Maybe they overshipped it in Q3? I'd guess retailer demand was pretty high after its fantastic opening in October.
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Switch at 17.79 million worldwide units sold, as of March 31, 2018.
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Maybe they overshipped it in Q3? I'd guess retailer demand was pretty high after its fantastic opening in October.
Wrong. As of December SFV sold 2.0M units:
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
They also re-released the game in digital and retail including the base game disc+free Arcade Edition update+season 1&2 passes codes as Street Fighter V Arcade Edition this January 16th and we don't know its sales. According to Ono, SFV was approaching 2.5M so this may include SFVAE initial shipment.
In addition to this, SFV generated a good amount of revenue in DLC and season passes. We don't know their DLC revenue but as you can see looking at character usage or playing online (it's really common to see people playing with DLC characters, costumes or stages) they may have sold a lot of DLC stuff.
In any case:
-SF series sold 40M units as of December 31:http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/salesdata.html
-MK series sold 35M units as of April 2015, before MKX launch (it may be over 40M now, MKX was their best launch ever): https://www.gamespot.com/articles/as-mortal-kombat-x-arrives-entire-franchise-reache/1100-6426616/
-Tekken series already achieved 44M units sold back in March 2015 (way before Tekken 7): http://www.twitlonger.com/show/nj1i5f
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In December, Ono claimed the game had passed 2m and was approaching 2.5m.
Perhaps he was being generous with "approaching".
Of course looks like the mods don't mind drive-bys, whatever.
Good thing you made that one picture response so I would know you were "having fun".
Anyway I wasn't trying to attack the user at all. I just read it as him saying that not taking a long time to pass GameCube sales was impressive is all.
Anyway that's all cleared up.
Good thing you made that one picture response so I would know you were "having fun".
Anyway I wasn't trying to attack the user at all. I just read it as him saying that not taking a long time to pass GameCube sales was impressive is all.
Anyway that's all cleared up.
We do not have enough info to make the guesstimates your making unfortunately.
All numbers in these reports are shipped, yes. Sometimes they'll give numbers for sell-through in the results briefing slides but they'll always specify that those are sold-through.
Lol seriously...are we still arguing who has a more impressive 2 years? Or 2 holidays or whatever? Next year it's gonna be a thread titled "3 years in,who's turn around more impressive PS4/Switch?"
I mean the systems couldn't be more different from each other, compliment one another extremely well and I'm sure have household overlap. I wish it was possible for a survey to be done that showed 60% of Switch owners are also PS4 owners or something lol. We are all in this gaming thing together brethren. It is because of the initial Sony and Nintnendo fall out that these two always must be compared in such a brand favoring way? Sony and Nintendo are slaying and not basick! These are incredible numbers and both have did very good things for the industry. Heck even MS who I completely skipped this gen has done good things with b/c and Gamepass.
I'm pretty sure Zhuge confirmed XB1 was at ~35M at the beginning of 2018.
Launch aligned, ARMS is above. But the very fact that ARMS can be compared with the most famous fighting game franchise of all time should be a positive thing. The game got nice legs too without being discounted and on a tiny installed base.
I disagree, maybe these 0.5 included SFVAE retail shipment, that was released in January. It makes sense.
ALL i have is information and numbers we have. We have numbers from end of 2016(EA Gave to us) we have numbers from us ALL 2017(4.6 Million) and we have numbers from q1 2018 us(851k) ALL from npd.
So we we have numbers everything besides that is dreams.
While true it's still a month more and with 2 holidays instead of 1. They are tracking similar however we want to spin it and that shows how well both companies have done.
Yeah for NA but not enough to really understand it's world wide performance unless we got a new leak.
Then it doesn't matter because 20 million this next fiscal year puts it into rare company. And talk about what did who after 15 or 18 months will be ridiculous.
He Said around not exactly 35. With numbers from 2017 i think Xbox one was 34 Million end of 2017 ww. This year they sold 850k units in us on First quarter só problably at 35.5 at best scenario right now.
That doesn't mean anything. What source dud Zhuge get his info from? Can I get a link to his post?
I'm not saying if he's wrong or right just want to know where he got the number from.
So it's gonna pass the cube easily by mid year but will it pass N64 by years end? I think it can.
EA Gave us worldwide number from end of 2016 so we can guess rest of the World performance. Maybe not 100% but at least 90%
Sony never released info on exactly the first year, only in October 2014 where it was around 13.5 million and then in January when it was at 18.5 million. If we are doing exactly 12 months then the Switch I believe would be just ahead.
PS4 install base is at 70-80 million right? Both Uncharted and Horizon have also been on sale at some point. With Horizon even hitting $20 during some Black Friday sales.
Nintendo is notorious for having games that never drop in price.
Splatoon 2 attach rate - 34%
Zelda attach rate - 48%
Mario attach rate - 59%
Uncharted and Horizon cant compete with those attach rates. If we assume Horizon and Uncharted both did 10 mil and the PS4 userbase is 70 mil that's about 14%. Those are closer to 1-2 Switch numbers.
I explained exactly why it looked like concern trolling and not a legitimate question - because you made a statement (with a question mark in its end), and then didn't bother answering in any way to anyone except the person who said it was 3 and not 4 (who, by the way, I am not even certain was even right, since most people here continue to say 4, yet you latched on to this number without questioning it).
Bottom line, objectively, except for Mario + Rabbids there are actually no 3rd party games on Switch that should have even sold a million... It's a semi miracle even that those that did, did.
Ah, it's defnitely behind in that sense, yes, they wouldn't be able to clear that gap in a month.
Exactly, it's not even in Top 10 best selling games for 2018. in US.
It's near impossible to fully do a comparison with the 2, especially when they are so close. This is why we get so many arguments on it as there are so many different factors to consider. Shipped vs Sell-through, 2 holidays vs 1, PS4's first holiday being supply constrained etc...
Of course attach rate will be low when there are +80 million PS4s in the wild, how is that a negative exactly?
Yes, its sales are positive.
But I think it isn't fair the comparision with SFV. It had a troublesome launch with server errors, missing a lof ot important stuff and so on so SFV had a slow start compared to let's say SFIV (which also was available on Xbox).
And well, Tekken and Mortal Kombat, both in sales of recent games and the total of their series sold more than Street Fighter. I'm a huge SF fan but Tekken and Mortal Kombat are more popular than SF at least in console and PC sales.
How come both Super Mario Galaxy games sold only 12 million on 100 million install base? Smash Bros 13 million on 100 million install base?
I don't want to start a console war, and I don't root for any one company, but just purely in terms of comparison- if Nintendo hit their 20M forecast this FY then it'll be ahead of the PS4 launch aligned. So I wouldn't yet say it's on another level.
It will be interesting to compare the two as their lifetimes progress. It's great that the industry can sustain multiple hit consoles that could each reach 100M lifetime without one eating into the other.
Right, I put the ~ there to mean approximately. I was just answering about how we have the data to make the estimate you made.
He's an industry analyst who gets numbers that the public doesn't get. I don't know where the post was, but I saw it a few months ago here.
Just the fact that we can talk about the possibility of the Switch to reach such a goal is already impressive to me considering how sure a lot of people were that the Switch would fail.
