I wish I could get excited about Redfall but it just look so... average?
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I wish I could get excited about Redfall but it just look so... average?
Look I REALLY don't like to make these "Fire this person posts" but Starfield is literally now the most important game in Xbox history.
Marketing for it needs to be on a level we haven't seen since the 360 days.
If Starfield is just left to release like any other GamePass game, without a marketing cycle out the ass, then I'm sorry, the buck has to stop somewhere.
Starfield is TOO important for marketing to be muted on.
Starfield needs, as what I can only described as, an "Event".
It needs billboards, theatrical spots, a contest to play Starfield in SPACEwith SpaceX/Virgin Space, Bundles, Bus Ads. It needs a God of War level marketing and anything less is simply a failure.
MS let Bethesda do their stuff for Starfield etc. and just give them your money/resources, they know it better 😛
Clearly so when Xbox twitter doesn't even post the Redfall trailers 😭
failure or not campaigning for somebody to get fired unless they're legitimately a horrible human being is lame imo. I do agree that advertising for Starfield needs to be extremely aggressive and similar to what Sony does with its titles, though. we'll see
WTF? your acting like if MS don't make starfield an 'event' then they will be leaving the console market.
seriously if they don't advertise starfield to the max, all that will happen is lower sales, its not gonna be a massive effect like you think
That's pretty much every Arkane game pre-release, and then they turn out to be some of the best games of the gen. I'm super excited for Redfall because Prey was one of my favourite games last gen.
A few execs have talked about how they were thinking of spinning off Xbox after the face plant. The famed meeting where Phil pitched a streaming service to Satya to 'save' it might not have been SO dire but at the same time, the fact you're having that meeting says a lot.
Also, several insiders on this site at the time were talking about there being a real possibility the division was getting closed. There was tons of pushback, but give what we know now about the situation at the time, it seems like the insiders might have been on to something.
Having paid very close attention to Xbox over those same years you weren't, I would personally say the rumors were true. Xbox was on its last legs and the Game Pass pitch saved it. Myerson leaving, Phil getting promoted to the big table, and Satya becoming fully committed, are what turned the ship around imo.
Then they should be content in 3rd place then 🤷♂️
There was a time when in NA, Xbox has unanimous with "Video Games". When you mentioned video games, people thought of Xbox.
They had great 3rd party advertising, and Halo/Gears/Forza wasn't quite played out yet.
Xbox needs to regain that mindshare, and that starts with marketing.
Not making an "event" out of the marque game that from a company you paid 7 Billion for isn't serious?
Starfield is one of the most anticipated titles I have ever seen. It's going to get plenty of attention, both from critical praise, as well as a marketing campaign from Microsoft. It will be a smashing success.
At the end of the day, it is video games. The post reads like you're gonna lose a leg if Starfield doesn't get a push.
i'm apparently the minority opinion but it looks just like an Arkane game to me lolol. i'll eat it up anyways because arkane and also cuz it looks cool to me idk 🫡
the incredible marketing machine behind *checks notes*
dishonored
doom 2016
prey
deathloop
wolfenstein 2
and more
True, probably a tad overdramatic, but it's frustrating as an OG Xbox to see them make the same mistakes over and over again, and I believe lack of focused marketing, even on GamePass is one of them.
For crying out loud, making other people agree they could be doing marketing the damn console we paid 299 - 499 for.
ugh we back to the disgusting 'please fire this person' posts
also most hyped gamepass game for next year needs it's release date, so it better show up at an xbox event
indeed :)
I don't think it is that serious. even without a huge marketing budget the game will do well...and Xbox will continue to thrive.
tbf Prey was sorta doomed in the sense that the Human Head Prey 2 controversy made people hostile at the proposal of another studio handling the IP and doing something entirely new with it (regardless of how good it came out). not to say they didn't do a bad job at marketing, just things weren't going to go their way anyway if you asked me
I think it looks very Arkane-y as well.
I'm also a huge fan of looter shooters with enemies like water balloons ready to pop color-coded guns. So, I'm personally very excited for it.
It's little things like this:
www.windowscentral.com
Phil had to use a THIRD PARTY website to show off end of the year stats when it's something that should have been in the cards since start of 2022.
Sometimes it the frustrating death-by-a-thousand paper cuts.
Xbox is the only platform that didn't offer your 2022 end-of-year gaming stats — that's odd
PlayStation, Steam, and Nintendo all offered end-of-year gaming stats, but not Microsoft's Xbox.
www.windowscentral.com
Phil had to use a THIRD PARTY website to show off end of the year stats when it's something that should have been in the cards since start of 2022.
Sometimes it the frustrating death-by-a-thousand paper cuts.
That's part of their problem. The games aren't bad, the perception is. They need to present themselves and their titles better.
It's little things like this:
Xbox is the only platform that didn't offer your 2022 end-of-year gaming stats — that's odd
PlayStation, Steam, and Nintendo all offered end-of-year gaming stats, but not Microsoft's Xbox.
Phil had to use a THIRD PARTY website to show off end of the year stats when it's something that should have been in the cards since start of 2022.
Sometimes it the frustrating death-by-a-thousand paper cuts.
More like death by one big cut (lack of games)
Thank you. That was the more precise less "Xbot Twitter Fanboy Meltdown" way of what I trying to say.
We have the Xbox fridge but not the Xbox Bowl. Give it to me Phil. 😡
PS Marketing really is on another level.
Would it kill to copy even like 50% of that?
they had their best year ever in 2022 let's see what 2023 brings :)
Let's use Occum's Razor Here isntead. Stock in Japan has been low for hte last few weeks due to stock being diverted to the US/EU. It's not that hard that you need to start saying Famitsu is overestimating. Famitsu also doesn't track sales from Amazon so the numebr may actually be short by a few thousand.
they def tried but i don't think they managed to semi-successfully explain what the game was until the TGS Xbox port reveal trailer. i Did Not watch every single deathloop™ trailer out there though so i could be wrong
I really do truly hope so.
I'm more than willing to take my lumps in 2023 if I've proven more than wrong.
I'll even change my PFP to a picture of Greenburg with a heart on it.
I know when I'm wrong and will take my lumps in stride.
Hell just look at my ill-advised Avatar game thread 😭
No? What major benefit does that have for the player lol. Let the actual game be good.
Insider gaming had an article where they said Redfall has been internally delayed by six weeks to may. I think they want to stick to the cadence of having redfall first and then Starfield. I could see Starfield coming in July or August.
What would be the benefit of forcing Redfall first then Starfield? That'd be crazy IMO, delaying games for arbitrary reasons.
i don't think that would be too bad since PS5 and series are selling at a higher pace than their predecessors (even with the issues with demand). the important thing is xbox doing well, not it doing better than PS5 (since it wont do that)
Truth be told I'm not sure. I could be wrong though, and things can change internally at any time.
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