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Dr. Monkey

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I don't feel like I have enough about him to really work with yet. But I'm not comfortable with the FEP train, and I'm in a perfect position to switch votes around and try to shake things up.
I'm gonna work through this possibility because why not, shit is quiet. Could be he is; we all gotta roll it sometime, and he's out here posting more than usual. Would he do that as scum? Or would he try to be quieter, since probably no one's going to expect much?

So I dunno, maybe it's a possibility. Then we look at people he's mentioned, I guess, if he is, since he hasn't voted or anything but he's name-dropped a few people, so weak ties to others so far. But maybe he'll come give you some spicy retorts.
 

Dr. Monkey

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I'm going to a department thing, but will be back long before day end. I wonder what'll happen if I:

vote: Sorian
 

Sorian

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I mean sure, are we going to keep pretending that Sparks doesn't name drop me on a daily basis in and out of games?
 

Brazil

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I'm going to a department thing, but will be back long before day end. I wonder what'll happen if I:

vote: Sorian
I don't like pushing for you on D1 at all, but I'm weirded out by your reaction to my vote on Sparkster - actually, by my unvote from you -, followed by this.

It felt somewhat like you were caught off-guard by my unvote, but now that you're a little bit in the clear, you feel safe to throw your vote around.
 

Brazil

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I guess I'll just spend my last hour and a half dancing then

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turmoil7

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Monkey changing her vote often even though she was/is in the lead of the vote makes me fiendlier to the idea of her being a doubtful townie, although her switch away from OJ may had been a preemtive deescalation of a thunderdome between the two(they were tied at 3 at the time)

I can believe that she is OK with lynching OJ or rac so far, that could come in handy in the future, let see how far this sorian thing goes

VOTE: Sorian
 

Brazil

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Monkey changing her vote often even though she was/is in the lead of the vote makes me fiendlier to the idea of her being a doubtful townie, although her switch away from OJ may had been a preemtive deescalation of a thunderdome between the two(they were tied at 3 at the time)

I can believe that she is OK with lynching OJ or rac so far, that could come in handy in the future, let see how far this sorian thing goes

VOTE: Sorian
Interesting.

She could also be trying to throw other candidates at the wall to see what sticks, though.
 

Sorian

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So two votes of "let's try this weird thing just cause"

Not much I can say to that.
 

Dr. Monkey

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I'm always interested in seeing reactions to votes. That the thread is this dead with a little more than an hour to go is of great concern to me. I haven't been in a low activity game in a while. Forgot how much they annoy me.
 

Dr. Monkey

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So two votes of "let's try this weird thing just cause"

Not much I can say to that.
The only thing you've done that gives me pause is putting up some actual reads. The rest of it feels very scattershot - spread some suspicion around, shut down some discussion, be a presence everywhere. Making yourself useful. These feel like scum Sorian moves.

Of course if I get you munched and you're town, probably I die tomorrow. That's what I have to weigh. I'm not generally too fussed about getting lynched but it would be an easy push for scum to make and people would likely just slurp it right up and that's blatant path to a loss. So I have to decide if I scum read you enough and if it's worth it to be wrong.

I'm not certain yet. For the record. #waffletown
 

Sorian

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The only thing you've done that gives me pause is putting up some actual reads. The rest of it feels very scattershot - spread some suspicion around, shut down some discussion, be a presence everywhere. Making yourself useful. These feel like scum Sorian moves.

Of course if I get you munched and you're town, probably I die tomorrow. That's what I have to weigh. I'm not generally too fussed about getting lynched but it would be an easy push for scum to make and people would likely just slurp it right up and that's blatant path to a loss. So I have to decide if I scum read you enough and if it's worth it to be wrong.

I'm not certain yet. For the record. #waffletown

My suspicion has been pretty focused this back half of the day. The whole shutting down discussion thing is such a weird point that you and Gorlak want to stick on considering the "discussion" was fluff.

The worst part of this post is that you seem more worried about your reputation than your vote.
 

Lone_Prodigy

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Why would we nail you to the wall for being wrong on Day 1? You wouldn't be the only one with blood on your hands.
 

turmoil7

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D1 is don't get lynched and try to get the person you want to lynch lynched, the don't get lynched part doesn't seem to be going as flawlessly as I expected, but just letting Brazil sit on his Monkey vote was more useful to the get her lynched idea, had I questioned it he could had gone "OK, I got reactions out of this vote, now let's move on to the next lucky player", so I didn't
 

Natiko

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The only thing you've done that gives me pause is putting up some actual reads. The rest of it feels very scattershot - spread some suspicion around, shut down some discussion, be a presence everywhere. Making yourself useful. These feel like scum Sorian moves.

Of course if I get you munched and you're town, probably I die tomorrow. That's what I have to weigh. I'm not generally too fussed about getting lynched but it would be an easy push for scum to make and people would likely just slurp it right up and that's blatant path to a loss. So I have to decide if I scum read you enough and if it's worth it to be wrong.

I'm not certain yet. For the record. #waffletown
If Sorian is scum and wants to prevent his scummate(s) from discussing mechanics as it can be an easy way to get scum read, why do you think he says it in this thread instead of in the scum chat? Why would he shut down an avenue that he could protect his team from while using it to get sick scum reads on townies?
 

Dr. Monkey

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If Sorian is scum and wants to prevent his scummate(s) from discussing mechanics as it can be an easy way to get scum read, why do you think he says it in this thread instead of in the scum chat? Why would he shut down an avenue that he could protect his team from while using it to get sick scum reads on townies?

Sorian working like a sheepdog on discussion, setting boundaries and nipping strays, is one of the ways he makes himself look useful.
 

Natiko

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How in the world is FEP leading in votes?

VOTE: Oliver James

Sorian working like a sheepdog on discussion, setting boundaries and nipping strays, is one of the ways he makes himself look useful.
So you believe he never would have said this as town? Because personally I feel like I've played with town Sorian far more than scum and he does this same thing in those games.
 

Pedro

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==== CURRENT VOTES ====
Day Start

flatearthpandas (3 votes)
luxcommander - #191
oliver james - #253
gorlak - #270

oliver james (2 votes)
flatearthpandas - #197
dr. monkey - #238 #255
natiko - #375

sorian (2 votes)
dr. monkey - #86 #136
oliver james - #100 #139
dr. monkey - #352
turmoil7 - #357

turmoil7 (2 votes)
sorian - #145 #262
stanleypalmtree - #251
rac - #361

rac (1 votes)
dr. monkey - #255 #305
sorian - #262

comrade sparkster (1 votes)
brazil - #343

dr. monkey (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #87 #357
brazil - #168 #343
lone_prodigy - #221

melonrabbit (0 votes)
luxcommander - #129 #191

lone_prodigy (0 votes)
rac - #295 #361

gorlak (0 votes)
dr. monkey - #136 #178

lone prodigy (0 votes)
rac - #276 #295

luxcommander (0 votes)
brazil - #83 #168

Post Counts:
dr. monkey: 51 sorian: 42 brazil: 34 oliver james: 26 gorlak: 24 rac: 16 luxcommander: 16 comrade sparkster: 15 turmoil7: 14 lone_prodigy: 12 flatearthpandas: 12 natiko: 11 stanleypalmtree: 10 melonrabbit: 9 fireblend: 3 pedro: 1

Click here to go to the Vote Tool!

edit: thanks for the headsup, Natiko
 

Natiko

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Actually scratch that, it's counting melon's vote so that did me no good.

VOTE: turmoil7
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm back.

Oliver should not be lynched. Forget his supposed "defensiveness". Look at what he softed, damn it.

This is in no way a breadcrumb towards knowing or not knowing more than that.
 

turmoil7

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I don't really think that FEP or OJ are scum, OJ more than FEP, will vote FEP if it comes to self defense and I can chose between them

The massclaim thing can be just bad townie move
 

Brazil

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We have many low-activity players in here, so I'm close to drawing a blank on most players right now. Still, since I'm in this position, I might as well give out my early opinions on everyone.

Not interested in a flip right now:
flatearthpandas - I feel good about him. He's posted reads, asked questions, and has been pretty forthcoming with his opinions. I don't see any benefit to scum advocating for a mass-claim that will never happen.
Sorian - He's being the reasonable voice he always seems to be. I like to think I'd be able to recognize him as scum as the phases go by (and I haven't so far), but I'm not sure. The one thing that felt a little out of character was his annoyance at the early votes on him, which I made note of because he generally keeps his cool.
StanleyPalmtree - Upon a reread, he seems concise, but on-point. I need to see more of him, but my current impression is favorable.

I feel iffy on:
Oliver James - His play during this phase wasn't good. He felt evasive and defensive. Some of his posts give me a townie vibe, but that type of impression only goes so far.
LuxCommander - As Stan pointed out at some point, Lux felt a bit artificial at the beginning. His later posts give me a similar vibe to those of OJ's, however.
rac - I probably won't vote there as I'd hate to lynch him on D1 twice in a row, but his early play was bad. Once called out, though, he showed up and started being more active, which I appreciate.

Wouldn't mind flipping:
Comrade Sparkster - This is my first time playing with him. A lot of one-line posts, but not a lot of substance. Someone needs to squeeze stuff out of him in future phases.
Lone_Prodigy - He's been more participative than usual for D1, which... actually makes me more wary of him.
Gorlak - Gorlak is always helpful and thorough, but I don't like his FEP vote, and I don't like how long it stayed there.
turmoil7 - I don't see the early "let's follow Brazil" reasoning as outrageous as some seemed to deem it, but the way he fizzled out on that idea felt a bit weird. He was defending it up until a certain point, but was apparently satisfied with letting it die out when other players dropped the subject.

Scum-reading:
Dr. Monkey - I think she overreacted a bit to the turmoil7 thing in the beginning, and her reaction to my unvote from her weirded me out. I don't feel good about her.
melonrabbit/Natiko - I don't feel very good about them. melon was in the lower end of the activity spectrum, and didn't really get any pressure on her.

There are no infallible reads to be found in this post at all.
 

turmoil7

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Heads up: Melon's vote for OJ is still counted by the vote tool(Pedro's count here in the thread is fixed)

I'm telling because I seriously confused me for some seconds
 

Dr. Monkey

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Between turmoil and feps, I'd vote turmoil, but I'd rather see OJ gone. Not particularly interested in a rac flip any longer, mostly to see how he plays d2.
 

Sorian

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I'd rather see turmoil > OJ > FEP

That said, turmoil is good but I'd rather have a data point on L_P/rac
 
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Holy shit, I woke up on time. Kind of.

Furthermore: that's all you get from Oliver to that point?
You keep talking like there's something more to be gleaned.

Hush now, child, I will protect you from the evils of the night

Blame the RNGod :P
Is this a monologue or something

Thank you for sharing your gift of music to the rest of the world :)

Too bad I can't give back tangibly tonight if something bad ever happens to you
You mean one of the above contradictory posts? I guess I am missing something. Want to illuminate things, Gorlak?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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You've got 2 hints in these quotes, fep

Alright, since no one seems to share my view... His last play I remember was in Berserk. He was mason and breadcrumb it pretty blatant to everyone. Apart from that he was more in the background and was similarly to here I'd say.

I do not think scum Oliver would drop those lines.
 

Dr. Monkey

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You've got 2 hints in these quotes, fep

Alright, since no one seems to share my view... His last play I remember was in Berserk. He was mason and breadcrumb it pretty blatant to everyone. Apart from that he was more in the background and was similarly to here I'd say.

I do not think scum Oliver would drop those lines.
Don't let meta blind you to his bullshit.
 

Sorian

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Sorian going on and on about how fep vote is trash, without actually giving a reason, makes me want to see the flip more.

For someone posting so much, you don't read a lot of the thread do you? I've already said that scum doesn't call for a mass claim in our meta, they certainly don't double down on it either and FEP knows that.
 
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