The NYT has not been a trusted single news source since the Iraq war. They're not worth dismissing outright bit they're also not staunchly progressive either and all of their articles should be checked amongst other, more reputable sources.
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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT2 | Warren's college tuition plan includes cancelling college debt
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Too bad an anti-imperialist fell for the myth that Tulsi is actually a dove.
Not sure what you're reacting to, but if you are wondering about his endorsement plan he notes it here:
I don't believe in a single trusted news source and every news source should be checked against other reputable sources. Having said that, every independent fact-checking organization I've seen pegs them as leaning more left than right.
Well yes to your first point.
As to your 2nd point that's Overton windoe problems. I wouldn't call the NYT left and going off of what your personal policies seem to be, I don't think you would either.
oh god.
Yeah that's what I was talking about. Thanks.
So just to be clear a couple of rich, overprivileged teens have decided to create a Gravel campaign in which he, uh, attacks the "establishment" and advances his anti-imperialist stance by endorsing homophobic, racist, Assad ally Tulsi Gabbard?
Great plan.
I don't know enough about them to say from personal experience, just saying what the fact-checkers are saying:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times
Also:
democrats and republicans being the same isn't an uncomfortable truth
I'm no fan of the Democratic Party but that is just obvious false equivalence bullshit
I've always seen him as that too. In 2016 he always stuck to policy, and from that the party has shifted amazingly towards his policy. The only fault I could give him is staying in the race well into the 2016 primaries, but I feel like a lot of the platform items wouldn''t be there if he didn't do that.
Reading the last few pages of this thread is enough to make me want to tune out politics completely until the 2020 election. I mean, I won't because it's important to me, but goddamn people, Bernie, Beto, Harris, Pelosi are not evil incarnate. Some of y'all I swear need to let go of some of your hate it can't be healthy.
I still favor Beto but, I think Bernie is going to take it this time. And you know what? That's fine by me. He's old, puts his foot in his mouth, and his supporters are damn near insufferable at times, but, he's a true progressive and I believe he's sincere. I'll happily vote for him, and I expect everybody in this thread to vote for whichever Democrat wins regardless of how "safe" your state is.
I still favor Beto but, I think Bernie is going to take it this time. And you know what? That's fine by me. He's old, puts his foot in his mouth, and his supporters are damn near insufferable at times, but, he's a true progressive and I believe he's sincere. I'll happily vote for him, and I expect everybody in this thread to vote for whichever Democrat wins regardless of how "safe" your state is.
Left or not, do we know already if the times piece was fabricated?
Cbs was also reporting as a fact that some top donnors were plotting on how to stop Sanders.
Cbs was also reporting as a fact that some top donnors were plotting on how to stop Sanders.
I haven't seen any indication of this being the case and even people who purport that NYT favors narratives that help republicans aren't saying that they're a tabloid.
I'm not answering for this person but in my personal opinion you should not trust any one single news source. As in not taking it as gospel. There obviously has to be some level of "trust", but everything has to be taken with a grain of salt and should be verified with other sources whenever possible. I would argue that the New York Times is a trusted source of news overall (even one of the most trusted) but even they are not infallible with cases like Judith Miller or Jayson Blair.
Edit: And of course that's not even getting into personal bias which comes from every single person every single day. And if you believe that's true, then it follows that every single news source would carry that same bias given any individual piece of news.
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Big money behind Pete. I remember alot of Bernie supporters being upset about the mere assumption(false) that Beto was bundling....
I'd say that unless you're arguing that NYT is 'fake news', there's no reason to frame Bernie as the one being conspiratorial when he's basically just quoting and parroting the NYT article.
Any of those people complaining about that should definitely have something to say about this too.
Any of those people complaining about that should definitely have something to say about this too.
The media is too transparent. Once they settle on a narrative its literally all they can think about. First it was Sanders tax returns and how he hasnt released them. Now that he's released them its now about how you can't be a millionaire and want to advocate for a fairer system. Its almost as if these folks are just part of a club and they dont want to share their wealth with the rest of society.
It reminds me of shitty far right wing attacks on AOC and others because they drive cars and take planes as they talk about climate change. Cut from the same cloth almost.
It reminds me of shitty far right wing attacks on AOC and others because they drive cars and take planes as they talk about climate change. Cut from the same cloth almost.
They both suck. The only thing good about Pete is that he completely stole Beto's momentum. Even then, he's become so insufferable that I actually wish Beto was still the golden boy.
^lol
If you're including me in that, no. I'm a Sanders supporter so doing that would do me no good here anyway. I'm just saying that any single source regardless of it's history/reputation should not automatically be completely trusted and taken as 100% fact. You should get your news from multiple sources whenever possible. Simple as that.
Honestly, that Black cop wiretapping scandal has soured me on Mayor Pete. I hope Beto makes him cry.
We need a generation of Whites who grew up around Black people and are down, running for office lol.
We need a generation of Whites who grew up around Black people and are down, running for office lol.
Musicians who donated to the candidates:
https://www.spin.com/2019/04/musicians-political-donations-2020-rivers-cuomo-foo-fighters/
Norah Jones stays winning :)
https://www.spin.com/2019/04/musicians-political-donations-2020-rivers-cuomo-foo-fighters/
Norah Jones stays winning :)
lot of good people in there, Fish obviously, Oteil, Phil Lesh, Bob Ezrin's resume is pretty stacked, Quincy is the ultimate in stacked resumes
Bon Jovi = cancelled tho sorry Booker
(that was a joke)
Bernie supporters were saying fuck Beto and yay Pete because deep down they didn't think he was a threat. Now that his momentum is going out of control, let's see that tone change. Of course, I'm not talking about the vast majority of good Bernie guys out there, including some of my dearest friends in the world. I'm talking about the reddit clowns.
I almost am enjoying this. Everyone was discounting Pete. Even myself, a Beto boy.
Same here.
He's the most articulate person I've seen in politics. I thought Beto was the guy, but I never saw this coming.
Yeah, the desperation by some to cANceL anyone who's a threat to their precious Daddy Sanders is hysterical and so, so transparent.
Bernie (or Warren): The so-called democratic billionaire class are so afraid of contributing their fair share of taxes that they would rather have another 4 years of Trump. I say we must all join together and stop them.
They say they want a more just society, but what they want above all is profits. They are not satisfied with owning more wealth than the bottom two-thirds.
Or something. It'll be easy to pull in even Trump supporters when it's so transparent.
Nah. The rush to "cancel" is exclusive to the more... shall we say extreme Sanders devotees.
it's always best to leave reddit clowns on reddit
this happened a lot the last go around too, people actively sought out the reddit crazies and it made them think the crazies were more representative than they actually were
Pete does have a color issue. He should probably spend some time in black communities doing town halls and letting people get to know him before going on Fox News. I was really into Pete at first, but I've slowly become underwhelmed.
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