impeachment and sending a message to this criminal President, bang the drum to your Rep, EVEN if they're already on board. I know I'm going to keep nagging Mike Levin, so he understands his job depends on maintaining his full support for impeachment and fulfilling his oath of office to uphold the constitution.
Yeah, Nadler did a solid for everyone by doing what he's doing. Without it, even with the news of more people being open to impeachment, I feel like the momentum would be lost.
I'm thinking by September, either impeachment is happening, or it will never happen. Kinda like how Boehner got booted post recess.
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Scoop: Sen. Rand Paul postponed the vote on a bill to sanction the Russian Nord Stream 2 pipeline, and has privately urged colleagues to oppose sanctioning it https://www.thedailybeast.com/nord-stream-2-sen-rand-paul-fights-sanctions-on-russian-pipeline …
9:18 PM - Jul 26, 2019
Scoop: Sen. Rand Paul postponed the vote on a bill to sanction the Russian Nord Stream 2 pipeline, and has privately urged colleagues to oppose sanctioning it https://www.thedailybeast.com/nord-stream-2-sen-rand-paul-fights-sanctions-on-russian-pipeline …
9:18 PM - Jul 26, 2019
Just saw a clip of Pelosi on tv saying "they can espouse their own opinions on impeachment, they can be mad at me for trying to go about this in the most determined, positive way. They can go about it the way they are, it only gives me more leverage."
Seema Verma always reminds me of Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle and I'm not even sure why. They're both women with dark hair and they're both villains?
Credit to the people that silenced that idiot who shouted Pochahontas
I also imagine that musician making that crack about Warren was likely very off script.
No, seriously, I thought he disdained things like Hollywood fundraisers and implied that people who benefited from them weren't ~~~grassroots~~~ and couldn't relate to the ~~~working class~~~.
How can I put it more simply? Based on watching him for decades, I believe @BernieSanders is a phony. Not a monster like @realDonaldTrump but a phony. I'd prefer him massively over Trump. But I'd prefer a cardboard box over Trump.
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) May 6, 2019
That Twitter message leaves out a lot of detail and misrepresents the facts (mainly that Utah is full of shit).
And while they may not provide the enhanced funding because they hate the law (and have signed on to the effort to dismantle it now making its way through the courts), it's something that's at their discretion because Utah is full of shit (a Democratic administration would have told them to get fucked too).
Utah could have easily followed the law (and the will of the voters), and they wouldn't have needed an exception.
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He's giving the Mormons more reasons to not show up for him or the Republicans.
I don't think they will be more than negligible. But if you want to be mad about wasted money and precedent we can use once we are in power to fight climate change I'm not going to stop you. It's mostly bad news, but it's still in line with how much I thought he was going to get done when he got elected.
IMO Republicans dropping out now of all times may suggest they're worried that the right-wing is too crazed and unstable. Trump is literally nuts, and every day finds a new way to shoot them all in the foot.
It's like hanging on to a burning party bus that is on the way to payout city, except you know, it's on fucking fire.
I have wondered if Trump and Republicans going after the so-called squad could simply backfire. The MO of Trumpism is to go completely over the top with insane claims and ceaseless coordinated attacks from the right-wing propaganda industry.
Doing that to women (at least women who aren't Hillary) can really piss people off, especially other women who aren't republican stepford wives.
It's like hanging on to a burning party bus that is on the way to payout city, except you know, it's on fucking fire.
I have wondered if Trump and Republicans going after the so-called squad could simply backfire. The MO of Trumpism is to go completely over the top with insane claims and ceaseless coordinated attacks from the right-wing propaganda industry.
Doing that to women (at least women who aren't Hillary) can really piss people off, especially other women who aren't republican stepford wives.
The Utah GOP already did that (and it's not going to make a bit of difference in the voting booth).
This is a thing because they ignored the voters and decided to implement a noncompliant expansion (reducing eligibility and imposing work requirements). As such, they need approval for federal funding (because they're not following the law).
The administration is within its rights to tell them to stick it (and we would have done the same, for better reasons).
Wait, does this make my official commemorative challenge coins more valuable or less valuable?!
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