Educate me.You really shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.
Nicole already said JonTron has no place here. Why would other bad actors be excluded?
Educate me.You really shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.
Nicole already said JonTron has no place here. Why would other bad actors be excluded?
That seems exactly contrary to shinobi602 's original post, which I'll quote here:
I've got to be honest, I'm a little bit concerned that the witch hunts are already starting.
Then educate yourself on who the discord screen shot is about before stopping them at the gates. Because its definitely not people harassing or doxxing anyone.I have interpreted that completely differently than you apparently. To me it says petty grievances with other uses at the door. That person who said something bad about the game you love? Squashed. Person called you a bigot when you did nothing wrong? That's in the past. Person supported a candidate you disagreed with? It's over. It doesn't say people guilty of harassment, doxxing, or certain serious offenses be entitled member status. If a certain owner from another forum were to register should he be allowed to post? In my personal opinion absolutely not.
Then educate yourself on who the discord screen shot is about before stopping them at the gates.
Read that post again, pay attention to the word "who".
Pretty sure Besada deleted that twitter account three plus hours ago. I doubt he remade it to post that. Likely an out-of-site troll.
It isn't my place to spread the business of others, but I know that the most you've been privy to is some out of context screenshots. I have a good idea about where you saw them as well.
I'm well aware, thanks for your concern though.It isn't my place to spread the business of others, but I know that the most you've been privy to is some out of context screenshots. I have a good idea about where you saw them as well.
I'm not here to shit up this thread, but it may be best to not speak on things you don't know the history of. That's just my opinion though.
You can see his old tweets as well, like this. Seems legit to me?
He's been the direct target of multiple rounds of doxxing.Address what?
That this person needs to get off the computer for a while?
How am I supposed to know the who of a screenshot I can't see?
Besada is calling the bore a hate site, which is somewhat hilarious. Sure there is an obsession about the old place, but it's nothing other than laughing at public posts really. Not stalking like voat and such.
+1This drama is really unfortunate and I hope we end it as fast as possible.
Yeah. Keep resetera in resetera rather than trying to police ongoing outside of it.As far as I can tell there is no ResetEra member by the name of besada.
I don't think this community, and in particular the admins and mods, are obliged to address what random people say off-site - even if negative about ResetEra like this person seem to be doing.
Who is going to police that? Who is going to do the work in verifying that off-site people are who they say they are? That would veer close to doxxing.
Better to focus on making this the best gaming forum it can be.
Yeah. Keep resetera in resetera rather than trying to police ongoing outside of it.
I'm no jontron fan, and please know none of my posts have been about jontron, but I think allowing people to come here if they wish and speak for themselves, defend themselves against hearsay if needed, and state their position as it is now is important for keeping the transparency that the mods have instilled so far.JonTron isn't welcome because of things he did off the site. That's already established as a precedent.
This idea that bad behavior is only bad if it happens here is naive at best and actively duplicitous at worst. A doxxing that doesn't happen here is still not cool, for example.
Wait, I'm a little behind. Is there a site dedicated to doxxing members here?
Am I safe?
I mean, there are like 5. They're the same sites that were dedicated to doxxing the old place.Wait, I'm a little behind. Is there a site dedicated to doxxing members here?
Am I safe?
Wait, I'm a little behind. Is there a site dedicated to doxxing members here?
Am I safe?
I feel unsafe knowing that people who doxx, stalk, and hate follow are openly allowed into this forum.
I'm no jontron fan, and please know none of my posts have been about jontron, but I think allowing people to come here if they wish and speak for themselves, defend themselves against hearsay if needed, and state their position as it is now is important for keeping the transparency that the mods have instilled so far.
I feel unsafe knowing that people who doxx, stalk, and hate follow are openly allowed into this forum.
I didn't say you did. Just adding context.
Yo again my posts are not to do with jontron.
Don't worry, they are not.I feel unsafe knowing that people who doxx, stalk, and hate follow are openly allowed into this forum.
Adding context or trying to stir up shit with baseless accusations? hmmm
I mean, being a reset from the last place is one thing.Well, that's the problem, isn't it? The entire website is a reset, a do-over, a fresh start. Clean slates for all! To leave the baggage in the past and march proudly into the future. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, etc.
But while the spirit of that idea is a strong one, it ignores the basic reality that people are judged on their past actions. Hell, thats the reason the LAST website we were all on imploded. To cast a blind eye, to pretend that everyone who joins is a fresh newborn who no ill intentions, is naive and foolish at best, and openly antagonistic to the membership at worst.
I'm no jontron fan, and please know none of my posts have been about jontron, but I think allowing people to come here if they wish and speak for themselves, defend themselves against hearsay if needed, and state their position as it is now is important for keeping the transparency that the mods have instilled so far.
Bore members have used their platform to shit on users here and at the old site.You should be. People are just unhappy that people from a site(Bore) aren't being prevented from joining.
Not allowing people to join because of hearsay and false claims isn't transparent. Letting them join and prove those claims are false is.That's not what transparency means. Obviously it will be up to the mods to draw conclusions on a case by case basis -- that is a very big part of being a mod on a forum if it intends to be inclusive and welcoming, particularly to vulnerable groups within a sometimes incredibly toxic gaming community -- but if they make the decision not to allow someone in, to be transparent would be to explain their reasoning, not to overrule their own judgment.
Literally nothing happened, bar besada's twitter meltdown.Wait, what happened with safety here? I haven't been proactive recently, did something happen?
You should be. People are just unhappy that people from a site(Bore) aren't being prevented from joining.
Some people here will interpret that we indeed doxxed people. We haven't. They need to have receipts to make that claim, and you know very well they'll use your post as evidence of such claims.
That should clear that up. Thanks.
I"m not accusing anyone of anything. I responded to a post where someone said "this person needs to get off the computer for a while". You can read the tweet in isolation and think that. He's been on the receiving end of a lot of ugliness. Which is context relevant to what he was saying. You can certainly still think that, which is fine but I thought it added to an understanding of his perspective.Adding context or trying to stir up shit with baseless accusations? hmmm
'S a pretty shitty site with some pretty shitty behavior, breh.You should be. People are just unhappy that people from a site(Bore) aren't being prevented from joining.