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A Statement on Engaging Members & Past Conduct
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If you click on a user to bring up their little card you can then go to their profile page and hit "find all threads by {user}". Based on that you may wish to put them on your ignore list which will also hide any threads they have created.
I think personal responsibility should surely trump this crazy proposal you are suggesting here. The forum layout is fine.
I'm still not sure why splitting into Gaming, News, and Off-Topic is "crazy". What is so crazy about it? It sounds like your position is more along the lines of "it wouldn't be helpful to me personally, therefore it's stupid", which I would argue is not very respectful of people who have valid problems with it.
Note also that it wasn't my suggestion originally, I just happen to support it
I would support the arguments that have been made in favour of this. I too feel a profound effect on my mental health when surrounded by negativity, and it distracts from the main reasons I'm here.
How many servers are there? I'm surprised I was able to browse here effortlessly.
How do I gain the ability to post new threads?
How do I gain the ability to post new threads?
How will this forum handle known individuals/personas that promote or defend bigotry, hate, and ignorance?
These are not past actions done on a distant forum but something they profit from today.
If a known GGer supporter were to join this forum am I suppose to play dumb to the fact of their behavior simply because they use to post on a different forum?
These are not past actions done on a distant forum but something they profit from today.
If a known GGer supporter were to join this forum am I suppose to play dumb to the fact of their behavior simply because they use to post on a different forum?
The news on world politics and opinions about it that fight bigotry, hatred and simply not giving a fuck is and has always been a giant part of why I was happy the old OT existed. If you don't care for those topics, it's easy to not click on them. If you do care, it would be horrible if we also would censor them, hide them away or otherwise pretend they wouldn't have anything to do with everyday life. There are literally tons of other forums and platform that better suit your wishes then.
As far as I'm concerned, ResetEra is and should be aware that politics exist, and that they do matter when it comes to the world and even for hobbyist things like video games. It's important to know about this, and it's important to know about facts and information, about how to improve social standards and opinions. It seems laughable that, this shortly after the old OT was literally shut down because of this, people would come over here just to promote the same idea of keeping "negative" news off the site.
I'm sure the staff will make the right decision here and whatever keeps the world talking will be allowed to keep ResetEra's OT talking.
As far as I'm concerned, ResetEra is and should be aware that politics exist, and that they do matter when it comes to the world and even for hobbyist things like video games. It's important to know about this, and it's important to know about facts and information, about how to improve social standards and opinions. It seems laughable that, this shortly after the old OT was literally shut down because of this, people would come over here just to promote the same idea of keeping "negative" news off the site.
I'm sure the staff will make the right decision here and whatever keeps the world talking will be allowed to keep ResetEra's OT talking.
I don't disagree they should be welcomed on the forum. I just don't see how it follows that saying "here is an area of the forum just for this", that is still open to all, and just as visible as OT and Gaming, and not hidden away in any way shape or form, is somehow "keeping negative news off the site" or "censorship". As for "pretending they wouldn't have anything to do with everyday life", do you also believe that video games "have to do with every day life"? Because discussion of video games is also in a separate forum, no different than what people are suggesting for politics and news.
And lastly, while it may be easy for you not to click on them, I think it's unreasonable for you to assume the same of other people whose situation you don't know.
If they're promoting bigotry, hate, and ignorance on this forum, you should report them. You could also mute them.
Am impressed that we can flag posts as inappropriate. Also we can read when required mod comments on when something is out of line. This is a really good feature.
Regardless if it is done on this forum. If JonTron comes here with the only talk about RDR2 he should not be allowed to join this community.
That kind of decision is beyond my paygrade :)
Regardless, point taken.
EDIT: This post was a mistake and I well overstepped my boundaries. Please disregard what I have written here. Apologies for the confusion.
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To be honest I felt this way at first too, but the ignore feature here is much better lol. I respect the decision to give people a chance though.
The ignore feature is very good. I highly encourage people to use it for the reams of bad posters who will never do anything worth banning but will also never write anything worth reading. I would also like to note that we take the readability of this forum very seriously and will be flexible with the moderation here for extreme problem cases (while always remaining fair and transparent about what we are doing and why).
Dude. What? JonTron? Is this really what we're about? Please reconsider.
I'm all for clean slates within reason, this is taking it too far.
I'm all for clean slates within reason, this is taking it too far.
JonTron might already be here under a user name not as obvious as "JonTron" anyway. No point in stressing over variables
This forum is (was?) supposed to be a place where women and minorities would feel safe and welcome.
The notion that you'd allow someone to post here who publicly spewed race hate and stupid white displacement theories mere months ago just because he did it elsewhere is bullshit. I am appalled kristoffer , we'll leave here just like we left GAF if this lax moderation you're suggesting is put into practice.
The notion that you'd allow someone to post here who publicly spewed race hate and stupid white displacement theories mere months ago just because he did it elsewhere is bullshit. I am appalled kristoffer , we'll leave here just like we left GAF if this lax moderation you're suggesting is put into practice.
To be clear: Jon Tron has no place on our boards and is not welcomed. Sorry for any confusion.
Thank you Nicole, I had no doubts on where you stood on this. Please get the rest of the mod team singing from the same hymn sheet.
Thanks for this direct and clear message.
And I appreciate the entire team that have, and will, work to make this forum welcoming.
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Nice to see a fresh start, been a long time since I posted on forums - but I look forward to chilling with ya'll again!
I just wanted to say, that even though I was a "member" of the [insert old community name here] forum, I never really felt like a contributor. There was too much history and inertia in place for passing posters, like myself, to feel like we made an impact. I hope to remedy that here.
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Reseters!
Also, this site is giving me a new attitude lease. :3 Back in the old days, when someone antagonized me, pissed me off, or just astounded me with stupidity, I would incessantly argue with them until it eventually turned into a big fight. Because in those days, using the ignore/block function was seen as a cop out - like, running away from a fight. Glad to say I don't see things that way anymore! In order to preserve this site's harmony, I don't care if I end up having a hundred people on ignore - and vice versa, I ain't letting people get to me no mo'!
So this is pretty interesting to me A) since I have no idea who JonTron is and B) because this is, I believe, the first example of a proper red line drawn by the Era administration.
Based on a quick wikipedia read, it seems he's a YouTuber with an anti-immigration views, who also said wealthy blacks do more crimes than poor whites in some interview. So that I understand the site policy, is it the latter in specific that is the reason he is not welcome? Or are people with critical views on immigration not welcome?
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He literally expressed fear of minorities diluting the gene pool
Well that's bad. His Wikipedia is well managed, or maybe I read it too quick. In any case, good to understand whether discussion critical of immigration can be had here. We had some pretty hard debates about EU immigration policy and integration of immigrants in the old place, but it also got a lot of people banned there.
I like how everyone is shown as a "member." Really disliked how some people were treated because they had a junior member status.
Just noticed that a poster on this page was banned. Then I remembered that one of the big selling points was transparency, and how we could easily see why a user was banned. I had to dig a bit to find out why the user on this page was banned, and while I did ultimately find it, I wonder if it's worth making it easier to find. For example, could the actual "Banned" tag under the user's name just link directly to the exact post that triggered the ban? Not sure if this is going to far, but it would increase transparency (not saying the transparency isn't already great btw, just an idle thought that came to mind the first time I tried to actually take advantage of the transparency and figure out why a user was banned)
SweetNicole Question related this. Not 100% sure of how legitimate it is, but I saw a screenshot of a Discord chat discussing certain people that registered on this forum who had been bad actors in the past. They do not appear to exist as members now, and I was wondering if there is a formal criteria for walling off these types of users.
It's allowed quite a few in, so far, as well as stalkers from the hate sites. Apparently a clean slate is more important than the safety of users.
Are you seriously advocating that some users shouldn't be allowed to join because of hearsay and backseat modding from people that aren't involved in this site (for good reason)? That's pretty much bullshit in its highest form.
This place doesn't need the most toxic actors nor give them a platform to promote themselves.
That seems exactly contrary to shinobi602 's original post, which I'll quote here:
I've got to be honest, I'm a little bit concerned that the witch hunts are already starting.
I'd like to see some proof that they are "the most toxic actors" rather than hearsay from someone that's not involved with this site and who is having a complete meltdown because he can't be authoritarian here.
What you and the other posters are suggesting goes completely against the pretences set out when this site was set up. It goes against any moral argument, and quite honestly starting witch hunts against members that aren't signed up, or haven't been give a fair shake here is very concerning.
You really shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.
Nicole already said JonTron has no place here. Why would other bad actors be excluded?
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