One thousand United States dollarsHow much is this damn console going to be. I'm not paying anything outrageous.
One thousand United States dollarsHow much is this damn console going to be. I'm not paying anything outrageous.
It's going to becan you even begin to imagine what ND can pull with this kind of power?
It is 7nm. Navi and Zen 2 are 7nm.
We getting a quiet PS5 fam!
You will be completely fine with 6c/12t on Intel CPU for next gen unless you are aiming at 100fps+ then it could become a bottleneck.
Screw ND (well, not really!) I wanna see Kratos's beard get even more glorious the next game! Just imagine the facial hair follicle glory that next-gen models will present!!can you even begin to imagine what ND can pull with this kind of power?
Nah screw Kratos. I need to see every individual thread on Spidey's suitScrew ND (well, not really!) I wanna see Kratos's beard get even more glorious the next game! Just imagine the facial hair follicle glory that next-gen models will present!!
I've 'scanned' this topic and didn't see it, if its been asked 50 times I apologize :) - What is the theoretical PC GPU/CPU combo that this is most likely to perform like. I wan't to see how badly my kids' PC's are gonna get thwacked in the next two years. (I built them both their own budget gaming g4560/1050ti/16GB Ram about 2.5 years ago - and they've been EXCELLENT performers)
I also want PS5 DVR to support 60fps. We survived an entire generation of 30fps-only videos.Hey everyone, I have a question that occured to me today: will PS5 enable us to capture video from HDR games without altering the colour tones? Currently if you click the share button and capture video of a HDR game, it outputs it with very saturated colours as a result.
CPU performance-wise PS5's 8C/16T might be more or less like Ryzen 5 3600 due to being clocked lower. Which means about ~3.5-4x more powerful than Pentium G4560.I've 'scanned' this topic and didn't see it, if its been asked 50 times I apologize :) - What is the theoretical PC GPU/CPU combo that this is most likely to perform like. I wan't to see how badly my kids' PC's are gonna get thwacked in the next two years. (I built them both their own budget gaming g4560/1050ti/16GB Ram about 2.5 years ago - and they've been EXCELLENT performers)
As of now, we don't know. Perhaps they'll talk about it next year during the full reveal.Hey everyone, I have a question that occured to me today: will PS5 enable us to capture video from HDR games without altering the colour tones? Currently if you click the share button and capture video of a HDR game, it outputs it with very saturated colours as a result.
Nope. Hard disagree. There's profit to be made with midgen upgrades.With this... yep, one version of PS5 for the entire generation is pretty well given now ( of course slim version mid gen but no pro ).
False. 3500X is a Zen 2 based CPU and does not have SMT enabled (6C/6T). So not all Zen 2 CPUs come with multithreading enabled.AMD CPUs follow a multi-thread approach. Anyone with a little bit of hardware knowledge would have zero doubts that PS5's Zen 2 CPU would not feature multi-threading.
Nope. Hard disagree. There's profit to be made with midgen upgrades.
"Mid to late gen console will eclipse this performance profile." - this need to stop, it didnt happen last gen, it didnt happen this gen, it wont happen next gen with exception to games that will require raytracing hw, then you'll need a gpu with raytracing acceration to keep up.Ryzen 5 8/16 - thats not accurate as PS5 CPU will be underclocked, 6/12 Ryzen configurations will be enough for parity
NVIDIA 2070 (Maybe Super) - i dont think GPU will be as strong, but will see
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This is of course if you want to match performance at launch. Mid to late gen console will eclipse this performance profile.
I think it will be enough for all games to be played in 60fps. Remember that consoles wont use all threads for games and will be underclocked as AMD CPU, which generally wins by having way overclocked CPU in comparison to Intel. Also on PC you have more control over games settings, so you can decrease some CPU intensive settings to achieve stable 60fps.It will be enough for playing games at the same (or slightly better) framerate as the console versions.
Games that are 30 fps on console will probably not run at 60 fps though (some might, but not all).
Hey everyone, I have a question that occured to me today: will PS5 enable us to capture video from HDR games without altering the colour tones? Currently if you click the share button and capture video of a HDR game, it outputs it with very saturated colours as a result.
CPU performance-wise PS5's 8C/16T might be more or less like Ryzen 5 3600 due to being clocked lower. Which means about ~3.5-4x more powerful than Pentium G4560.
GPU performance-wise PS5 might be more or less close to 5700XT with the ability to perform ray-tracing. This would also mean roughly close to ~3.5x more powerful than GTX 1050 Ti.
This is good. You want to allocate different jobs running on the CPU to different cores. Think of it like building a house not with one person who have to do all the jobs (electricity, painting, laying bricks, roofing, etc.) but with eight people. Now threads of a CPU – aren't really "physical" like a person – but are for organizing things; with 16 threads think of it like each of those eight people have two piles of resources they take from to build that house. Instead of one, relatively unorganized pile, e.g. for the painter who has his paint, his tools, his drawings in one single bucket and have to rummage around in, he has two buckets, so he can work more efficiently. In reality certain threads aren't tied to certain cores, but just for this image I made it so.
"Mid to late gen console will eclipse this performance profile." - this need to stop, it didnt happen last gen, it didnt happen this gen, it wont happen next gen with exception to games that will require raytracing hw, then you'll need a gpu with raytracing acceration to keep up.
They already leaked everything!!! 8core 16threads zen2 is huge... what kind of MEGATON they're gonna have for the reveal conference?
Actual game demonstrations and hardware with full specs?They already leaked everything!!! 8core 16threads zen2 is huge... what kind of MEGATON they're gonna have for the reveal conference?
There are performance tests of console like specs in modern games, look it up on yt. Same goes for last gen.I don't think that's true. I could be wrong, but is there a PC with the same RAM and VRAM as the XBOX 360 playing games like Bioshock and Assassin's Creed?
This gen is a bit of an anomaly because Jaguar CPUs werent even really a thing in discrete desktops. Is a game like RDR2 playable on 2013 console equivalent GPUs?
I just hope that my R5 2600 + 1070 can hold 1080p60 for next gen titles...
You're not going to get that on the PS5. Gonna be some way underspecced cousin.For people complaining about $499 price point - the retail price of 8C/16T Zen 2 is $349 on Amazon right now. That's just the CPU.
Nope. After the success of Pro and XBX, a PS5 Pro is now 100% guaranteed. I'd say maybe with 3nm EUV node once it's widely available.With this... yep, one version of PS5 for the entire generation is pretty well given now ( of course slim version mid gen but no pro ).
Not of the same generation of gpu as the one in PS4, but an R9 290x (from October 2013) is well above the published minimum required spec for RDR2. An HD 7850 (a close match for the PS4's GPU) likely will not be playable (maybe with minimum everything at the lowest resolution if a 2GB 7850 was being used)I don't think that's true. I could be wrong, but is there a PC with the same RAM and VRAM as the XBOX 360 playing games like Bioshock and Assassin's Creed?
This gen is a bit of an anomaly because Jaguar CPUs werent even really a thing in discrete desktops. Is a game like RDR2 playable on 2013 console equivalent GPUs?
I mean something like 8GB ultra fast memory announcement for PS4! 🤔
Type of memory and controller gimmicksI mean something like 8GB ultra fast memory announcement for PS4! 🤔
Well, they've not said anything about memory yet.I mean something like 8GB ultra fast memory announcement for PS4! 🤔
All I need to know is if it will let me play FFXIV. Then Day 1. All those extra sweet cores will let me walk through cities above 30fps!
I dont think people with 8700k in their machines have to worry one bit. It will probably push 100fps+ in next gen games if the gpu can keep up =)
I wouldn't say it's 100%. Those models were just this gens Kinect/EyeToy/Wii Motion Plus, meant to extend the gen longer.Nope. After the success of Pro and XBX, a PS5 Pro is now 100% guaranteed. I'd say maybe with 3nm EUV node once it's widely available.
With this... yep, one version of PS5 for the entire generation is pretty well given now ( of course slim version mid gen but no pro ).
I think it will be enough for all games to be played in 60fps. Remember that consoles wont use all threads for games and will be underclocked as AMD CPU, which generally wins by having way overclocked CPU in comparison to Intel. Also on PC you have more control over games settings, so you can decrease some CPU intensive settings to achieve stable 60fps.
I wouldn't say it's 100%. Those models were just this gens Kinect/EyeToy/Wii Motion Plus, meant to extend the gen longer.
The launch PS5 will already support 8K, even if it's upscaled, so what buzz marketing terms can a PS5 Pro even add in 2023?
I don't think "it's even better 4K than the PS5 which was even better 4K than the PS4 Pro" is going to do wel marketing wise.
And PS4 Pro/1X have 4K as a marketing point and they still sell to 20% of buyers. For PS4, yeah that's maybe 3-5M per year, Xbox less.
I'd personally rather they focus on price and make a big 8K push in 2026+
I think it's a bad assumption to say they can't price it under $500. Even if your cost info is true, it wouldn't be the first time a console maker sells a system at a loss. And I would argue that Sony needs to be under $500 to repeat the success of the PS4.yep, $499 incoming. there is absolutely no way it will be sold cheaper, because even at $499, they will take a loss.
PS: I am fine with that BTW
The launch PS5 will already support 8K, even if it's upscaled, so what buzz marketing terms can a PS5 Pro even add in 2023?
Thanks - was thinking about the same thing. How much more powerful would it be than the PS4 and PS4 pro respectively?CPU performance-wise PS5's 8C/16T might be more or less like Ryzen 5 3600 due to being clocked lower. Which means about ~3.5-4x more powerful than Pentium G4560.
GPU performance-wise PS5 might be more or less close to 5700XT with the ability to perform ray-tracing. This would also mean roughly close to ~3.5x more powerful than GTX 1050 Ti.