In the even that he is fired, he'll find a job in another department in no time.Truitt says he plans to file a complaint against the officer in the video. Hopefully the officer is fired but I'm not holding my breath
In the even that he is fired, he'll find a job in another department in no time.Truitt says he plans to file a complaint against the officer in the video. Hopefully the officer is fired but I'm not holding my breath
I won't debate you anymore. You're right.You're still not understanding that respectful black people get shot and killed too.
Again, there are no best decisions to make outside of the comfy confines of Internet thought experiments.
He did nothing wrong.
Get the fuck out of here, young black men are being murdered in this country by cops like this.Yes and that was a clean cut cop in the wrong. This event I feel is different. The cop was wrong to say he had a gun and the guy driving used that as an excuse to refuse to comply to any further instruction.
And even then you might still get shot lol.If a cop has a gun on me and asks me to do something that could give him an excuse to shoot me, I'm not doing shit.
Still a bad look especially because he didn't have the gun where the cop said it was. If you can't deal with someone moving to do the command you told them to do, you shouldn't be a fucking cop, period. Additionally, owning a gun is legal so I am unsure how the cop could be right in any circumstance here.Yea because he quickly moved his hand out of frame, guessing the cop freaked out and assumed the worse.
Not when you're a minority.But I thought we had the freedom(!) to have guns 🤔 maybe the cop never heard of the 2nd amendment. That must be it
Still a bad look especially because he didn't have the gun. If you can't deal with someone moving to do the command you told them to do, you shouldn't be a fucking cop, period.
I agree with you 100% on all you said, and it shouldn't be in the civilian to defuse the situation! Of course some cops use every excuse to kill African Americans! But
I'm going to assume you're interactions with police officers are few and far between, and that you don't follow the news very regularly.
The cop tells him to turn off the car because he wants him to move his hands too quickly. Period. He has a gun drawn, shouts "He has a gun" and as soon as he realizes that the man is filming, he changes his demeanor. This wasn't the cop trying to diffuse anything, or solve anything, it was a cop who was out for blood, plain and simple. If the cop kills him, he gets a free vacation and his cop buddies will say "well we thought he had a gun, so it was justified, he feared for his life".
Everything the citizen did here was absolutely correct. Everything the officer did required that response. If a cop has a gun on me and asks me to do something that could give him an excuse to shoot me, I'm not doing shit.
I updated my comment when I realized i wasn't clear. He did have a gun but it was not reachable from his position in the car from the article I read. So the cop is still in the wrong and owning a gun and carrying it is legal. Seems like if he was really concerned he would've asked him to step out of the car versus pointing a gun in his face.For the record, he had a gun. Does no one read the description in the video?
The way American cops behave, you would think it's the deadliest job on earth.
I agree with you 100% on all you said, and it shouldn't be in the civilian to defuse the situation! Of course some cops use every excuse to kill African Americans! But if there's a slight chance something can be done to better your chances, if ever so slightly, in your favor of not provoking the cop and shoot you then I'd take it. Talking back at the asshole with the gun pointing at you I don't think helps in that department. That's all I'm saying. I'm there with you calling out this asshole!
Facts.Shouting out 'He's got a gun' when that is provably false should be a criminal offense.
Aiming a gun at someone while barking out contradictory demands should be a criminal offense.
Removing someone from a phone they are using to record an arrest should be a criminal offense.
Listening to orders is no guarantee you won't get killed. Acting against orders might be the only way to save your life. It's fucked.
For the record, he had a gun. Does no one read the description in the video?
The cop was not aware of this nor was the gun within reach of the ignition. You're essentially arguing
What is this bullshit.....Yea because he quickly moved his hand out of frame, guessing the cop freaked out and assumed the worse.
I hope the case gets tossed.
We are not showing the identity of the officer pending an investigation.
The cop was not aware of this nor was the gun within reach of the ignition.
You didn't read correctly if you think I'm at all defending that pig. I'm going to leave this thread now but not before repeating, again, that that cop was 100% wrong, should be fired and should stand trial for this.
Shitty ass cop is shitty but can't shake the feeling this guy filming only made things worse. I dunno how I would've reacted but it wouldn't be like that.
Still, shitty cop.
Shitty ass cop is shitty but can't shake the feeling this guy filming only made things worse. I dunno how I would've reacted but it wouldn't be like that.
Still, shitty cop.
yo if a cop has a gun on me and says "he's got a gun", I'm not moving my hands for the rest of the weekI agree. The filming defence works for the first part "hes got a gun" fine keep your hands up but after that he should have explained to the cop that he was going to turn off the ignition and defuse the situation. Instead of waiting to be pulled from the vehicle while the car was running.
The guy was literally reaching for ignition. The cop very clearly didn't see the firearm. It was very clearly a case ofTruitt himself says the officer spotted his AR-15 on the backseat of his car.
The cop was DEFINITELY IN THE WRONG from start to finish. However I want the facts to be clear because the video has a pretty detailed description of the events (and someone also posted a news article) yet a lot of people don't seem to have read it.
If you believe that, then why did he repeatedly refuse to turn the ignition off even in front of the other cop right there watching?
Fuck that cop but nope, that "acab" mentality is idiotic and destructive. I cringe whenever I see that shit sprayed on somewhere, usually by some soccer hooligans.
Edit: Germany here, btw. We probably have a better good-cop-ratio than you but still.
The guy was literally reaching for ignition. The cop very clearly didn't see the firearm. It was very clearly a case of
*Cop orders minority to do something*
*Minority complies*
*Cop uses movement as an excuse to shoot, later saying he felt threatened*
The cop already had a gun out for no reason. Cop training in the US is a huge joke and this is yet another example of that being true, and not the only example that we could refer to today.
Truitt says the officer spotted his AR-15 on the backseat of his car.
Then they would've got him for turning his car into a weapon for leaving the vehicle without putting it in park.Would've made more sense to tell him to leave the car if he was so afraid of the gun in the back.
As it is just looks like looking for an excuse to shoot. Also when the civilian is more calm than the cop...that's a problem.
Then they would've got him for turning his car into a weapon for leaving the vehicle without putting it in park.
The police also did not charge the victim with any gun-related charges, which speaks pretty loudly to who was in the wrong here.Truitt himself says the officer spotted his AR-15 on the backseat of his car.
The cop was DEFINITELY IN THE WRONG from start to finish. However I want the facts to be clear because the video has a pretty detailed description of the events (and someone also posted a news article) yet a lot of people don't seem to have read it.
He probably would've been shot had he not been filming this exchange.Shitty ass cop is shitty but can't shake the feeling this guy filming only made things worse. I dunno how I would've reacted but it wouldn't be like that.
Still, shitty cop.
Are we even watching the same video? The cop said turn off the car and he was talking shit non stop till they cuffed him.
The cop said turn the car off so he could justify shooting him by saying the guy was reaching for a gun. He literally tried that bullshit on camera and was caught red handed.Yea because he quickly moved his hand out of frame, guessing the cop freaked out and assumed the worse.
Just to get this out of the way:
Then they would've got him for turning his car into a weapon for leaving the vehicle without putting it in park.
Quite literally less than a second passes betweenJust to get this out of the way:
Quite literally less than a second passes between
*Shut the car off*
*Guy moves to shut car off*
Cop:HE'S GOT A GUN *Points gun*
I would say that there genuinely couldn't be a more overt situation where a cop is very clearly out for blood, but unfortunately this is the United States of America and I'd be wrong.