The difference is that XGP offers games from all publishers while EA Access is limited to just EA published titles. XGP is simply never coming to a PlayStation console unless just like EA Access it's limited to just Xbox Game Studios published titles, as long as it offers titles from all publishers it's direct competitor of Sony's own PlayStation Now.
I think people take what Booty had said too literally. He said:
That sounds pretty flexible, it could be 14 months, it could be 28 months, who knows? In addition, I'm sure some games after the two year period will still be cross-gen just because they can so why not (for instance if Double Fine makes a smaller indy-like game in 2024, why not release it on the older consoles too?)? We are taking these comments too much at face value, it's not like he said it on Nov 21st so now it applies to every game coming out until Nov 21st, 2021.
Ok, i don't know the process behind a patent, why this latency between the fill and the grant ?
Also, applicant can expand/change the patent as the time goes by, which causes more delays.
Guys, new Cerny patent for Backward Compatibility. Granted 15 January 2020.
Backward compatibility through use of spoof clock and fine grain frequency control
US Patent for Backward compatibility through use of spoof clock and fine grain frequency control Patent (Patent # 10,534,395 issued January 14, 2020) - Justia Patents Search
An application runs at a first operating frequency if the application is designed for a current version of a system and runs at a second operating frequency if the application is designed for a prior version of the system that operates at a lower frequency than the first operating frequency. The...patents.justia.com
Sometimes patents will change from application to granted, will be updated with innocuous text, appear in different countries' databases, or even have the text copied mostly with a different title.
Why wouldn't they? 1-2 years from November 2019 is November 2021, so worst case scenario is XSX exclusives at the end of 2021, likely earlier or even at launch after all.
I'd rather we didn't have fictitious mod alt-accounts spreading bullshit on here personally.
There is a lot to chew on here. Had not read this one but Anex says it's old.Guys, new Cerny patent for Backward Compatibility. Granted 15 January 2020.
Backward compatibility through use of spoof clock and fine grain frequency control
US Patent for Backward compatibility through use of spoof clock and fine grain frequency control Patent (Patent # 10,534,395 issued January 14, 2020) - Justia Patents Search
An application runs at a first operating frequency if the application is designed for a current version of a system and runs at a second operating frequency if the application is designed for a prior version of the system that operates at a lower frequency than the first operating frequency. The...
But can it fit in console box?!? :)
According to this thread all you need to do is cut some L3, under-volt it and you've got a 40mm^2 part that's using 15W :)
Nah, just making a joke about how we like taking ten leaps of reason in order to make a point :)
Putting a hard date on it would be stupid. It'll obviously depend on adoption rate of the new hardware, they'll have target figures in mind by certain dates. If it starts out as a mid-gen refresh claiming "next gen" and sells as well as xb1x, than that year or two is going to be extended.
Doubt. The game would already have to be underway as an exclusive right now if it were to ship 20 months from now as one. It's 10 months before the console goes on sale, an Q3/4 exclusive would be going gold late Q2-Q3 when the machine would have been on sale 1 year or less. xb1 sold around 9 million after the first calendar year, I can't see a console with zero exclusives and a high MSRP matching that figure, it'll be somewhere between that and xb1x sales.
That's not what Matt Booty said though. He said over the next 1 or 2 years in November 2019 so that's at most 1 year of the new gen. It is reasonable to infer that he's talking about porting current games to next gen with better visuals (Forza Horizon 4 ultra 4k@60 as an example).
November 2019Matt Booty said:
I think Game Pass and PlayStation Now are two really different services. PlayStation Now allow people to play some old games everywhere and to download some of them. Streaming is the core concept of it.
I don't see the difference between a game sold (on which Sony has 30% of the revenue) and a game available in a subscription service (Sony would have 30% of the revenue of this subscription fee).
If xCloud is available on every TV, I don't see why they would need to be include on PlayStation. The same isn't true for Xbox Game Pass (games can be download).
People who subscribe to Xbox Game Pass do it mostly for games published by Microsoft. I don't know if it would be viable without third party games, but in the future it could be.
We can conclude that the purpose of the patent is finalized and working ?
MS isn't going to decide which game is XSX exclusive and which is cross-gen months before the game comes out. MS already knows right now all of their game portfolio until at least 2022, they know what is exclusive to XSX and what is cross-gen. It doesn't matter if XSX sells 4 million units in its first year or 20 million, that's not the type of decision you make last minute or even a year before a game launches. For instance, Hellblade 2 which just started development according to MS, is probably XSX only.
That's exactly what I said. You don't make those decisions that close to release. If you believe FH5 is SX exclusive a yearish after launch, it must be in development right now as an exclusive if it's to take advantage of the hardware in a meaningful and non-trivial way. Given the vagueness of the comment by Booty, I don't think they were making those kinds of decisions already a year or more ago.
Again, I never said they did in terms of such releases. But it will dictate the tipping point. Hellblade 2, a marquee game pushed as being something next gen that has only just begun development, that's obviously exclusive regardless of sales or anythign else, and likely ready some time in 2023. What I'm saying about numbers though is it will depend on sales meeting targets as to when they flip the switch entirely. There's no arbitrary point in mind, hence the vague mention of year/years. People expecting exclusives to begin dropping on the one year anniversary and xb1 finally being left behind are not going to be in for good news. SX and whatever Lockhart ends up being (and whenever it ends up releasing) would have to do massive numbers to bring that date forward given Microsoft's seemingly generationless stance.
Nah, I'm expecting to be happy enough with what I'll get within a year of the PS5's launch.
I could see it working if they left access to the streaming app behind a PlayStation Now subscription. And same on Xbox, give access to PlayStation Now app only if you have an Xcloud sub. No way they would to that either, but it could work financially that way.
