Bullying is actually a serious issue, getting spammed is a bit different
Bullying is actually a serious issue, getting spammed is a bit different
When supporters of a candidate I don't like does canvassing it's called bullying.
Are you able to see people in your contact list and who they voted for? Are you entering your contact's info into Bernie's database without their approval? How exactly does it work?I have already signed up for it and I can tell you that there is no option to put contact information for these people (email or phone). You simply log them in to match voter registration. This is done to tell the campaign where to canvas more efficiently so that they're not wasting manpower.
"It's kind of stunning how a bunch of these people running for president haven't gotten ahold of [a list of top past contributors] and said, 'What can I do to get this person?' " fumed a hedge-fund honcho out of the loop for the first time in two decades. "It's sort of basic political IQ."
🤣🤣🤣"Everyone wants to seem relevant," one prominent investor told me. But for the first time he or any of his friends could remember, "we're just not fucking relevant. We're not that big of a deal anymore. None of us!"
"A lot of the donor community is worried about losing their presidential perks and ambassadorial gigs to baristas," said veteran New York Democratic fund-raiser Robert Zimmerman. "It's long overdue."
Anyone else ever watch Fox News just to see what they're saying? It's unreal the disingenuous garbage they spew. And this is what millions watch daily as their actual source of news.
Right like dddWhen supporters of a candidate I don't like does canvassing it's called bullying.
Are you able to see people in your contact list and who they voted for? Are you entering your contact's info into Bernie's database without their approval? How exactly does it work?
That seems wildly impractical considering how door-to-door canvassing is. How do you use it?
I hope you guys choke on your closed-door fundraiser canapes."Everyone wants to seem relevant," one prominent investor told me. But for the first time he or any of his friends could remember, "we're just not fucking relevant. We're not that big of a deal anymore. None of us!"
"A lot of the donor community is worried about losing their presidential perks and ambassadorial gigs to baristas," said veteran New York Democratic fund-raiser Robert Zimmerman. "It's long overdue."
Oof, this reads as cult behavior to me. M4A is a great goal as is making college free or more affordable... but this is just creepy.
Oof, this reads as cult behavior to me. M4A is a great goal as is making college free or more affordable... but this is just creepy.
Oof, this reads as cult behavior to me. M4A is a great goal as is making college free or more affordable... but this is just creepy.
Isn't socialism like half the content now that AOC and Bernie are the primary enemies.That concerns me since my job at Universal Studio would randomly have Fox News on. One segment it aired is how Socialism is bad
Oof, this reads as cult behavior to me. M4A is a great goal as is making college free or more affordable... but this is just creepy.
You could say any rally is cult like behavior. If anything it cuts against the narrative that Bernie people arent willing to do the hard work of organizing, this is a good thing, no? I was at one of the 4700 of these, Nina was just getting people pumped up, have you never heard Nina before? The important thing to take from this is Bernie has a very dedicated, very large group of organizers who are getting started early building a huge database. This will pay dividends in the primaries, and noone else can claim a faction of his ground game.
Yeah, I don't love religious behavior in politics either. The part about this that bothers me even more, aside from it feeling like a cult situation is that it accentuates the "magical thinking" problem of this campaign--- for instance the notion that people demonstrating would somehow override opposition in a theoretical Sanders presidency with a Republican majority that could block legislation.It is a bit creepy to me. I'm assuming Nina's drawing from her church roots (she does this at every rally) and people seem to love it, but it is quite off-putting to me personally. Then again, I feel this way about a lot of religious behavior and would prefer it not be a part of politics.
A lot of them would make excellent cabinet picks if they don't make it out of the primary. Like, put Castro in charge of DHS and have him wreck shit up. Inslee could run the Department of Energy. etc.There are so many good candidates it seems ill advised to be on only one bandwagon.
Either way, Turner has repeatedly shown herself to be a liability to the campaign.
No you dont get it they arent trying to smear Bernie which is why he will lose if he wins the nomIsn't socialism like half the content now that AOC and Bernie are the primary enemies.
Instead of campaign-based intel gathering to build up a database of likely supporters to talk to door to door, regular supporters are supplying the info of likely supporters that the campaign can talk to door to door. It's way more efficient this way; exponentially.
I am trying to read more about this BERN app without actually downloading it or accessing it myself so take the below with a grain of salt, because maybe it's fake:
Is this a real screenshot? Because it's it does kind of feel weird to me for a campaign to basically crowdsource personal details about you from your friends and family. I am trying to retreat from using Facebook and other social media for this very reason, and don't particularly love the idea of friends being able to add my data so I can get targeted blasts from a campaign.
It's a bit creepy though, isn't it? They're asking people to report on their friends and family.It's a website, not a downloadable app. I took a screenshot of desktop version here:
If you are registered to vote, that information is already publicly available. The app simply links that information to their database, with the supplemental info about who you support and who added you. There are no blasts sent because there is no email provided. Without this tool, the campaign could've found you anyway if you're a registered voter.
It's a bit creepy though, isn't it? They're asking people to report on their friends and family.
I get it, but every campaign does this one way or another. Every campaign has lists of registered voters, and tries to ascertain who is likely to be supportive from any number of sources. No email is included. The only difference is the crowdsourcing. Anyone who knows your name and place of residence can already look up voter reg data. Creepy, maybe, but endemic to every campaign.It's a bit creepy though, isn't it? They're asking people to report on their friends and family.
I get it, but every campaign does this one way or another. Every campaign has lists of registered voters, and tries to ascertain who is likely to be supportive from any number of sources. No email is included. The only difference is the crowdsourcing. Anyone who knows your name and place of residence can already look up voter reg data. Creepy, maybe, but endemic to every campaign.
It's a website, not a downloadable app. I took a screenshot of desktop version here:
If you are registered to vote, that information is already publicly available. The app simply links that information to their database, with the supplemental info about who you support and who added you. There are no blasts sent because there is no email provided. Without this tool, the campaign could've found you anyway if you're a registered voter.
No, I mean what else it asks and how it frames it all.
No, I mean what else it asks and how it frames it all.
"No one is better suited to talk to your friends and family about our movement than you! Add everyone you know:"
Which feels like a proselytizing thing, you know turning people into missionaries for the political movement. Then there's the questions:
"Who are they to you? Do they already support Bernie? Who else might they support? Are they a student? Where? Are they in a union? Which?"
It's normally the kind of information you'd consent to give yourself, but instead they have someone doing it for you without your consent.
It's just kinda creepy to me is all. If you want my information ask me for it, don't ask my friends or family. They don't have my consent to tell you that kinda thing.
I can tell you that other campaigns aren't asking you to give your friends and family's information to their campaign.
Also, as an aside, I know Voter Registration Rolls are public but....how easily are they typically assessed? I do not see the ability to see this information en-masse for my state, I can only check my individual record.
It's still creepy as hell. If Bernie canvassers start showing up at people's doors or they start getting leaflets targeting them specifically people are going to be weirded out.I get it, but they don't really need your consent unless you have a legally binding confidentiality agreement with them to not share whatever it is that you've told them.
Then those campaigns will be at a disadvantage when it comes to ground game.
I saw your post before the edit. Yeah, maybe not even worth it. If it actually evolves into something major may be worth discussing, but everything points towards a Trump / 4chan kind of disgustingness. Will edit it out.
If Bernie canvassers start showing up at people's doors or they start getting leaflets targeting them specifically people are going to be weirded out.
It just feels like you're getting informed on. It's a bit like "tell us if they aren't down with the revolution and we'll go talk to them" ya know?