Not false equivalency. Just my personal opinion. I love they work and will consume then. Regardless they opinion. I couldn't care less about theyr opinions. I just like they work. And in some cases is not done from they alone. But from a lot of people
Nanking is talked about a lot and information is freely and easily accessible. The issue is that there are plenty of people who have power and platforms who downplay/deny it. So to a lot of people its something thats part of an ongoing debate. Unlike German warcrimes.Nah, You are right, and I overspoke. Standard textbooks do touch on war crimes: comfort women, and Nanking specifically. It is my impression, however, that they are sparse in details and death counts are systematically lower by orders of magnitude, and not only in right-leaning textbooks. My statements earlier were from a hazily remembered anecdote of Nanking getting a small paragraph while the bombs got pages in a standard textbook.
Do you know how many war criminals were just allowed to return to their daily lives?
You have no idea what happened in Nanking, people were tortured, raped and brutally murdered at the same time, there're many pictures and videos of the actual slaughter that you can find online if you are for some reason not buying it.
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WWII Japan is just as bad as the Nazis, if not worse.
Nah, You are right, and I overspoke. Standard textbooks do touch on war crimes: comfort women, and Nanking specifically. It is my impression, however, that they are sparse in details and death counts are systematically lower by orders of magnitude, and not only in right-leaning textbooks. My statements earlier were from a hazily remembered anecdote of Nanking getting a small paragraph while the bombs got pages in a standard textbook.
Because I like to discuss and get people opinions maybe? It's good to see people opinions. It helps you to be a better person I thinkIf you don't care about a homophobic war crime denier why are you even in the thread? To proudly tell us that you don't care? That's pretty scummy.
Sugiyama dying soon or not will unfortunately not help anything, as I'm pretty sure he'll give the rights of his musics to one of his organizations.
So after his death, whenever SQEX will sell any DQ with his compositions (which will be remixed until the end of time) they will legally have to send money to organizations denying the Nankin massacre or making lives of LGBT people harder. And there's nothing they'll be able to do about it.
I am Dutch, as perhaps known we had colonies in the far east. mainly the Indies. My grandparents had family who fought with the army there with the KNIL (Royal Netherlands East Indies Army) against the Japanese invaders, some were put in Japanese camps. They never even wanted to talk about the shit they've seen there. It was supposedly even worse than the Nazis.
Yuji Horii and AKira Toriyama are pretty old too, I wonder if Squarenix will replace the three at the same time. I wonder what DQ would look like without themYeah, Sugiyama is a douche. I can't even use the "at least his art is good" side note because now he's obssessed with using reverbless MIDI now. I can't wait until he's finished working with the series, there are tons of composers that can not only emulate his style but could improve on it, too.
I hope they put gay characters in DQ after he retires just to piss him off.
Every heard of the rape of Nanking? 731? "Comfort Women"? They are worse than Nazi.
I claim because square paid him for a service. Like the programmers. Voice actors and everyone else in the process. I can't ignore all other people here because of him. I don't agree on anything he said. But in my vision I rather write to square or do a perdition than boycotting a product because one guyIf you don't want to support him, don't buy his game.
It's completely fine if you want to be this game, that's your decision to make.
But don't claim you aren't supporting him, because by buying this game that's exactly what you're doing. It doesn't mean that you agree with his views. It doesn't mean you tolerate them. It doesn't mean you're a bad person at all.
But it does mean that you have made the moral choice to purchase this game despite the knowledge that doing so is supporting this man. Which is a totally fine decision to make, but don't pretend you aren't making it.
I'm also German, and I'd argue against this. Torture, rape and murder are nothing new. They've been part of war for centuries, and nothing the Japanese did hadn't been done before, although perhaps not on a similar scale.
What it comes down to is that the Japanese did not attempt genocide. Not only did the Nazis deliberately plan and commit genocide, they did it by essentially industralizing the process of mass murder, creating a massive logistical network and accompanying bureaucratic apparatus whose only purpose was to quickly and efficiently funnel the Jewish population of Europe to various death camps, where they were to be killed as quickly and efficiently as possible.
As a joke or in a respectful way?
You have to be a special kind of stupid to think that it's "just as bad"Because you don't stoop low. In my case I'm better off ignoring ignorant people. I go meh whatever. I've seen enough to not be surprised and just ignore. Why give such people any importance? Not worth my time. I still wouldn't go over the top and wish death on people. That's just as bad.
I'm also German, and I'd argue against this. Torture, rape and murder are nothing new. They've been part of war for centuries, and nothing the Japanese did hadn't been done before, although perhaps not on a similar scale.
What it comes down to is that the Japanese did not attempt genocide. Not only did the Nazis deliberately plan and commit genocide, they did it by essentially industralizing the process of mass murder, creating a massive logistical network and accompanying bureaucratic apparatus whose only purpose was to quickly and efficiently funnel the Jewish population of Europe to various death camps, where they were to be killed as quickly and efficiently as possible.
I don't think the scale is the same, and Imperial Japan was weirdly protective of the Jewish people in particular, but the comparison makes sense a lot of the time. Imperial Japan learned from and imitated the Nazis and engaged in a lot of the same things, plus their own atrocities.
Thats gross. So you hate japan that much? Americans used fucking agent orange in a specific war. Dont call ppl out, we are humans and most if not all countries did bad shit but saying shit like this is really bad.
I'm also German, and I'd argue against this. Torture, rape and murder are nothing new. They've been part of war for centuries, and nothing the Japanese did hadn't been done before, although perhaps not on a similar scale.
What it comes down to is that the Japanese did not attempt genocide. Not only did the Nazis deliberately plan and commit genocide, they did it by essentially industralizing the process of mass murder, creating a massive logistical network and accompanying bureaucratic apparatus whose only purpose was to quickly and efficiently funnel the Jewish population of Europe to various death camps, where they were to be killed as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Maybe not from the west. But you'd be hard pressed to find many Asian countries that have very strong feelings about Germany's actions compared to Japan.It's absolutely terrible but the victims of Imperial Japan died in extreme agony and pain, and there were A LOT of victims.
They are both just as bad, especially since Japan faced very little criticism after WWII in comparison to the Germans.
Good, bet he ''loved'' it.
Got some receipts? Because that's some 1970's era thinking.That bit is way off the mark. More recently, historians have debunked this myth of the necessity of Hiroshima and Nagasaki for ending the war faster. Sticking to this narrative conversely only serves to defend the American fairy tale of the noble soldier who is saving the world from evil and can thusly not do evil himself.
From all I saw it's a great char and not used as a joke at all. That said, while they do use a female name they are neither explicitly stated to be gay or trans.
That shouldn't give him a pass. There are many old men in Japan that don't think the kind of garbage he thinks.Old ass man bought up in a then imperialistic nation having super conservative views, this isn't really surprising.
Maybe not from the west. But you'd be hard pressed to find many Asian countries that have very strong feelings about Germany's actions compared to Japan.
Why should we? He takes joy in the suicides of LGBT people and I'm sure doesn't mind violence against them either. The world WILL be a better place without him and his ilk.I think it's possible to think this guy is a disgusting piece of shit, but also not explicitly say "I wish for his death". Like, that's possible.
One thing is not related to other.The fact that the Square continue to use this guy mean they are complicit in promoting his views.
It makes their company look real bad.
That bit is way off the mark. More recently, historians have debunked this myth of the necessity of Hiroshima and Nagasaki for ending the war faster. Sticking to this narrative conversely only serves to defend the American fairy tale of the noble soldier who is saving the world from evil and can thusly not do evil himself.
Taiwan might be one of the few countries like that though. Weren't they 'relatively', treated better compared to the horrors almost everywhere else? Hell, didn't the Nazi's save a bunch of people in Nanking? There aren't thousands and thousands of old people in Asia who experienced atrocities by Germans first hand. I seriously doubt there is an 'equal' amount of coverage.I'm Taiwanese and I don't really agree with that, people here definitely despise Nazis as much as imperial Japan, mind you we were colonized by Japan back in WWII as well.
Yes it is it reflects awfully on them.
First he is not employed at Square Enix.Yes it is it reflects awfully on them.
How can you see it any other way?
They continue to employ a bigoted, racist monster in their company.
Second his work has nothing to do with his wrong political/human views.
First he is not employed at Square Enix.
Second his work has nothing to do with his wrong political/human views.
Third Square Enix can employ him if they wish without has nothing to do with off work actions/views.
While I do think he is wrong I have no right to say what he can do with what he profit with his musics.The content of his work doesnt.
But he gets royalities for his works done for S-E though and he is funding war-crime denying propaganda with the fruits of his work.
Square pay the man to use his music!First he is not employed at Square Enix.
Second his work has nothing to do with his wrong political/human views.
Taiwan might be one of the few countries like that though. Weren't they 'relatively', treated better compared to the horrors almost everywhere else? Hell, didn't the Nazi's save a bunch of people in Nanking? There aren't thousands and thousands of old people in Asia who experienced atrocities by Germans first hand. I seriously doubt there is an 'equal' amount of coverage.
That shouldn't give him a pass. There are many old men in Japan that don't think the kind of garbage he thinks.
That I agree.Also it is impossible to separate the art and the artist completely.
He reflects on his work and vice/versa.