ok, so you are believing that a PS5 carbon copy that gets all PS5 3rd party PLUS all Nintendo 1st party, wont sell, when Switch been selling mostly on 1st Party alone??What I mean by exclusives is games that can run on this Switch console but not the base Switch, which will have probably a ~60M user base by the time next gen consoles come around. Third parties will not want to completely forgo that size of a base and chase a completely unproven base on a different console.
What if nobody buys this hypothetical console? What if they hybrid functionality is far more important to the masses as a selling point than most here think? The big third party publishers are very risk averse, they will not put out full parity with next gen consoles on a completely unproven stationary Nintendo box.
About Xbox One, I think it's official that needs a permanent price drop and not only temporary deals.
Those X1 numbers are repugnant. They need a permanent price drop immediately
That won't help, sadly. There is absolutely a thing when it comes to devaluing your product when it seems like it is 'on sale' all the time.
Everyone thought the same thing with PS2 and guess what happened? Cell processor and $599 US DOLLARS.
You're naive if you honestly think next gen is a surefire Sony win based off PS4. Anything can happen. Just like PS3. Sony is not untouchable. Nor is Microsoft or Nintendo. All three are prone to missteps.
PS4 and XB1 have entered their 7th year in the market. I don't see why it should be surprising their hardware sales are dropping. It's just the usual product lifecycle. Also, they have accumulated a big installed base in the US and generating a lot of revenues through software and digital sales.
And then when you cant have it on sale, you feel the burn. MS is still recuperating from the crazy deals they had last year, Im sure they would have it at a lower price if they could atm.
Maybe the Anthem bundles will help, but this is the longest the Xbox One has gone without a sale price in a long time. And it feels like Xbox hardware is tanking because of that.
Firstly, this is a NPD thread so clearly it's the US sales that are of relevance here.Sony's failure console sold more WW LTD than the 360, outsold it month by month WW outside of the Kinect launch window.
US =! World.
So going on past performance Sony's next console will outsell MS' worldwide, because they've done it 3 generations in a row, even the generation they fucked up and still sold ~90m consoles.
The problem is next gen isn't that close. You're supposed to launch your next system when your current system still has a lot of mindshare. Those Xbox One numbers seem too low for MS to wait almost two years to launch its successor.
Isn't this an NPD thread? This is directly related to the US. Take your Bs elsewhere.
ok, so you are believing that a PS5 carbon copy that gets all PS5 3rd party PLUS all Nintendo 1st party, wont sell, when Switch been selling mostly on 1st Party alone??
what drives you to believe that scenario is possible?
With sales from Xbox going down every year. With numbers like Xbox are putting like January you guys can't see what is going on I give up.Everyone thought the same thing with PS2 and guess what happened? Cell processor and $599 US DOLLARS.
You're naive if you honestly think next gen is a surefire Sony win based off PS4. Anything can happen. Just like PS3. Sony is not untouchable. Nor is Microsoft or Nintendo. All three are prone to missteps.
And then when you cant have it on sale, you feel the burn. MS is still recuperating from the crazy deals they had last year, Im sure they would have it at a lower price if they could atm.
Maybe the Anthem bundles will help, but this is the longest the Xbox One has gone without a sale price in a long time. And it feels like Xbox hardware is tanking because of that.
the original Xbox was selling more units every year until 360?With sales from Xbox going down every year. With numbers like Xbox are putting like January you guys can't see what is going on I give up.
The brand is losing relevance every year more. They sold 6 million last year. They will have lucky if they sell 4 this year.
What reality shows me is next gen probably Xbox will sell even less consoles than this gen.
I prefer reality than wishfull thinking.
Well OG Xbox didn`t have a January with 101k or less before 360.the original Xbox was selling more units every year until 360?
It didn't reachd a fifth or sixth year either. By the way, you were describing a tendency of Next Xbox selling less than One because One is selling less every year. Xbox 360 sold way better than OG, so OG should have been selling better and better every year till 360 I guess.Well OG Xbox didn`t have a January with 101k or less before 360.
But the Xbox has been on sale. Xbox One X has been $100 for weeks now, and will be all the way through March.
Xbox360 exploded their sales after Kinect. People forget about that. They had a great momentum 2011-2013.It didn't reachd a fifth or sixth year either. By the way, you were describing a tendency of Next Xbox selling less than One because One is selling less every year. Xbox 360 sold way better than OG, so OG should have been selling better and better every year till 360 I guess.
Are you telling me that the fate of a console can change during it's commercial life and it's not written from the start? I cannot believe you. The fate of the next Xbox is written by now as we all know.Xbox360 exploded their sales after Kinect. People forget about that. They had a great momentum 2011-2013.
Dude, no one is denying the ps brand success. Its just that this is a NPD thread, we are talking about sales in north america (except mexico).Your geocentrism & myopic view of the world doesn't alter the fact that Sony has outsold MS for 3 gens, including one where their device was a year late & twice the cost at launch.
But yeah, stick to the 'USA! USA!' view.
Yeah, we have a source (EEDAR - An NPD Group Company) It got posted on Neogaf and Era over and over again.Firstly, this is a NPD thread so clearly it's the US sales that are of relevance here.
But with regards to your claim above, do you have a source? I can only see PS3 and 360 both around 84m LTD WW with no clear winner.
And we still haven't seen Sony being competitive with deals.
Your geocentrism & myopic view of the world doesn't alter the fact that Sony has outsold MS for 3 gens, including one where their device was a year late & twice the cost at launch.
But yeah, stick to the 'USA! USA!' view.
Wow, second time! :DNPD Prediction Results - January 2019
Units
1. Expy - 18,000
Congratulations, Expy! :D
It´s not like they have a choice though. Xone X is barely a year old, they can´t release another console this soon without getting in Sega territory of hardware release madness. And that´s certainly something they want to avoid.The problem is next gen isn't that close. You're supposed to launch your next system when your current system still has a lot of mindshare. Those Xbox One numbers seem too low for MS to wait almost two years to launch its successor.
The brand is losing relevance every year more. They sold 6 million last year. They will have lucky if they sell 4 this year.
Your geocentrism & myopic view of the world doesn't alter the fact that Sony has outsold MS for 3 gens, including one where their device was a year late & twice the cost at launch.
But yeah, stick to the 'USA! USA!' view.
I didn't know you had connections. A super slim and slim pro with a price reduction would be much needed.Switch is doing great. 2019 will be their first "win" (worldwide). While PS4 will be #2. 2019 and 2020 will be hard for the XBO.
Both, the PS4 and the XBO need price cuts, which we will see around April, is my guess.
Hearing some stuff about a new PS4 SKU from large retailers here. Could be the PS4 Super Slim maybe? PS4 price cut after this quarter ends? Maybe this could give the PS4 another small boost.
Yeah, we have a source (EEDAR - An NPD Group Company) It got posted on Neogaf and Era over and over again.
But the Xbox has been on sale. Xbox One X has been $100 off for weeks now, and will be all the way through March.
But the Xbox has been on sale. Xbox One X has been $100 off for weeks now, and will be all the way through March.
I don't think that will.
Unfortunately for Microsoft their last marketing deals weren't good.
Depends on when that digital only SKU launches and how well it performs. If it doesn't launch until June or later, April might be under 100K and if that happens May will almost certainly be similar.so, is xb1 gonna' dip below 100k a few times this year or what