Access to your hopes and dreams...This seems prototype 1 what's the black smudge in the middle? What is it hiding? there is one ractangle on the right too hding something.
Access to your hopes and dreams...This seems prototype 1 what's the black smudge in the middle? What is it hiding? there is one ractangle on the right too hding something.
Yesssss. All the insane cooling gives me hope this isn't just a beast, or a monster, but a KAIJUAPUs gives the highest performance per watt out of all solutions since you don't have to power the bus between discrete CPUs and GPUs. You also don't have to spend budget on two heatsinks.
A large APU is the best you can ask for.
Why would they do that ? There's litterally no benefit since it's the same vendor for both the cpu and gpu.
That'd only raise the price and the complexity.
And dev kits aren't an indicator of a cooling solution. Look at the PS4 dev kit.
I wonder if devs have scarlett dev kits, surprised we haven't seen one yet, MS stuff always leaks.
Where can I find it ? Edit: I've found itOne thing to keep in mind here particularly if the actual hardware being used is super close per the rumors is that Richard from Digital Foundry mentioned during that EGX 2019 talk posted yesterday
Maybe they'll have an Enhanced PS4 Games Sale on the day of the PS5 launch.
Never forget the grandma who buy video games at Christmas. You will have PS4 exclusives put in PS5 box. With that, you artificially increase your lineup.This confirms that PS4 BC will recurve Pro like patches to add functionality. I could see them labeling PS4 games in 2020 as PS5 and PS4 like Xbox one does with BC 360 games
Gonzalo is 99% ps5 Richard said.Yeah, his comment is at the 05:38:50 mark of the video here https://m.twitch.tv/videos/496199730?t=5h24m20s. Note that he makes the comparison of Red Dead Redemption 2 putting out 4 times the pixel count of base PS4 not fully adding up based on just TF specs, so my additional comment about 2 times the pixel count of PS4 Pro in many games is extrapolation based on previous times that they have made those same observations during Digital Foundry video comparisons and such. It will be interesting to see what Cyberpunk 2077 is actually going to run at on Xbox One X and PS4 Pro, the Xbox store does list it at 4K currently. I will probably wait to play that game for the first time on Xbox Scarlett next generation hardware though.
I'll be doing the same. I'm pretty much done with AAA releases the rest of this gen.Then why get it at al... surely by the time the PS5 comes along it will be at least half the price... along with whatever extras that would have been released between now and then. At least that's what I am hoping. I've got this little fantasy where I get DS, TLOU2, FF7R, and Cyberpunk all on the PS5 for under $150.
It should be interesting being that I only buy digital.
Also they simulating it using 36cu 1800mhz 8.2tf... still they got almost 2x gpu power vs xox. Also they explain why we shouldn't be dissapointed with tf numbers. To be honest if it is 8.2 I would be dissapointed a little but probalby because I spent too much time reading this topic haha Edit: I make mistake, they simulated both also using 40cu 1800mhz 9.2tf, uff ;dYep, it seems that way for sure. I do find it interesting that we don't have squat for Scarlett leaks. Maybe Microsoft threatened legal beheading for any leaks.
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Also they simulating it using 36cu 1800mhz 8.2tf... still they got almost 2x gpu power vs xox. Also they explain why we shouldn't be dissapointed with tf numbers.
If not Klee leak I would be almost certain that ps5 is 9.2tfYep, which they estimated would be close to that Navi 5700 9.2 TF type target in terms of Navi Flops equivalence as has been discussed on here, i.e. we aren't getting 12 TF Navi consoles :)
Just no more piano black lolI wonder if the Black and silver color scheme will be used in the PS5. PS3 vibes...
Thank God Klee told us both Xbox and PS5 are above 10. There is nothing to smile about.Yep, which they estimated would be close to that Navi 5700 9.2 TF type target in terms of Navi Flops equivalence as has been discussed on here, i.e. we aren't getting 12 TF Navi consoles :)
Ha talked with Cerny so he probably know little moreLeadbetter said he doesn't know the CU count and doesn't entirely believe the 1.8Ghz clock speed either, i.e., he has no more info than anyone else here.
Thank God Klee told us both Xbox and PS5 are above 10. There is nothing to smile about.
I would say that if they are 10 and more that 7+ node was used.His comments clearly indicated that supposedly they were both double digit, but also that people wouldn't be blown away by the specs either. So it sounds like they have at least shared with devs that they are intended to be above 10 and not by very much, which isn't a huge difference from 9.2 in the big picture either I guess.
That doesn't mean anything. I don't see why we need to speculate on this when the guy has flatly denied having any real info on the GPU and all of DF's next gen talk is based solely on the Gonzalo leak and official statements from Sony/MS.
It is a huge difference when this thing is going to be out for 7 years. We need every last bit we can get.His comments clearly indicated that supposedly they were both double digit, but also that people wouldn't be blown away by the specs either. So it sounds like they have at least shared with devs that they are intended to be above 10 and not by very much, which isn't a huge difference from 9.2 in the big picture either I guess.
It is a huge difference when this thing is going to be out for 7 years. We need every last bit we can get.
He said in df ps5 rt video that Cerny told him that ps5 soc will be "smart design" or something like thatThat 50\50 since we went over that and he never said he talk about PS5 with Mark.
Cerny design goals have always been the same since PS4 if that was what he talking about.
Anyone expecting 11 plus is out the realm of sensibility. 10.7 aligns with the most optimistic numbers we have. 9.2 with the most pessimistic.Hey, I want every last bit of power there too, just doesn't look like anything is 11+ here though.
Yessir. Exactly what I was thinking.Maybe the devkit isn't anywhere near final and is running discrete CPU and GPU - i.e. not final silicon - and doing so with the closest equivalents, the GPU being 5700XT clocked at 2GHz+ to get to 10TF+. That would require some beefy cooling.
Final hardware then goes a bit wider and slower - anything from 44CUs @ 1.8GHz to 52CUs @1.6GHz to get the in same kinda sorta envelope.
9.2 most pessimistic ? I would say rx5700 performance wouldn't be tragic and thats aroud 7.8tf naviAnyone expecting 11 plus is out the realm of sensibility. 10.7 aligns with the most optimistic numbers we have. 9.2 with the most pessimistic.
Would be funny if Sony sent different developers the devkit but with the company logo in different positions. Person at the company think they're hiding who they are, Sony know exactly what developer based in what area of the console is blacked out ;pThis seems prototype 1 what's the black smudge in the middle? What is it hiding? there is one ractangle on the right too hding something.
I think the middle one is hiding the company name that got the devkit since companies may have gotten devkits with their names written on it.
The rectangle one must be a small screen showing the name of the game running like the XB O X devkit.
jason said that both are targeting to surpass stadia's 10.7TF in raw TF number iirc.
Make senseMaybe the devkit isn't anywhere near final and is running discrete CPU and GPU - i.e. not final silicon - and doing so with the closest equivalents, the GPU being 5700XT clocked at 2GHz+ to get to 10TF+. That would require some beefy cooling.
Final hardware then goes a bit wider and slower - anything from 44CUs @ 1.8GHz to 52CUs @1.6GHz to get the in same kinda sorta envelope.
According to the retailer -- ProGamingShop -- the PlayStation 5 will cost 500 euros, which translates to roughly $558 USD.
I feel u r way too invested in Xbox being stronger that when we finally see ps5 is indeed stronger you will find stuff (crazy magic that u say it doesn't exist now ). Cause when mind doesn't accept something it will create alternative realities .Every post you make reads the same way lol . Give it a rest maybe and wait and see what happens ?One thing to keep in mind here particularly if the actual hardware being used is super close per the rumors is that Richard from Digital Foundry mentioned during that EGX 2019 talk posted yesterday that paper TF specs alone definitely do not explain how the Xbox One X can get 4 times the pixel count of base PS4 (6 TF versus 1.84 TF) and 2 times the pixel count of PS4 Pro in many games (6 TF versus 4.2 TF). Heck, Cerny himself said that he thought 8TF was necessary for 4K and we got native 4K on Red Dead Redemption 2 on the X. So we truly don't know much at all about eventual real world game performance a year out considering that both companies may be doing things in their architecture with cache, latency, draw call efficiency (the ultimate foundation of any graphics pipeline) and so forth. That is why consoles are more interesting than "off the shelf" PC parts.
Note that I do not believe that there is some crazy magic that will suddenly enable one or the other to have a huge performance advantage if the hardware is truly so close, just that eventual relative performance to each other cannot be credibly assessed a year out for the reasons I cited and final driver tweaks and everything else that can come (you see updated Nividia and AMD drivers all the time right when new GPUs launch that improve performance).
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9 rdna tflops is more than vega56 10.7 tflops so he would be right.jason said that both are targeting to surpass stadia's 10.7TF in raw TF number iirc.
no, in RAW TFs, as in the actual number regardless of architecture, at least, that is what his post read like to me based on the wording.9 rdna tflops is more than vega56 10.7 tflops so he would be right.
I feel u r way too invested in Xbox being stronger that when we finally see ps5 is indeed stronger you will find stuff (crazy magic that u say it doesn't exist now ). Cause when mind doesn't accept something it will create alternative realities .Every post you make reads the same way lol . Give it a rest maybe and wait and see what happens ?