Jesus. This is only the nomination thread and we're already having meltdowns.
Video games are an interactive medium...
First of all, you're overlooking the fact that Overwatch is leaps and bounds more polished in terms of gameplay than your standard free to play and the fact that the lootboxes have an incredibly inconsequential meaning to it.
What's your issue with cosmetic lootboxes? Is it as destructive as nearly every other lootbox system implemented in F2P or (now) 60 dollars game? How do you justify the fact that based on gameplay alone I've invested 400% more of my time on OW rather than a halfassed copy like Paladins? Explain to me how do you quantify the true value of a videogame based on amount of content and not the quality of it.
I'm all ears.
go play it
So you just have no idea what you're talking about. The post you responded to had no logical fallacies. Your post, however, is built upon one. You can think that Nier is a better game than PUBG. Whether it's more important than PUBG isn't even up for debate. It's not. And if you believe otherwise, that doesn't make you just another person with an opinion. That makes you ignorant, period.
Do people still play Pyre online?I'm really bummed that the other voters didn't put Statik into the running for Best VR Game. Solid noms list otherwise. Happy that Tooth & Tail and Pyre broke through, though I'd have loved to see Pyre in the "best sports" category, since it's one of the best three-on-three team video games of all freaking time.
I sometimes wonder whether people who say things like, "2012/13/14/15/16/17 was a bad year for games" actually, you know, play games. How do people... fail to remember the actual games that were released in a particular year?
in terms of volatility im thinking:Closing in on 50 pages? Ok I take back my prediction from that other thread, PUBG winning this GOTY would definitely cause the first ERA meltdown lol.
Should be nominated for its innovation in having its servers shut down in less than a year after the game's launch.No Gravity Rush 2 nod for even art direction or best soundtrack? HERESY.
Quite a lot since I have friends that stream it. I respect how big the game has grown, but I think the game is complete shit.
"of great significance or value; likely to have a profound effect on success, survival, or well-being."Of course it's up for debate. The fact that you even think it's some kind of axiomatic rule of law is kind of horrifying. Like, it only takes a few seconds of your time to look up what the word "important" means. It's entirely subjective.
I've played King of the Kill and found it boring. Looks like a slightly upgraded version of it.
Hold on everyone, he knows people who play it.
So obviously he's in a position to call it "complete shit."
Yeah, if it wasn't obvious before that this guy has some sort of strange seething anger towards PUBG because it's popular, it should be now.
Because it doesn't matter what year you said. Literally any year would be equally as ludicrous. You can pick a random year, and that year had fantastic games released in it. Just because you or I didn't personally like some of those games, or even all of those games, doesn't change that fact. The entire premise of "Was X year a bad year" is incredibly dumb because every year for the past 20 odd years has had amazing games being released every year.Don't feel like completely shitting on your post, so I will just respond to this bit.
Yes, I play games.
I beat DA:I despite it being completely unfun for me to play through, and no I would not say it is the best game that released that year. I had a lot going on in 2014 so it's hard to remember every little piece of media that released that year. I forgot Bayo 2 dropped that year, but yeah; robbery.
Not sure why you are naming all those years when I specifically said 2014. Where are all these post saying those other years you named were bad?[
Should be nominated for its innovation in having its servers shut down in less than a year after the game's launch.
I would agree with this, except I think you should definitely swap Horizon and P5 .. I feel like Horizon has a lot of support as Sony's major first-party prestige release for 2017, and has also been gaining mindshare as the year progresses thanks to great support from GG and the recent single player DLC. Plus it is in a very GOTY-friendly genre.in terms of volatility im thinking:
pubg > horizon > P5 > mario > zelda
-aigis, imo
I said it before and I'll say it again, if this was a discussion about the game's popularity or sales, I would agree that these are hard facts. There's no denying that PUBG is one of the biggest selling games of this year (and I only say 'one of' because we don't get all the hard sales numbers for the big tentpole AAA games like COD and BattleFront II - it's entirely possible that PUBG was the top selling game this year period). But that doesn't necessarily equate to "importance". GTAV outsold A Link To The Past, but I'd argue that A Link To The Past is more important by a mile.
"of great significance or value; likely to have a profound effect on success, survival, or well-being."
Would you like to explain to me how that definition is intrinsically subjective?
No, you don't have to. It's not relevant. You can keep pointing out how the definition of 'importance' is subjective from your perspective, and I can call out your insistence that games which have had far less impact and presence in the industry and within gaming communities are 'more important'. If you can't qualify that statement against the apparent realities of PUBG's ongoing success and influence, then it doesn't matter if importance is subjective, because in that case, I'm calling you out on how you have not begun to justify that opinion.
No fighting games in the esports categories. Fighting games am cry ;(
Should be nominated for its innovation in having its servers shut down in less than a year after the game's launch.
People see different things in different games. It's not that Horizon is bad, I just don't think it was as good as others do based on my time with it. It looks beautiful but it was ultimately an empty experience and the combat wore thin after 20 hours. I would have liked more side quests and more world building. I thought the mini dungeons were fantastic and that there should have been a lot more of them. Without wanting to sound to down on the game, I thought it was pure style over substance. I enjoyed it but it's not a top 5 game this year for me.I bet the crowd that keeps saying Horizon is a bad game and does not deserve to be nominated is the same that kept pushing the narrative that the game would suck ("Guerrila never made a good game!!!") and be a critical flop before the release.
Even though I consider Super Mario World to be far more of a design achievement than PUBG for its time... I would say that Super Mario World may be less important than PUBG, if I'm speaking strictly on both its contemporary and lasting impact and influence in the industry. Which is usually the judgement criteria for what constitutes an 'important' game in gaming discussions before qualifiers are introduced. Consider, for example, how many developers have cited SMW specifically as inspiration for their games, against the clear upcoming wave of BR modes and games which will almost unanimously find themselves derived from PUBG as a base. but I'd really have to think about it, given that's the flagship Mario game for Nintendo's 16 bit console, which means it's important in other contexts. From that same perspective, though, I'd say that PUBG is definitely more important than Nier, and Nier doesn't have the same importance within the context of the PS4's library to tip the scales.Yes, because concepts like significance and value are subjective and are inherently dependent on the person that finds significance or value in the first place? Are you serious?
I already justified my opinion. Nier Automata is a more complete video game that does more from both a narrative and a gameplay perspective that is fresh, and fundamentally different from most - if not all games that came out this year. The exact same can be said about Mario, Zelda, etc. In all 3 of these cases, they helped saved the companies that made them, so their development and release stories are a neat little ribbon to the whole thing from an industry standpoint.
Super Mario World probably had less "presence" within "gaming communities" than PUBG, would you say Super Mario World is less important than PUBG?
P5 is so different from the other titles that it wouldnt cause more of a shock wave than "my game didnt win". If Horizon were to win you know the comparisons to botw would be thrown in there immediately to explain why Horizon sucks and botw is a way better game on top of everything else. Im sure Sony fans would still take P5 as a win anyways as it is a Sony exclusive.I would agree with this, except I think you should definitely swap Horizon and P5 .. I feel like Horizon has a lot of support as Sony's major first-party prestige release for 2017, and has also been gaining mindshare as the year progresses thanks to great support from GG and the recent single player DLC. Plus it is in a very GOTY-friendly genre.
On the other hand, Persona is more niche and I feel like there is a growing backlash against the game even among its core fan base.
Praying Horizon zero dawn wins, Guerrilla Games deserve the win.
That's great! So what exactly does that have to do with the actual gameplay in the main game?
Super Mario World probably had less "presence" within "gaming communities" than PUBG, would you say Super Mario World is less important than PUBG?
I bet the crowd that keeps saying Horizon is a bad game and does not deserve to be nominated is the same that kept pushing the narrative that the game would suck ("Guerrila never made a good game!!!") and be a critical flop before the release.
You keep throwing out terms without knowing what they mean.
I literally quoted you. That isn't a straw man. You literally said you knew about the game because you have friends who play it. And then managed to somehow decide it was "complete shit."
You're trolling a game that you haven't played. (Or, I'll try to give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps played for a few minutes.)
Realistically the only fighting game that could get nominated is SFV or Smash. Season 2 wasn't that well received among the FGC.
And Nintendo dont give a shit about eSports.
so despair won?