Tankies are a lost cause so don't even worry what they think. They're useless fools. I hope that the US sends a lot of weapons to the Ukraine. If Russia is going to invade then make those fuckers pay. Also, heavy sanctions should be imposed and maintained for years. Send a message that this is not something that the world will tolerate.
The US could impose sanctions alone (i.e. impose sanctions on any company doing business with / in Russia in embargoed sectors), but that may ruffle some european feathers. Much more likely we'll see a coordinated EU+US sanction, as the EU is sure to want to act too.
They have to ban Russia from SWIFT if they invade Ukraine. I still have my doubts whether the EU (aka german goverment) would agree to that
What do you mean "also"? That's the entire point.
What do you mean "end up"? There's been a war in Ukraine since 2014. Which is also the year Putin decided the "cold war train" has left the station (again). The West wouldn't do anything except finally acknowledge this.
The economy already potentially impacts his rule over the country. The entire Crimea situation was a way to try and pop the ratings up at the time and this escalation is the same thing. (Problem is people are also incredibly disillusioned with a possible Ukraine invasion because they know it would be a quagmire).
Putin has been on the cold war train since like 2008 when he invaded Georgia.
Nothing is more distracting than a war.
There is a reason why I mentioned open war, what I meant by that was an open declaration of war. As for the cold war we still haven't reached the height of the 60s. People forget that there used to be drills in schools in case of a nuclear attack, three different occasions where nuclear war was avoided by the pure composure of the actual people in those situations (not the leaders of the countries). At least we still got that declaration that US and Russia are highly opposed to nuclear war a few weeks ago. I would say we are in lukewarm territory now.
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Nobody has used those since September '39. Now people just invade whatever place they want invaded.
Yes, this is why I don't see the war happening at this point, even if Russia was to take Ukraine, then what? It would be a huge cost to get it up and running again. And where would that money come from?
I mean this is just not true. If Russia wants to take all of Ukraine it would have to go openly into war and vote it in their parliament. You can't just pretend that somehow separatists have access to planes and hypersonic missiles.
It's not only about Ukraine. It's also because of Moldova. Maia Sandu has been quite aggressive at purging Russian Mafia (basically, yet another arm of Putin's power) -aligned "businessmen" from the government and ancillary organizations.
The US never declared war on Iraq. The last time the US officially declared war was on June 5th 1942 against Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania.
Maybe not naming it in an open declaration, but as far as I remember the invasion still had to be approved by congress? No?
Though I don't think it would stretch to being used here, the 2001 AUMF has been used for all kinds of stuff without looping Congress in:
This is semantics, Congress voted on approval for "Use of Military Force Against Iraq". It's a declaration of war in all but name.
The US would 1000% support Ukraine secretly if a full scale war with Russia broke out.U.S. Considers Backing an Insurgency if Russia Invades Ukraine (Published 2022)
Conversations about how far the United States would go to subvert Russia in the event of an invasion have revived the specter of a new Cold War.www.nytimes.com
This is all highly dangerous stuff. I'm skeptical if it would actually happen because of how dangerous it would be. I guess it's being leaked to the New York Times now to try to deter Russia from invading.
This is precisely what the US and EU have done. They have selectively targeted several from Putin's inner circle. And the recent suspension of Nord Stream 2 was a direct hit to them as well (not so much to the average Russian, since the vast majority of gas/oil funds gets stolen by Putin and his cronies).
Problem is they'd need to get significant numbers in and in multiple strategic locations.
Russia demands US, NATO response next week on Ukraine
Foreign Minister Lavrov says Moscow has ‘run out of patience’ after diplomatic talks fail to produce breakthrough.www.aljazeera.com
