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Doesn't make sense, it is like when we said there were too many Mario coming close to each other and they still sold incredibly well.
While Immortals' opening area/hour is fun gameplay wise, it leaves a lot to be desired in terms of performance. Like, holy shit, this is running sub 30 fps basically all the time. And you can definitely tell by eye already.
I wonder if I should just wait for the Pro to play it, should push it to the desired stable 30 at least, even without a patch. (I don't believe it's unlocked?! Else 60 might even be possible, I guess)
I wonder if I should just wait for the Pro to play it, should push it to the desired stable 30 at least, even without a patch. (I don't believe it's unlocked?! Else 60 might even be possible, I guess)
That's unfair for both games tbh.
Pikmin 3 DX had two addition story segments + a new control scheme + co-op.
Skyward Sword is HD (obviously), was pushed from 30fps to 60fps and had a total rework of its controls.
As someone with a modded Switch, I can assure you that yes, the Xenoblades go from ugh to gorgeous on the Switch screen simply by running in the docked profile. They're very nice at native res.
If anything highlighting BotW2 will make people more hungry to play Zelda ASAP and that will help SS. They won't release anything before SS though (someone on here was saying shadow drop of WW and TP after E3 lol).
I can never not point out that 60fps mods for classic Zeldas don't exist for a reason. That took work and testing on Nintendo's end, believe me.
Nintendo can't talk about Zelda without overshadowing Zelda, and they don't want to overshadow Zelda, so really they won't talk about Zelda of any kind.
(Or they'll just talk about Zelda idk I don't make E3)
True..I mean, they couldn't even be bothered to have Mario 64 run above 30fps and 720p on the current Switch.
N cannot talk about Metroid beacuse it will damage Metroid
Lol at that shadow drop idea.
I think it's time for a family reunion.
First Record Store Day drop of the year is today. My insane ass set an alarm for 6am, and here I am awake at 4:15 and catching up on this thread because I can't go back to sleep 🙃 At least some retail therapy will be a nice distraction.
I didn't think I'd have my hopes dashed as quickly as they were seeing the file sizes for the Halo games. I mean, I could at least see the first game come over with compromises...but shit Nintendo, where are the 64GB cartridges? Honestly even if devs were better about optimization and compression specifically for Switch, 125GB with reduced texture quality and longer load times just would not fit onto a 32GB cartridge with 'additional downloads required'.
All the above mentioned are excellent choices. From third party games, I'd love to see Rocket League benefit from DLSS if at all possible for a UE3 game. Dynamic resolution when it's running at 576p on handheld is rough, to say the least. Hell even if DLSS can help boost the resolution to dedicate a little more efforts to the framerate so there's less need to choose between quality of image or quality of performance would be simply outstanding.
I didn't think I'd have my hopes dashed as quickly as they were seeing the file sizes for the Halo games. I mean, I could at least see the first game come over with compromises...but shit Nintendo, where are the 64GB cartridges? Honestly even if devs were better about optimization and compression specifically for Switch, 125GB with reduced texture quality and longer load times just would not fit onto a 32GB cartridge with 'additional downloads required'.
All the above mentioned are excellent choices. From third party games, I'd love to see Rocket League benefit from DLSS if at all possible for a UE3 game. Dynamic resolution when it's running at 576p on handheld is rough, to say the least. Hell even if DLSS can help boost the resolution to dedicate a little more efforts to the framerate so there's less need to choose between quality of image or quality of performance would be simply outstanding.
And now we have to hope that they will spend more time and effort releasing patches for a simple revision than for ports and remasters?
Well, personally I don't expect it.
I remember before Nintendo's Direct at E3 2019 some media were hyping it up, since they knew the content of it (except for BotW 2). I kind of hope to get that same hype from them.
Pretty tired of this mentality
Skyward Sword having a new control scheme and its framerate improved up to 60 fps ins't hardly touched
Pikmin 3 having new story segments and a new multiplayer mode isn't hardly touched
This is reaching N64 games on 3DS are ports levels of absurdity.
Ok, you are right and I have expressed myself wrong. I was referring to graphical improvements, which are expected with hypothetical patches of Switch Pro.
If Nintendo has not made it a priority to improve the resolution of Pikmin 3 on Switch, why should I think that it is going to spend time and resources to improve the resolution of Xenoblade 2 on Switch Pro with a patch?
If Koei Tecmo never fixed the fact that Hyrule Warriors runs 1080p on handheld and therefore has a bad framerate, why should we expect a patch for Age of Calamity?
(I'm not talking about games that will be better without touching them because they are of variable resolution, I'm talking about patches).
Babish? In this thread?! Nice
Freedom is at hand
Soliani's well deserved joy makes this one of my favourite E3 moments
They did at least make some effort with those games.
Still, there's no excuse for Mario Sunshine and Mario 64 running at only 30fps in the 3D collection though , is there?
It's that lack of effort that concerns me more, when it comes to talk of boosting older games.
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Who is saying they'll improve the graphics? They're not going to go in and add new textures, models or lighting to old games when the revision hits but that's not what people are asking for. People are talking about frame rate/resolution boosts. And the visual changes Nintendo have made to Skyward Sword HD are frame rate and resolution boosts, so this entire comparison is flawed.
Every Zelda 3D/HD remaster/remake has had quality of life improvements to fix perceived flaws of the original without completely revamping the experience. It would be unusual if Nintendo don't do this with Skyward Sword, and if anything, the last decade of Zelda remasters suggests we should expect these quality of life changes because they've happened consistently. They might be restricted to minor fixes, and people who want a non-linear experience won't suddenly love Skyward Sword, but there will be changes beyond what we've seen.
I suspect they touted the new control scheme above anything else because that is the biggest perceived barrier to entry for this game.
making skyward sword fun without motion controls would be remarkable. i guess the jury is still out on that though (until july i mean).
Yeah, but they are charging you € 60 for those improvements in Skyward Sword. I highly doubt that there are going to be many patches to improve the resolution or framerate of older games. Some will have better resolution and framerate because they were unlocked, but I don't expect much more. Just like New 3DS.
So you pay 60 € for the game and 60 € for the improvements? Didn't know that the game cost 120 €!!!
I just watched Arlo's predictions videos and groaned when I heard him say this lol. I don't understand it whatsoever, if anything revealing BotW2 and getting people excited for it will boost Skyward Sword sales. Its not like both games are going to be released on the same day or actually anywhere near each other
3D All Stars isn't some representative standard of how Nintendo treat all of their legacy games.
In 2020 Xenoblade got a remaster which used a new game engine, overhauled textures, character faces, lighting, and which included a remastered soundtrack, and new content. Just last month we had full remakes of the first two Detective Club games.
Yes, 3D All Stars was a package which didn't make changes and that's lazy. But it's not as if it's a company wide policy whereby every single re-release has no work done. We had a Mario port just four months ago that had movement speed and the camera adjusted and new content added, for example. Nintendo's re-releases actually show a varied approach and sometimes yeah, that results in disappointing efforts.
The question of what support Nintendo give their Switch titles on the revision isn't going to be answered by looking at these re-releases, though. What's the point of a massively improved Switch if that improved performance doesn't apply to software across the board?
They're charging for the re-release because it's a standalone Zelda title and they know they can charge that. What bearing does that have on how they approach patches for Switch revision support?
By all means, I can see why people think Nintendo might not bother with 'Pro' patches. But saying that Skyward Sword HD somehow strengthens the argument against Pro patches is nonsensical.
wait, i thought thought the "no zelda because SSHD" was specifically about a Zelda 3D All Stars that would make SSHD look like bad value, not about BOTW2. Come on now.
I was referring to Arlo's video where he said something like, he only expects a small BotW2 trailer at E3 and a full reveal in August after SSHD releases, which is just silly lol
I mean still though, Skyward Sword is a 'new' port so regardless the people who want to play it are still going to buy it even if they announce WW/TP. It's just a matter of spacing out the releases though, both will sell extremely well
I think it's fair to suspect Nintendo's approach to enhancements for existing software will be inconsistent. Maybe they only support the evergreen sellers, or maybe they add support when titles join a Nintendo Selects range, to give additional incentive for people to buy existing software in the years ahead.
If anything, Nintendo's inconsistent approach to ports and remasters should be the model here. Some games get visual overhauls, some don't. Some get new content, some don't. There isn't a one size fits all approach from Nintendo and as much as I'd like to see enhanced support across the board, I think it's more likely to be inconsistently applied.
If anything, Nintendo's inconsistent approach to ports and remasters should be the model here. Some games get visual overhauls, some don't. Some get new content, some don't. There isn't a one size fits all approach from Nintendo and as much as I'd like to see enhanced support across the board, I think it's more likely to be inconsistently applied.
This is what gets me when discussing re-releases and their price point, the assumption that everyone has a copy of the original sitting on a shelf.
I own a battered Mario 64 cart, never played Sunshine, and sold my copy of Galaxy ages ago. 3D All-Stars was a steal at ∼45€ day one, let me tell you.
link's awakening was three months away, skyward sword is releasing in 1 month.
So why miss an opportunity to promote the franchise as a whole, and raise the profile of the impending Zelda release, as well as future releases that will be further away than Skyward Sword?
There's a new interview about Famicom Detective Club on Famitsu; with Sakamato, and Asada from Mages.
www.famitsu.com
Asada wants to make a new FDC game. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
Switch『ファミコン探偵倶楽部』インタビュー。企画の発端から開発中のエピソードを少年探偵ばりに聞く【ネタバレあり】 | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com
Nintendo Switch（ニンテンドースイッチ）でフルリメイクされた『ファミコン探偵倶楽部 消えた後継者・うしろに立つ少女』。本作の開発秘話に迫る開発者インタビューを掲載！
www.famitsu.com
Asada wants to make a new FDC game. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
For all intent and pur purposes, I think LA was a new game. While SS is a remastered port and still Nintendo showed BOTW2 with LA.
I endorse this.There's a new interview about Famicom Detective Club on Famitsu; with Sakamato, and Asada from Mages.
Switch『ファミコン探偵倶楽部』インタビュー。企画の発端から開発中のエピソードを少年探偵ばりに聞く【ネタバレあり】 | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com
Nintendo Switch（ニンテンドースイッチ）でフルリメイクされた『ファミコン探偵倶楽部 消えた後継者・うしろに立つ少女』。本作の開発秘話に迫る開発者インタビューを掲載！
Asada wants to make a new FDC game. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
2017 was the best year in terms of heavy-hitters, beyond that it was pretty barren in terms of 3rd Party & Indie Support.
From 2019 onward, the overall support for the Switch has been a lot more steady and varied.
In an ideal world we would get the same number of heavy-hitters as 2017/2019 + strong third party and indie support.
Skyward Sword is just as different to BotW as Link's Awakening is
There's a new interview about Famicom Detective Club on Famitsu; with Sakamato, and Asada from Mages.
Switch『ファミコン探偵倶楽部』インタビュー。企画の発端から開発中のエピソードを少年探偵ばりに聞く【ネタバレあり】 | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com
Nintendo Switch（ニンテンドースイッチ）でフルリメイクされた『ファミコン探偵倶楽部 消えた後継者・うしろに立つ少女』。本作の開発秘話に迫る開発者インタビューを掲載！
Asada wants to make a new FDC game. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
That's great to hear.
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