Fair enough. I'm good with waiting.well the way I see it Z-beat's in a Catch-22. Already looks scummy for not participating, will look scummier for showing up and participating after being called out. That's why I'm comfortable parking my vote there.
My understanding is that whomever is turboed in one room is removed from the game. Everyone else keeps playing, but obviously if someone from Group A is removed, then Group B's votes don't matter. Everyone can still talk until someone from the other group is voted out.I read it as the day being split in two separate voting blocks where one can only vote for the other and we get a double lynch. With the day split being the split of a real life 24h
Pretty high once I actually check in on the thread. If it pleases the court I'd like 10 minutes to make it back home
Pretty high once I actually check in on the thread. If it pleases the court I'd like 10 minutes to make it back home
Pretty high once I actually check in on the thread. If it pleases the court I'd like 10 minutes to make it back home
I could go with a Z-beat vote here. Not willing to vote yet when majority is such a low number though
Pretty high once I actually check in on the thread. If it pleases the court I'd like 10 minutes to make it back home
StellaThis may be a bunch of nothing but
WhySoDevious
What is the name of your character?
If both of us are actually sleepwalkers maybe there is a clue there
Could you give us some reads on the players you can vote for today?Right, home.
Hecht you already know how I feel about that claim. The multiple bulletproof people plus a non-tradeable vest that was never a vest but still has multiple hits to it to put the burden on town since scum couldn't without a strongman and the only other person who's the most likely potential target and did have some action on him that night and was also into investigating you is now dead makes me suspicious.
I'll give you the coasting thing since that's my typical playstyle most of the time, but I also see that as a bit of a wasted vote. It's also something scum like to push in my experience because it's easy (and usually ends up with them getting voted down the line once vote records start looking sketch).
As for the dual sleepwalker thing, it could be two, but if one is lying I'm less inclined to believe WSD. When turmoil initially claimed you didn't really do anything with that information, which seems suspect if you have a similar role. GF at least tried to question hect for inconsistencies when he claimed.
Stella is a feminine given name of Latin and Italian origin, meaning "star".
Right, home.
Hecht you already know how I feel about that claim. The multiple bulletproof people plus a non-tradeable vest that was never a vest but still has multiple hits to it to put the burden on town since scum couldn't without a strongman and the only other person who's the most likely potential target and did have some action on him that night and was also into investigating you is now dead makes me suspicious.
I'll give you the coasting thing since that's my typical playstyle most of the time, but I also see that as a bit of a wasted vote. It's also something scum like to push in my experience because it's easy (and usually ends up with them getting voted down the line once vote records start looking sketch).
As for the dual sleepwalker thing, it could be two, but if one is lying I'm less inclined to believe WSD. When turmoil initially claimed you didn't really do anything with that information, which seems suspect if you have a similar role. GF at least tried to question hect for inconsistencies when he claimed.
How could I have possibly made that mistakeYou must have missed my clarification where I said I only had one vest, and my explanation as to why I claimed so.
I do have issues that you only ever seem to show up when you are called out, though.
I have X, where X is greater than 1 and, say, less than 4. 1 was used.
Luna is an Italian , Spanish and Romanian given name of Latin origin meaning Moon.
Yes you missed plenty
I'll admit I took a gamble there. I claimed multi-shot BP/vests.
I only had one.
My having a BP strongly suggests the inclusion of a strongman.
I had hoped that it would bait a strong kill if scum was dumb enough to believe that I had more than one. It's incredibly rare for anyone to have multiples. With my vest gone, hopefully they'd try to strong-kill me, which means that they weren't using it on anyone else. Now obviously I didn't know that GF had a BP as well, or else I may have done something different. I don't know.
Okay. This is gonna tie things up right now but I expect things to change promptly as safe moves are voted elsewhere, I suspect.
Vote: Stuart444
Already explained it earlier... he was the first to suggest the Teal room as a first move, which, like has been mentioned before, looks like something very benificial to Town.
This was on post 121.
Zipped voted for Teal on post 171 and was called out on it on post 190, even though he wasn't the first one to suggest that room.
Then, on post 253 he changed it to Blue - his favorite color - which is a bit more neutral. Finally settled on Purple, one of the punishment rooms, since that was the direction people were going.
Anyways, let's see what happens this last hour.
I don't like the reasons given for voting Kaz.
And two of the people who critiqued me for voting for Stuart have their votes on Kaz.
I doubt Stuart will get lynched today. Some of the safe votes will get moved at the last minute to probably take out Kaz.
Now, if Kaz turns out to be scum, well, I'll rethink my whole list then. Still lots of time to course correct.
I made an assumption - that scum and town were roughly 50/50. Now I know that it's only around 5 or 6 players. That would've made me less inclined to switch my vote at the last minute.
I changed my vote to grizzly because of the way he went after Kaz - I bought into someone's accusation of him about that vote - and because he was one of the people who disagreed with my vote for Stuart, who I still think is scum (but that is not certain in my head anymore).
Also, why didn't he change the vote for Lex? He could've at least tied the game - instead he left it on Kaz. I assumed that maybe Lex was all scum and he'd rather be him to take the hit than Lex.
Again... another assumption... definitely made an ass out of me.
I was responding to Hecht. He wanted people to go after Grizz.
Like I said, I bought into someone's accusation of Grizz's vote on Kaz. I'm gonna look up that post cause that's why I was inclined to vote for Grizz.
Like I've said before - I bought into someone's argument earlier in the day that Grizzly's vote on Kaz was suspect. So when Hecht asked who would join him in voting for Kaz, I jumped in cause my Stuart vote was not gonna go anywhere. It was also made on some other erroneous assumptions on my part.
Now that I'm at work sitting in front of a computer all day, I can go back and check who exactly was accusing Grizzly for that vote on Kaz.
Okay, I'm going over the votes during the last minutes of the games.
My theory: I can see scum wanting to go after a vocal townie (Grizzly) or a not-so-active townie - someone like Lux (cause Melon was replaced).
Some of the votes that Grizzly got were not previously on Lux - mine, Aeulus, weemadarthur, Kaz
There were two people that were waffling on Grizzly and Lux - Hecht and FEP
Hecht even tried to switch his vote at the very last minute - maybe not wanting to vote out someone who was actually playing the game and making it interesting? A scum that wants to win but doesn't want to make the game so vanilla?
I think we're giving Hecht too much of a free pass on that Grizzly vote.
A sense of wanting the game to be interesting. Going for an inactive player is an easy vote that benefits them, sure, but it keeps the game lively cause the vocal players that participate a lot (like Grizzly) make the game interesting.
That's why I was looking at people that were waffling between Grizzly and Lux - the one thing they had in common was that one had the most posts, the other the least.
I was suspecting Hecht because he changed his vote at the last minute... a vote that would keep the game livelier, more entertaining.
I dunno how active I'll be this weekend since I'm usually not in front of a computer, but I'll be reading and commenting when I can.
I should settle on a vote soon cause I don't want the deadline to surprise me tomorrow.
Godfather... Not sure why he's leading on votes right now, but I know that he was on Koplite's list and maybe a reason why he was targeted. I'm inclined right now to vote for him.
B-Dubs... One of my first feelings was not to trust people that were directing the vote towards zipped, and he certainly was the first to do this. Probably why there was a train on zipped so early in the game.
Lux... Like I said earlier, probably targeted by scum because of his low post count and considered an easy target to get a train going, which there was.
Saucy... I really felt played by the Grizzly vote and one of those reasons was Kaz's statement to look towards the people that voted for him once he flipped as town. I believed that then. Now, not so much.
*Splinter... Yeah, he has the double vote, but that doesn't clear him in my books. It could've been random. It could've been the result of a vote steal. Still unsure about the mechanic, but suspect for now.
Stuart... Still high on my list as scum. I see some mentions of him but not a lot of votes. On hold for now, but if I see a train going on him, I'd probably join.
flatearthpanda... Didn't like his waffling between Grizzly and Lux, both of which I believe were targets for scum (best vote and easy vote, respectively).
There was someone that was reading me as scum. Cant remember who it was and I don't wanna go through the posts right now. That person is on my suspect list.
Oh, forgot someone.
Hecht... another one waffling between Grizzly and Lux. He was the one who started the train on Grizzly and I feel really played by him. My theory: Thinking that maybe it was a bit too obvious what he did, scum comes up with a plan to have no kill and then have Hecht claim he was saved by a town power, the vest. I think people are letting him off the hook too quickly about the Grizzly train.
I'm here. I was out almost all morning. I have a horrible stomach bug and woke up with a bad headache.
What's the point of claiming?
I'm not a vanilla townie but I hold no power, no information, no anything. I would have welcomed something like that cause at least I could have made a bit more informed voting.
Anyways, since I guess there are some townies with some RPs that might see me doing something at night, let me claim: Sleepwalker.
When that one guy claimed sleepwalker, I thought that maybe he was lying because I'm a sleepwalker, but then someone mentioned right away that they had been in a game with two sleepwalkers, so that explained that.
But seriously, a town noob with no access to information other than what I'm over analyzing.
Could you give us some reads on the players you can vote for today?
1. BronsonLee - all over the place. Reminds me of Coolest's playstyle, so null for now
2. Zippedpinhead - I think Zipped is a neutral with some room-specific and/or survival goal
3. weemadarthur - null
4. WhySoDevious - lean scum but I guess turmoil could clear that up by cross referencing some stuff
5. Kitsunelaine - null
6. Fat4all - The role makes me think town. Didn't really agree with giving it to splinter that day though. Also where is he? Been gone all day
7. Hecht - see above
8. StanleyPalmtree - lean scum. I don't get much from the posts, kinda bandwagoned with grizzly, and voted panda and was cool with a GF vote at other times
9. Girlofgotham - pretty sure you killed and replaced Pau so you get the hardest of scum reads.
I feel like if I could pick apart that gamble by staring at it long enough, scum didn't have any problems doing the same. Adding extra BP to your role also doesn't really make a strong case for scum coming after you even more instead of another role unless there was an addition to that role or you were on the right track with something.
I'm assuming that you are saying I'm lying (my wifi is driving me nuts and there's a delay with video and audio)
Yeah, scum reading her on the grounds that she killed and replaced the other major Batman fan on this forum was very much a joke.ok so 3 scum - myself, WSD, and Stanley. Reading Stanley as scum is incredibly suspect to me
Err...I may be reading your girlofgotham read wrong, but you think she's scum? seriously? she's been great
To be fair, between hecht and aeleus it's entirely possible that's not the whole truth. iirc he was focused on two in particular that he kept coming back to.Why do you still think Zipped has some room related role when he even said that his switching wasn't due to anything, and hasn't done it since.
Eh, names don't seem that important. Mine is "Alim" so I'm really not sure how names factor into it.
I'm assuming that you are saying I'm lying (my wifi is driving me nuts and there's a delay with video and audio)
I haven't lied about anything.I'm saying we're wrapped up inside your LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIES
which we kinda are because if you lie about one thing you open up pandora's box
Gonna have to explain that one chiefConsidering this point I am questioning the existence of a doctor, then...well i dunno.
The fact that there are two BPs, to me, implies that a doctor would be extraneous. I mean it's still possible, but having 2 BP roles makes me think otherwise
My name is Luna and I am a sleepwalkerEh, names don't seem that important. Mine is "Alim" so I'm really not sure how names factor into it.
There are enough killing roles for scum to need a BP, but town only get two single shots?The fact that there are two BPs, to me, implies that a doctor would be extraneous. I mean it's still possible, but having 2 BP roles makes me think otherwise
Why?
The only thing I can think of is Stella/Luna from FFXV. Stella was the original female...uh....protagonist (I don't know how that story would have played out)? And then Luna was the one that ended up in the gameMy name is Luna and I am a sleepwalker
I raised an eyebrow the moment I read my role PM. I didn't paid attention to it later because I needed to get into the game and totally forgot
Scum had a BP, so...what?There are enough killing roles for scum to need a BP, but town only get two single shots?
Also, as far as we know we have a scum NK with possible modifiers, and a Day Vig. So what do you mean?There are enough killing roles for scum to need a BP, but town only get two single shots?