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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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Maybe they'd make it so MachineGames makes games with fun gameplay.
Their pc support is abysmal and none of their big games supported on PC, death stranding is not 1st party and even that is releasing almost a year later on PC, goes to show you how committed they are.
Anyway Im not here to derail the thread, just want to be clear, Sony acquiring studios is bad news for pc players and not something to be happy about.
Lmao, you ethered that boy, I mean owned. This is a gaming forum.
Bluepoint would be the logical choice but not sure I can super excited about a remake studio getting acquired.
Supermassive Games keeps popping up in potential lists and I just realized that Supermassive Games is not Supergiant Games and now I'm way less excited about that possibility...
Supermassive Games keeps popping up in potential lists and I just realized that Supermassive Games is not Supergiant Games and now I'm way less excited about that possibility...
Nope, but it's expected. Sony has always kept their IP pretty close. Like I said, slowly but surely they've been releasing their IP on that platform through other publishers/developers.
Death Stranding is 1st party and it is being released on PC through another publisher.
Besides, when Sony acquires a studio they usually don't have a history of releasing games on PC; however, lets just assume that Zenimax is the target... I suspect Sony will have them continue to support the PC platform. I wouldn't worry about it much.
I'm really not having a go at the man or his job role but rather the usage of 'content' in the modern age. Like on YouTube where video makers are 'content creators' rather than filmmakers or essayists or tutorial makers or animators or indeed propagandists, specific terminology that better describes the work.
Usage of the word 'franchise' to describe a series of creative endeavours like games and films irks me similarly, but I'm going off topic here.
But as you work in the industry I'll defer to you on this.
What's the expected new buzzword that'll be thrown around in the reveals? Content/experience has run its course. what else is there in the thesaurus?
For tech, ray tracing maybe. Machine learning has potential but has its time in the spotlight already passed?
For tech, ray tracing maybe. Machine learning has potential but has its time in the spotlight already passed?
I like how you listed every Sony game on PC. But added etc at the end for some reason.
All good stuff coming this year:
All of those are SIE intellectual property (except Heavy Rain).
That's because SIE is funding other "lower profile" projects that have or are coming to PC (ie: ReadySet Heroes, Predator: Hunting Grounds).
You forgot content creators as an overused buzzword.
I feel like all the buzzwords relating to gaming have used and we will see more repeats.
Unlike most reconstruction methods, DLSS actually creates new pixels. You wouldn't get new details in the reconstruction methods currently used in consoles.
Is DLSS something that a developer needs to implement or does it need to be suported bij GPU/Console?
Either, in that a dev could do it themselves with their own trained neural network(s) on commodity hardware, if they want to put aside the frametime budget for it. However if a hardware or platform vendor provided the neural network, a library for it, or even accelerator hardware, it would probably make implementation and runtime performance easier. Performance requirements I'm hazy on, maybe you'd want some kind of helper hardware to make it generally feasible, at least for a naive implementation.
Here's an excellent video from Guerrilla Games about how they used the GPU to dynamically place all the objects in the world of Horizon Zero Dawn.
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This allowed them to have much more freedom with designing the big chunks of the world (ie mountains, streams etc) as they didn't need to run some form of baking process to add the trees/rock/other 'dressing' elements - much faster iteration for the designers.
What is interesting to me is that this is what shipped - the GPU places the objects in the world as the player moves around - instead of having a static world that is defined ahead of time - obviously there's some serious programming chops going on to get it to fit into the frametimes they were after.
GPU-Based Run-Time Procedural Placement in Horizon: Zero Dawn
In this 2017 GDC session, Guerrilla Games' Jaap van Muijden describes the GPU-based procedural placement system that dynamically creates the world of Horizon...
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This allowed them to have much more freedom with designing the big chunks of the world (ie mountains, streams etc) as they didn't need to run some form of baking process to add the trees/rock/other 'dressing' elements - much faster iteration for the designers.
What is interesting to me is that this is what shipped - the GPU places the objects in the world as the player moves around - instead of having a static world that is defined ahead of time - obviously there's some serious programming chops going on to get it to fit into the frametimes they were after.
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AFAIK, For DLSS NVIDIA trains the networks for the developers. We don't know how much GPU budget it will take considering that on the RTX series it runs using the Tensor cores which are completely free because currently DLSS is the only job they have. It's a big question mark, training neural networks will probably require third party help (like gofreak had suggested, maybe a platform holder or a third-party service) and we don't know what kind of load it creates on the GPU.
IMO the best use for neural networks in the coming next-gen will be animation.
Death Stranding isn't first party, what are you talking about?
I'm tired of speculation and theories. So so tired. Please Sony and Microsoft dad. Please give me more information.
There is no way in hell Sony chose to make MLB multi-platform. MLB themselves insisted on it or Sony would have lost the license.
More like 2nd party. Sony funded the development of the game, but now it's also coming to PC under a different publisher. It's a 2nd party bordering on 3rd party.
Sony funded and assisted in the development of the game. Death Stranding is also a trademark of Sony Interactive Entertainment. Interesting how that's borderline 3rd party.
It doesn't. Death Stranding is just an example of Sony using their IP to support the PC space which was the original conversation. It was in reference to the rumors of Sony acquiring a studio that currently supports PC and then suddenly stop.
I guess it could be argued if its 1st party or whatever.
I don't think that's how business works..... This has been refuted over and over again. A trial business entities do no operate like forum members. They consider the long term implications.
1.) Sony MLB contract was never exclusive. They were simply the best at it and no other dev could hang.
2.) Layden long ago I donated they were looking at diversity and GAAS.
3.) The Show has some of the highest ROI on microtransactions.
4.) Now why would MLB strong Sony their only revenue source for a baseball game? I know the the perception of some type of or else situation fits the forum narrative but that's that the case .
5.) The press release states multi-year. What more likely happened was a negotiation to take it multi- plat with a reduction in overall licensing fees at the offset of increased revenue for all. A win-win.
6.) Who really knows....
I really enjoyed it and I think I played the full game quite late on in the gen, I'd already played the separate DLC thing. It's a nice old school game in the sense that it's quite linear in terms of story and there's only ever a handful of things you can go off and do. It feels manageable and actually fun. The traversal, especially neon is just insanely cool and fun to use, even after several hours. You can actually complete in a sensible human timescale. I approach modern huge open world games now and feel overwhelmed and soon give up (hello RDR2). I would love to see an Infamous Third Son (lol).
If it's Sony supporting the PC space with Death Stranding and not Kojima's doing, why aren't Sony publishing it themselves?
Who knows? Sony hasn't published any PC games using their IP recently. I guess they don't have a publishing arm for that or don't do it for reasons unknown.
I don't think MLB had much negotiating leverage over Sony. Companies aren't exactly jumping at the chance to make a mlb game.
Again what I said is correct, none of those games are from Sony's firts party studios. And of those games, 2 developers of the 3 no longer make exclusive games for Sony.
You're right. Looks to be published under PlayStation Mobile, Inc. on Steam; however, Sony shuttered that operation in 2015, but according to Steam there are other games published under PlayStation Mobile after that year.
True; however, in context Sony is allowing their IP to make it to PC which to me indicates a form of support in that space.
Sony won't release any if their big exclusive first party titles on PC and no death stranding doesn't count its not a studio owned by Sony, probably Kojima forced them to.
Hence them acquiring new studios is awful news, why are people happy about this? Just beyond me
Im actually more interested in microsoft first party studios than sony at this point.
Hence them acquiring new studios is awful news, why are people happy about this? Just beyond me
Im actually more interested in microsoft first party studios than sony at this point.
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