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Nier: Gestalt Mafia IOTI: Weiss you dumbass! Start making sense and play mafia!!!
- Thread starter lokiduck
- Start date
He's been at the bottom of my list for a little bit just on gut feelings but what Fanto mentioned last night (quote below) made me start thinking about it more.
When I went back and looked through things from Salva it felt like they putting too many hypotheticals in the air that could be an attempt to muddy the waters. It's a fine line of throwing out some points that need to be discussed and throwing out points to distract and I think he might have slightly gone over that line. Maybe I'm letting Fanto's thoughts sway my own too much there but that's kind of what I am feeling.
Want to hear my full claim ?
I am Kaine the miller.
I had one Vigilante shot that i used on Hagi.
Sucks that it looks like i killed fran, since i did not even get a message telling me that it failed.
I Suspected that i would be checked sooner than later.
Its a lose lose scenario at this stage since i believe what you are claiming to be.
Sucks but i totally get that i will be voted out today.
You checked me and you hit scum, caliming miller is too easy to be true i know i know.
Since i will be the one to leave today can we talk about who is going to get shot ?
Our King still has a shot left.
here is my claim Reki. Not sure how you could have missed it since everyone else read it.
Bolded the important part
First, I meant N3, sorry.
And wow I misread horribly then. This is what got me confused;
I shot @Hagi and he survived last night.
Be strong and have courage @jman1954goat and let us cross over that Promised Land together. My shooting target will be Hagi.
"Shooting target" got me, apologies for the confusion.
Reminder protect Mrhedin at all cost tonight.
I'm gonna miss you Nin you are my favorite poster in this thread hopefully we can play together again. I really hope you are mafia b/c tomorrow is going to be a shutdown trying to explain how there's two vigilante. Hopefully Nin flips scum and we can go from there. Hitting a scam with my bullet is the dream.
I'm gonna miss you Nin you are my favorite poster in this thread hopefully we can play together again. I really hope you are mafia b/c tomorrow is going to be a shutdown trying to explain how there's two vigilante. Hopefully Nin flips scum and we can go from there. Hitting a scam with my bullet is the dream.
Sorry I haven't been as active this day phase, got an ear infection that is affecting my concentration really badly which is exactly the last thing I need right now.
I definitely still think we should lunch Nin, but the Kingshot I'm still not sure on.
I'm not as suspicious of Vincent as I was, so my next suspicion would fall to LP. So my kingvote goes to LP
If nin is eliminated and they aren't a miller though and actually were town, then my kingvote goes to MrHedin
I definitely still think we should lunch Nin, but the Kingshot I'm still not sure on.
I'm not as suspicious of Vincent as I was, so my next suspicion would fall to LP. So my kingvote goes to LP
If nin is eliminated and they aren't a miller though and actually were town, then my kingvote goes to MrHedin
That makes no sense, nin himself said he is a miller, why wouldn't he be one if he flips town?
You know, I said before and I will say again, that when I started on this journey I did so with an abiding faith in Town and their ability, our ability, to join together to find Scum.
It was met sometimes with skepticism and doubt. Some folks didn't think I could pull it off. There were those who felt that i was lying.
And yet, all of you came together,Trying to vote me down. And scum knocked on other players and made phone calls, and they talked to your parents who didn't know how to pronounce nin. And yet, once you started talking to each other , it turned out that you had something in common.
you were all wrong about me
And the audience took notice. And throughout, it was infused with a sense of hope. And earlier. it wasn't blind optimism that drove me to do all this work. It wasn't naïveté. It wasn't willful ignorance to all the challenges that Town faces. It was hope in the face of difficulty, hope in the face of uncertainty.
You proved the power of hope.
I hope you all can still pull this off.
For -- For all of you who have just done amazing, remarkable work. SalvaPot . most of it unheralded, most of it without fanfare, most of it without you getting any word of thanks, we i could not be prouder of you. I could not be prouder. This has been the privilege of my life, and I know I speak for nin 4.0 as well.
And you know, I look forward to continuing this mafia journey with you; and I can't wait to see what you do next.
And I promise you, I'll be right here with you.
All right?
God bless you. Thank you, everybody.
Yes I did. Yes I can.
God bless nin.
Eurgh your right, that part made total sense in my head but now it doesn't at all. Just ignore that part.
My line of thinking was if nin was actually town and it wasn't a false red flag then Hedin would be lying, but as you said that makes little sense if nin said they were miller themselves. Dumb thinking on my part
Time to stir the pot.....
Could have the cop's investigation have been redirected? Could the red check have happened not where we thought?
Could have the cop's investigation have been redirected? Could the red check have happened not where we thought?
Could have but come on Vincent.
I am a miller. Ofc i am going to turn out Mafia
The problem with that theory is that nin, again, confirmed the red check with his miller claim. Regardless of nin's flip, it doesn't contradict's Mr.'s check.
One more thing.
This post looks just bad. I mean if you would have followed the thread and put in 1 and 1 together you would have gotten to a better conclusion.
Tinfoil hat here, but I think VA is trying to soft claim here? It's a weird post for sure.
Nah. Busy as hell, barely here. Trying to throw shit out since we all seem kinda done with today. I'm not changing my vote on Nin.
Ah. Good point. I just googled what the hell Miller even meant. Welp. Sorry, Nin.
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==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start
nin (4 votes)
MrHedin - #1,357
Vincent Alexander - #1,375
Hagi - #1,435
Kalor - #1,444 #1,610
Aeleus - #1,482 #1,486
Stantastic - #1,712
Hagi (1 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #1,355
Vincent Alexander - #1,366 #1,375
nin - #1,420 #1,424
SalvaPot (1 votes)
Fanto - #1,347
TheChuggernaut (1 votes)
Kalor - #1,610
Vincent Alexander (0 votes)
Stantastic - #1,378 #1,712
jman1954goat (0 votes)
Stove - #1,365 #1,591
Lone_Prodigy (0 votes)
Fanto - #1,336 #1,347
Not voting: Reki, Lone_Prodigy, jman1954goat, nin, Aeleus, SalvaPot, Razmos, Stove
Post Counts:
nin: 80 jman1954goat: 53 Stantastic: 38 Fanto: 33 Aeleus: 31 Razmos: 29 TheChuggernaut: 28 Hagi: 25 Vincent Alexander: 25 SalvaPot: 21 Lone_Prodigy: 19 Reki: 17 MrHedin: 14 Kalor: 11 Stove: 6
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
nin (4 votes)
MrHedin - #1,357
Vincent Alexander - #1,375
Hagi - #1,435
Stantastic - #1,712
Hagi (1 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #1,355
SalvaPot (1 votes)
Fanto - #1,347
TheChuggernaut (1 votes)
Kalor - #1,610
Vincent Alexander (0 votes)
jman1954goat (0 votes)
Lone_Prodigy (0 votes)
Not voting: Reki, Lone_Prodigy, jman1954goat, nin, Aeleus, SalvaPot, Razmos, Stove
Post Counts:
nin: 80 jman1954goat: 53 Stantastic: 38 Fanto: 33 Aeleus: 31 Razmos: 29 TheChuggernaut: 28 Hagi: 25 Vincent Alexander: 25 SalvaPot: 21 Lone_Prodigy: 19 Reki: 17 MrHedin: 14 Kalor: 11 Stove: 6
Current Countdown:
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Could probably shoot Kalor too. His posts over the past few hours were just done to get to the minimum.
Leaving work soon so just codifying this as I didn't have time this afternoon to go back through the thread and parse my thoughts between LP and Salva so I'm just going to leave it with my first impressions here. So for posterity
nin!scum - LP
nin!town - Hagi
Chuggs got in my head with this:
I kind of agree. Curious what others thought about this line of reasoning?
I kind of agree. Curious what others thought about this line of reasoning?
I'm posting when I can. Not trying deliberately trying to scrap by with the bare minimum.
King voting
Hagi (2)
nin (#1420)
TheChuggernaut (#1593)
SalvaPot (2)
Fanto (#1671)
jman1954goat (#1674)
Lone_Prodigy (1)
Fanto (#1589)
Stantastic (#1710)
Vincent Alexander (1)
Hagi (#1587)
Don't tell him who to shoot (1)
SalvaPot (#1636)
Don't shoot (1)
Lone_Prodigy (#1694)
Mafia!nin voting
Lone_Prodigy (3)
Fanto (#1588)
SalvaPot (#1779)
MrHedin (#1782)
SalvaPot (2)
Aeleus (#1748)
Reki (#1784)
Hagi (1)
TheChuggernaut (#1698)
Town!nin voting
Hagi (6)
nin (#1564)
MrHedin (#1611)
Lone_Prodigy (#1665)
TheChuggernaut (#1698)
SalvaPot (#1779)
MrHedin (#1782)
Lone_Prodigy (1)
Fanto (#1588)
TheChuggernaut (1)
Aeleus (#1748)
Don't shoot (1)
Reki (#1784)
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I couldn't complete my re-read, but as pointed out above;
- If Mafia!nin; SalvaPot. Not for the points he brought up recently - which can be read as reasonable town concern - but rather because he'll be a constant talking point until we solve the slot.
- If Town!nin; shoot no one, we can't afford a mess tonight.
Could you please decide for counting reasons? Thanks.
What I did was voting for No shot if nin flips town. Considering no one claimed the extra D1 NK, if we have another double-kill night and we add a third one with whoever jman shots that'd be brutal if all three are town. It's unlikely but I'm getting wary of a mess this night and, as LP pointed out, there're a bunch of potential targets. jman could take a shot next night or we could just discuss and vote out whoever we wanted to shot tonight anyways.
This all comes from my idea that Town!nin would led more credence to a Mafia!jman scenario, so yeah, I don't really want him shooting in that case. If that was true, jman could just go all "Oh geez a Bus Driver probably redirected my shot." if Hagi was one of his mates, or just shot him withouth being held accountable for that if he is town.
If Mafia though, we have a bit more space to afford the shot tonight.
Hagi (2)
nin (#1420)
TheChuggernaut (#1593)
SalvaPot (2)
Fanto (#1671)
jman1954goat (#1674)
Lone_Prodigy (1)
Stantastic (#1710)
Vincent Alexander (1)
Hagi (#1587)
Don't tell him who to shoot (1)
SalvaPot (#1636)
Don't shoot (1)
Lone_Prodigy (#1694)
Mafia!nin voting
Lone_Prodigy (3)
Fanto (#1588)
SalvaPot (#1779)
MrHedin (#1782)
SalvaPot (2)
Aeleus (#1748)
Reki (#1784)
Hagi (1)
TheChuggernaut (#1698)
Town!nin voting
Hagi (6)
nin (#1564)
MrHedin (#1611)
Lone_Prodigy (#1665)
TheChuggernaut (#1698)
SalvaPot (#1779)
MrHedin (#1782)
Lone_Prodigy (1)
Fanto (#1588)
TheChuggernaut (1)
Aeleus (#1748)
Don't shoot (1)
Reki (#1784)
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I couldn't complete my re-read, but as pointed out above;
- If Mafia!nin; SalvaPot. Not for the points he brought up recently - which can be read as reasonable town concern - but rather because he'll be a constant talking point until we solve the slot.
- If Town!nin; shoot no one, we can't afford a mess tonight.
Could you please decide for counting reasons? Thanks.
What I did was voting for No shot if nin flips town. Considering no one claimed the extra D1 NK, if we have another double-kill night and we add a third one with whoever jman shots that'd be brutal if all three are town. It's unlikely but I'm getting wary of a mess this night and, as LP pointed out, there're a bunch of potential targets. jman could take a shot next night or we could just discuss and vote out whoever we wanted to shot tonight anyways.
This all comes from my idea that Town!nin would led more credence to a Mafia!jman scenario, so yeah, I don't really want him shooting in that case. If that was true, jman could just go all "Oh geez a Bus Driver probably redirected my shot." if Hagi was one of his mates, or just shot him withouth being held accountable for that if he is town.
If Mafia though, we have a bit more space to afford the shot tonight.
if we do have a bus driver who is town hopefully mrhedin is swapped with someone random to keep them safe
My internet is playing up, meant to be a reply to previous post, as in shoot LP if Nin flips town.
By the way
Vote: nin
Up to #1794;
King voting
Hagi (2)
nin (#1420)
TheChuggernaut (#1593)
SalvaPot (2)
Fanto (#1671)
jman1954goat (#1674)
Lone_Prodigy (1)
Fanto (#1589)
Stantastic (#1710)
Vincent Alexander (1)
Hagi (#1587)
Don't tell him who to shoot (1)
SalvaPot (#1636)
Don't shoot (1)
Lone_Prodigy (#1694)
Mafia!nin voting
SalvaPot (4)
Aeleus (#1748)
Reki (#1785)
Lone_Prodigy (#1786)
Fanto (#1789)
Lone_Prodigy (3)
Fanto (#1588)
SalvaPot (#1779)
MrHedin (#1782)
Hagi (1)
TheChuggernaut (#1698)
Town!nin voting
Hagi (5)
nin (#1564)
MrHedin (#1611)
Lone_Prodigy (#1665)
TheChuggernaut (#1698)
SalvaPot (#1779)
MrHedin (#1782)
Don't shoot (2)
Reki (#1785)
Lone_Prodigy (#1786)
Lone_Prodigy (2)
Fanto (#1588)
Aeleus (#1790)
SalvaPot (1)
Fanto (#1789)
Vote: nin
Up to #1794;
King voting
Hagi (2)
nin (#1420)
TheChuggernaut (#1593)
SalvaPot (2)
Fanto (#1671)
jman1954goat (#1674)
Lone_Prodigy (1)
Stantastic (#1710)
Vincent Alexander (1)
Hagi (#1587)
Don't tell him who to shoot (1)
SalvaPot (#1636)
Don't shoot (1)
Lone_Prodigy (#1694)
Mafia!nin voting
SalvaPot (4)
Aeleus (#1748)
Reki (#1785)
Lone_Prodigy (#1786)
Fanto (#1789)
Lone_Prodigy (3)
Fanto (#1588)
SalvaPot (#1779)
MrHedin (#1782)
Hagi (1)
TheChuggernaut (#1698)
Town!nin voting
Hagi (5)
nin (#1564)
MrHedin (#1611)
TheChuggernaut (#1698)
SalvaPot (#1779)
MrHedin (#1782)
Don't shoot (2)
Reki (#1785)
Lone_Prodigy (#1786)
Lone_Prodigy (2)
Fanto (#1588)
Aeleus (#1790)
SalvaPot (1)
Fanto (#1789)
Wait that's not what I meant oops
jman1954goat if Nin flips town -> Chuggernaut
If Nin flips scum -> LP
jman1954goat if Nin flips town -> Chuggernaut
If Nin flips scum -> LP
Day 3 Ends
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